Pedal geeks i need u (help jjjusten make decisions about awesome pedals for his store)

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lol xpost. yes! hope it's a long and beautiful partnership. M1k3 is a great guy. N1c and H0w4rd, too.

One thing missing from that list imo is the Naga Viper. People misunderstand the "treble booster" but the Viper kinda perfects the rangemaster and if you put one in front of a DLS anyone who digs a thick, greasy, saturated tone will get it immediately.

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

ill prob get a naga viper on this order (it was right on the cusp) but if not, it will def make the next one

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

Just never demo it into a clean amp :)

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

haha oh yeah, i know the drill

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

not a fan

― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what didn't you like about it? i think it's pretty tasty on guitar + vox tbh! i have to be v careful when running synths through it, i tend to do a reverse DI to get into to it, responds much better that way.

i mean, ~BRAGGIN~ i've got the space echo re201, a couple of 70s eventide units and an echoplex (now broken wahh) and while it doesn't sound like any of those it's got it's own thing going on and i really like it!

Crackle Box, Thursday, 7 February 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

sorry, should have been more clear. i'm sure it's a rad echobox, just longstanding general wampler beef that's probably should have been water under the bridge a long time ago

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

didn't intend to poop on your new pedal day, btw. i hadn't clicked the link, just saw JJ's reference to wampler and shot from the hip.

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

hey, btw, anyone tried the carl martin compressor? i have a customer thats interested in one, and i want to tell him that $270 for a comp is str8 up crazytown, but i dont want to totally dismiss it w/o hearing it.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

isn't the Carl Martin Compressor one of CM Punk's finishing moves

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

Wampler should partner with Disney/Lucasfilm and come out with a Wampler Wampa that sounds like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQzo6YpVbcs

Not really up their alley though.

how's life, Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

i also in a only semi-related note prob need to find a decent way to start doing online sales now that im the only dude selling half of these pedal lines in the midwest. anybody have any experience with that stuff, prob talking abt less than 500-1000 skus i imagine.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

The truly great thing about this pedal is that it’s not only Telecaster style guitars that it works so well with, it brings the best out of your Strat or anything you may have loaded with humbuckers.

Love this description from Wampler's website.

how's life, Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

Carl Martin stuff sounds good but also runs at strange wattages and have their own built-in AC cables. I tried using their pre-amp and it sounded great on its own but was noisy when interacting with other stuff. I'm not sure if it's the same thing with the Compressor; website says it runs at 2.8 watts. A friend of mine uses a Quattro and the compressor sounds very good but there are maaany more obvious, cheaper options

dry rub come save beef (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

i have a list of my fav pedal manufactures somewhere but i can't seem to find it, from the top of my head:

http://www.fredric.co.uk/ - north london hand made stuff, well nice

http://sitorisonics.com/ - again, hand made, tested, quality stuff

http://zvex.com/ - do lots of interesting things i haven't seen elsewhere

http://deathbyaudio.net/ - uh, yeh more nice stuff

Crackle Box, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:08 (eleven years ago) link

i am officially out of control, just added these to the mix:

http://www.henrettaengineering.com/Henretta_Engineering/Products.html

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

I like that all the controls are inside. I want to set up a great sound and leave it there and not have to worry about knocking something out of place.

how's life, Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

I should actually learn how to reliably play my guitar before I start buying these things, right

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, it's really clever imo, and he seems to have geared his build choices to stuff where that makes kind of obvious sense (both boosts, and the compressor) or more and more sense the more you think about it (fixed sensitivity on the filter, fixed volume on the octave up, and fixed speed on the tremolo). the only one that gives me a little pause is the fuzz, but whoa it is a badass sounding fuzz, so i cant really complain, esp since it's a set gain w/volume and presence controls inside.

xpost hah tell that to half my customers

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

wait no dont

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/31897_461315193934134_1389551036_n.jpg

quarter, pick, and mxr for size reference. so tiny!

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

Just had a terrible idea to make pedals shaped like bento boxes. You could tweak a piece of sushi for depth or a brocolli for rate.

how's life, Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

cf www.danarmstrongeffects.com

Dan each fx added makes u a better player by 1 belt level. FACT.

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, there are def clear dan armstrong antecedents to this stuff (esp the orange whip/orange squeezer) but having heard the da stuff, this has the advantage of being way lower noise, and in the case of the comp just plain sounding better. plus hey, i get to give money to a dude that lives in the same city as me

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

totally! dig the notion of booteeky armstrong boxes.

note to self: reading/posting from phone makes me sound like a crusty killjoy itt :(

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

i should post some gut shots, these things are beautiful inside - dude appears to be an EE by day, which explains a whole lot imo. just popped open the clean boost and there is a 10 way dipswitch row that allows you to have it buffered or non buffered, and engages 2 trim pots that adjust bass and treble cut and boost, plus a third trimmer for output level

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

lol you're gonna run outta room in there.

this has me wanting a choad blaster (demo toward the end):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pvkrI4cUpPk

arby's, Friday, 22 February 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i am on the verge of either buying another showcase or building some sort of 100 foot wall mounted shelf. at last count i had 273 pedals in stock.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

haha and 40 on backorder what the hell is wrong with me

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

walk away from the pedals, jjj

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Friday, 22 February 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

NEVER

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

jjj you ever think about zvex? they are local, my friend hannah handpaints them. coolest looking pedals ever

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

did not know z'vex were local

arby's, Friday, 22 February 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

i have srs problems w/the pricing on zvex stuff and (no offense to your friend) kind of a knee jerk negative reaction to the whole handpainted pedal thing. Screenprints on pedals can look super cool, why you gotta make it a l33t one of a kind artisnal blah blah imo.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

like the super duper 2 in 1 is a pair of stacked clean boosts in a pedal for over $300. thats fucking crazy! component parts in that would run you about oh (and i am being very kind here and assuming that you are not buying in bulk) $45?

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

hey geekz I need u on what should be a pretty simple matter - I have fun with the 5.6 or so seconds of looping my DD-6 allows but am annoyed by its limitations, so I'm looking for a loop pedal that'll let me do loops of a few bars, add loops and delete loops and have loops come in and out of the mix, yknow the kinds of things the layman like me would imagine a loop pedal for solo performance to do. What's the best and more importantly cheapest thing for fulfilling these functions? (I'd be using it mostly for guitar and keyboard but possibly also whatever else comes to mind.)

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 February 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

removing loops adds considerably to the cost - i am a fan of the new eh 45 looper, but once you buy it and a footswitch, yer talking abt $600 USD

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.ehx.com/products/45000_

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 22 February 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

eep. i imagined that being able to remove loops would be the tough part...

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 23 February 2013 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

Lemme dig a little deeper before I ruin your day

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

What you're describing, Merdeyeux, is pretty complicated and specific only to the EH 45 (or their discontinued and awesome 2880) and the Boss RC-50. You can do something similar with a Boss RC-30 though! I think it has one step of undo/redo and two mono channels with sliders.

i hold the kwok and you hold the kee (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link

The RC-30 is generally pretty well priced for what it does, it has some superfluous "lo fi" functions and stuff. There's a Digitech one, the Stereo Jamman, that is OK too, but it's got those noisy "true bypass" style switches that are frustrating for long periods of loop practice

i hold the kwok and you hold the kee (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah this is actually a fairly reliable source of info, who would've thought

http://looperpedalreviews.com/

i hold the kwok and you hold the kee (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, thanks a lot. (What I'm basically looking for is to imitate what you do live, except cheaper and with a millionth of the musical ability, so your specific advice is v much appreciated.) Thinking about it I imagine the RC-30 (or maybe even the RC-20XL, it seems) could more or less do what I have in mind, and much of my desire to have elements drop in and out is probably more a desire to actually play as little as possible so I minimise the chance of fucking up as much as possible. On that matter, I guess I could just become a better musician.

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 February 2013 00:27 (eleven years ago) link

RC-20XL is such a good entry point. The reason there were so many loopy acts 2002-2005 was that pedal. Once you figure it out and gain some performative ability w/it you'll have a better idea of what feature set would best suit you.

i hold the kwok and you hold the kee (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 24 February 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

alright, I'll do it!

hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 24 February 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

well some more stuff came in - got the Earthquaker Hoof Reaper fuzz in (Hoff + Reaper + Octave in one admittedly large box) and man, i know it's hard to swallow the idea that a modern production fuzz box could be worth $295 but this one might be it.

also added another pedal line (yeah I know) but it is a small line and Minnesota based.

http://www.ramblefx.com/

He hasn't gotten a Ranier in here yet, and is sort of pondering whther to continue with that model or work on something new, but the dual tone bender is cool as shit, and the Plexi pre thing called the Marvel Drive is just plain outstanding. $150 for the bender, $140 for the marvel, which seems pretty reasonable to me.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

jesus at this point i should probably just list the pedal brands i stock so people can ask abt shit if they want to, they're sort of sprinkled all through this thread at this point

mxr
way huge
dunlop
electro harmonix
idiotbox
noisemaker
earthquaker
stalefish effects
henretta engineering
danelectrlol
visual sound
valco
ibanez
build your own clone kits
bbe

coming soon:
grind customs out of canada
the hayden/ashdown doctor green stuff
secret things i can't talk about yet

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

oh and a shitload of vintage stuff

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

jjj what's the best vintage fuzz sound you have? (fuzz like the on Stones' Satisfaction)

i see boy george has lost some weight (brownie), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

I am a huge fan of the Mosrite Fuzzrite (sold the one we had already), that crazy ass honey fresh sounds crying baby fuzz we had in a while ago (the one that turned into the super fuzz eventually) and the foxx tone machine. but shit they cost craptons of money - if you don't want to kill yourself for $$$, def check out the catalinbread merkin fuzz, or honestly, maybe the ramble fx tone bender i listed up there.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 February 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link


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