Is Eric Clapton a racist?

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sorry, that "joke" may have been worse than a pre-distressed fender guitar.

mbvgz (how's life), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

Road Worn®

mbvgz (how's life), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

"Relic'd"

mbvgz (how's life), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

haha dont even get me started on these guitars

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

JJJUSTEN DON'T YOU DARE QUESTION THE POWER OF "LACE SENSORS"

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

i'm suing

brownie, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

he's racist against good guitar playing

ron paulstretch (crüt), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Experts at companies such as Gibson, Fender and Martin have meticulously replicated some of Eric Clapton's best known guitars. (...) In a collection of three videos, Mr Clapton talks about the Fender Eric Clapton "Brownie" Tribute Stratocaster, the Gibson Harrison-Clapton "Lucy" Les Paul, and the Martin "Crossroads" Eric Clapton Signature acoustic.

http://www.sonicstate.com/amped/2013/02/05/eric-clapton-crossroads-guitar-retail-collection-preview/

ugh...

"Did you see the sign on my car park that said 'Dead King Storage'?" (snoball), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

There's a bit in the first video where Clapton is explaining that he used to buy second hand Strats that had a lot of wear on the fretboard, because they'd been played a lot, but the 'wear' on the tribute Strat isn't because someone's been playing it, it's because it's been gone over with a belt sander and £%£"$£IFJFI$I£$"£$%£$ arrgh...

"Did you see the sign on my car park that said 'Dead King Storage'?" (snoball), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

so merzbow has played them then

pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

Documentary on BBC2 right now, Eric Clapton: a life in 12 bars
which seems to be new?
Anyway he expresses the first substantial regret for his comments in this, that I've heard. At around 42 minutes the film addresses the Powell controversy and EC says that he when made the Powell comments he was becoming "fascistic" and "a semi-racist, which doesn't make sense as so many of my friends were black I championed black music".... " I hated everything". He, and the filmmakers, put it in the context of his chronic alcoholism and suicidal ideation. I mean, that's plausible, but if so why hasn't he made apologetic comments for his beahviour before now? He' been clean for years, right? Betetr late than never, I suppose.

Anyway, i hold no particular candle for the guy, he's been musically worthless for like 40 years, but I love the guy who made the Cream records and Layla and other Love songs, so I feel a little less bad about liking those records at least.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 30 June 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

Shame?

albvivertine, Saturday, 30 June 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

maybe that guy in north carolina who claims "god is a racist" got confused and was just thinking about clapton

in any case, eric, apology accepted. now if only the 100 million or so racists in america would follow suit...

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link

As recently as 2004 Clapton called Enoch Powell “outrageously brave,” so this recent expression of regret strikes me as complete horseshit.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link

Ok that's kinda disgusting.

albvivertine, Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

As recently as 2004 Clapton called Enoch Powell “outrageously brave,” so this recent expression of regret strikes me as complete horseshit.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 July 2018 00:10 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Exactly. Though, like I say, it's worth seeing this bit in the doc, because he does use the "f word" about himself, which seems to the furthest he's ever gone in admitting it.

glumdalclitch, Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

i wouldn't say "complete horseshit", i'd just say "disingenuous". i'm not with fascist alcoholics anonymous, i could demand a fearless moral inventory from him but you know what, i'll settle for "i was wrong because i was a self-loathing drunk", even if his excuse lacks persuasive power. as far as these things go, i'll take "i was wrong because" where i won't take "i was wrong but".

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

otm

Jang Mo Jib (Ross), Saturday, 30 June 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I saw this documentary last night - hadn't seen it before and it does seem to be pretty new (it came out last year, apparently) - the guy seemed to have had mental health issues from the off, really - and of course when the trappings of success couldn't prevent him from being unhappy, he drank and drugged his way to as close to oblivion as he could. Sad, really. There was footage of him drinking and doing coke in the mid '70s and the guy just looks like a sad mess.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

I like his stuff with the Yardbirds, Cream, Blind Faith and Derek and the Dominos. Basically all the stuff before the smack addiction, alcoholism and bizarre behaviour.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:11 (five years ago) link

I quite like that solo album from the alcoholic years, the one with the address in the title.

Anyway, his is not a pretty past but its not like he's Morrissey.

dorsalstop, Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

I like his stuff with the Yardbirds, Cream, Blind Faith and Derek and the Dominos. Basically all the stuff before the smack addiction, alcoholism and bizarre behaviour.

This was all recorded during the smack addiction and alcoholism, no?

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 1 July 2018 14:52 (five years ago) link

Well, Ginger Baker was definitely on smack during Cream/Blind Faith, but for Clapton the harder drugs began to creep in during the Layla sessions, but it blew up into full-blown addiction circa '71. He spent a couple of years hiding away and doing smack, and when he came back he'd replaced smack with alcohol.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 1 July 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link

Eric Clapton: a life in 12 bars is most excellent.

I thought he was a quite dreadful human being before watching this but it has made me reasess. I now think he is a really dreadful human being.

stirmonster, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

I wonder if this is the documentary that a friend of mine was working on. FWIW he said Clapton was a boring cunt.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 2 July 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

That doesn't surprise me at all!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 2 July 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

I can only think that someone who could make a bad maudlin hit single about his bairn flying out of high rise flat window is a fucking psychopath tbh.

calzino, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

otm

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 July 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

I dunno, I can understand a musician using music to help them get over their grief...

...spending several years obsessively trying to pick up your friends wife, though...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 06:56 (five years ago) link

I saw this doc last night. Pattie Boyd: I mean it's obvious but wowza.

Sam Weller, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 07:39 (five years ago) link

It was a good watch, whatever you think of the man.

millmeister, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 08:45 (five years ago) link

i enjoy Hitler documentaries

Meunier tear has to fall (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 08:55 (five years ago) link

at least he didn't murder music

calzino, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:11 (five years ago) link

although he almost did murder Django Reinhardt, but that is another conversation.

calzino, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:14 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Mostly old news peppered with some excessive both sides BS, but details Clapton’s history of self-serving bigotry and prejudice and goes into some fresh details about how he’s been actively supporting anti-vax activists:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/eric-clapton-vaccine-lockdown-racist-comments-1239027/

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 11 October 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link

Came here to post that, too. It's mostly old news, yeah, but by running round-up stories like this every 10 years or so younger people get to hear it for the first time, in a sense inoculating themselves against this guy and his mostly worthless music.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 October 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link

would have assumed young ppl run no risk of getting into Eric Clapton either way but I guess Greta Von Fleet have young fans so

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 11 October 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

Clapton's legacy is mixed. I have found that deputies mostly like him, whereas he is not as popular among sheriffs.

Extinct Namibian shrub genus: Var. (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 October 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

Republican governors love him tho.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 11 October 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

Also, the luxury rehab industry.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 October 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

when he dies his tombstone will be forbidden to visit for those who are vaccinated.

years later, guards will talk about how weird it is that they've never had to enforce this rule.

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

when he dies his tombstone will be forbidden to visit for those who are vaccinated.

I briefly read this as "when he dies his *trombone* will be ..." etc., and thought it was a meta joke that by the time he dies he will have been so forgotten that no one can even remember what instrument he played.

RIP, Eric Clapton, trombone great.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 October 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

it's in the way that you use it

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

iirc his nickname was "slowbone"

Extinct Namibian shrub genus: Var. (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

ask Patti

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 October 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

if Connor Clapton had grown up today, his dad would still get to write Tears in Heaven

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

I like to believe Clapton died somewhere in 1976, but was kept alive through infusions of racist propaganda and far-right conspiracy theories, resulting in the creature that has been infecting us with pseudoscience for the past year or so.

Lone Wanderer Mark II, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

Too bad Clapton didn't join the "27 Club" instead of Hendrix. The world would've been a whole lot better with that swap.

birdistheword, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

we'd have never gotten "Change the World" or his "I Shot the Sheriff" cover!

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link


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