GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

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I thought it was a great episode. Great in that it didn't center around Hannah and allowed the other characters to continue being fleshed out, not only did it show it was worth following them as well, but it gave you a little break from Hannah, while letting her be great comic relief.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

anything that reps for mary mccarthy is good as far as i'm concerned. woefully underappreciated writer. but sort of on a different level entirely than everyone else mentioned, i thought.

s.clover, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

Read The Group a couple of years ago and loved it.

jaymc, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar also has views

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

lol

will always be my favorite athlete

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

wow

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

we should all be intently listening to voices of the next generation, hearing what they have to say and, when they are struggling to say it, help them to articulate better

this is an incredibly generous thing for someone to say

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

He'll never make it as a critic

Moodles, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

lmao @ 'set of gay entourage'

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

I was just saying the other night that the thing that strikes (and annoys) me most about this show is how damn dramatic every single person and thing is. I mean I remember being 25 and I don't ever remember it being like that. It's tiring just to watch! I'm not really fighter though. I don't know.

― go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, February 4, 2013 3:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah I feel like, half the scenes feel like they were written for a high school drama class

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

Hannah grabbing the cake and eating it by herself during the dinner party argument was great

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

seems to be a running gag whenever she's gonna be in a emotionally tense situation, cf a few episodes ago where she's just eating cool whip from a tub

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

anyway I'm glad that they made jessa likeable, also ray gives me strong david schwimmer vibes idk

乒乓, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

yeah exactly, I felt like :/ for laughing at first but now that it's a thing it's kinda funny the moments when she does it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

she should make a funny face and say "ack!" too when she does it.

s.clover, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 03:58 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like ray has been kinda defanged in this season, i am psyched that next week he is back at work & so can perhaps be portrayed as his unimpressable snarky self.

this episode was so good, anyway. like i am still sorta bugged that it's made the shift to chronicling relationship drama over just engagement with the world & jobs & being outside near other humans &c but the last three scenes, jessa & the guy arguing, shoshanna & ray being all syrupy & having the you don't have any interests conversation & then jessa convincingly crying, they were all so affecting. i feel like it's made a slight detour into ~brooklyn humour~, like the website editor who tells hannah to go do coke, or the pretentious conceptual artist or the artisinal mustard thing, like all of these feel like slightly generic inside baseball tangents to take, to me, but this ep managed to be really affecting anyway.

schlump, Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Artisinal Mustard could be a Portlandia skit.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

validated by the accolades line but yeah i feel like that kinda thing is sorta voguish stereotypical generica

schlump, Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

this ep is p classic

johnny crunch, Monday, 11 February 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

heavy 'louie' vibes

johnny crunch, Monday, 11 February 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

ok, that was fantastic

emilys., Monday, 11 February 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, wow

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Monday, 11 February 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

that was great.
so happy to see she was the writer at the end.
definitely the one to show to people who think Girls is all hype and no heart.

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 February 2013 06:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah how I felt. Also definitely the one to show anyone who thinks Lena Dunham isn't being reflective or lacks insight into her weird characters and their up-fuckedness.

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Monday, 11 February 2013 06:19 (eleven years ago) link

not so be super crepey but up until now i've kinda found her unattractive but this somehow clicked through.
also a good reminder to never ever ever have sex with women under the age of thirty ever again. that bird has flown.

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 February 2013 06:22 (eleven years ago) link

We've just watched all of the first season and caught up with what's been shown of season 2 thus far (except last night's episode) in about the last week. Can't quite decide if everyone in it is a douchebag or just misunderstood and conflicted. Suspect the latter. Thoroughly enjoying it, but we've not really got anywhere since Generation X, have we?

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 11 February 2013 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

this season has actually been exceptional

the show is turning into something else entirely lately and i am digging the fuck out of it

monotony, Monday, 11 February 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

That was like a perfect dream/fantasy sequence including walking out of her job.

Canaille help you (Michael White), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

glad to see Adam back next week.

ω (carne asada), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

i love her, and i love this ep

i just quietly wish she would stop wearing those terrible ugly romper shorts/matching tops

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 February 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

^

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 February 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

It's amazingly effective costuming, though. Funny how she looked a zillion times better in his sweater, huh?

Canaille help you (Michael White), Monday, 11 February 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, that was really the highlight of the whole ep -- just the shot of her lounging with the newspaper and dressed in grown-up clothes.

found her freakout too excruciating to watch.

dude clearly was more interested in humoring her than engaging with her from the start though.

s.clover, Monday, 11 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

also a good reminder to never ever ever have sex with women under the age of thirty ever again.

that's a pretty gross take-away imo.

Anyway, this episode got to me. She blasts him for not revealing about himself, when, in the beginning of the episode, for a dude of his type, he actually gave her quite a lot of data, especially considering the way she showed up. I love how she didn't get the details quite right, and the way he quietly counters "san diego." Also, the Josh/Joshua thing. The way she flicks her tongue when he first says it, and she uses it against him later.

Her emotions in the episode and her batshit way of expressing them are so otm to me. She looks gorgeous, too. I have always liked her small-titted mermaid body, and here I think the nudity actually serves a purpose of showing the character in this kind of simply happy, unarmed state.

The way she comments on the "fixtures" and how everything is nice in the house, even the lemonade glass, seemed gross at first, but I realized I have had the same inner monologues...And yeah, the romper was wack, but I can see being a certain age and not really grasping how to dress for it--it suited the character. I don't know, I kind of love Hannah.

emilys., Tuesday, 12 February 2013 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

it def showed a lot more of inner hannah than I realized, in a really good way

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

the Josh/Joshua thing was straight out of Friends

Number None, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

every generation gets the Friends it deserves

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

was definitely feeling that monologue about happiness & loneliness p heavily

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

s/o to myself, btw

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

that's a pretty gross take-away imo.

hardly the only takeaway but ymmv. i'm closer to forty than thirty these days btw
and yeah the "i want to be happy" line was a kick to the heart

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link

I've read that Dunham tries on the show's outfits with shapewear but eschews it on set so that it won't fit quite right, which is a nice touch.

blatherskite, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link

i know this is slightly off-topic but I can't get over how big that shower was

also hannah looked so lovely all tattooed and naked on the big white bed that next morning

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

http://jezebel.com/5983437/what-kind-of-guy-does-a-girl-who-looks-like-lena-dunham-deserve

but yeah i couldn't understand or relate to the 'i want to be happy' monologue at all, or even sort of process it as a thing someone would say. like even for someone without filters, you need to be without filters to just spill all that out.

s.clover, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

I have a friend from college who is a writerly type and all the stuff lena/hannah says about wanting to experience it all just to be able to write about them ... is that some platitude they teach in creative writing classes

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:51 (eleven years ago) link

dedicate this to the ep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nXoiG12-8g

乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

it's funny i think there's a particularly ungenerous way to interpret this episode along the lines of sorta classic Romantic notion of the artist as having to leaving behind ordinary happiness and pursue the intensity of feeling for art's sake (that even this happiness literally suffocates her)....but then there's this other layer sorta making fun of Hannah for the banality of what she imagines happiness to be.

ryan, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link

to be clear im not accusing LD of buying into that Romantic notion, but examining it.

ryan, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

oh no i think happiness is probably just about that banal. i thought i was more making fun of her for the banality of what she imagines art to be.

s.clover, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

haha you're probably right (on both counts).

ryan, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:07 (eleven years ago) link

well she wants ALL the stuff

it was very clear that it's a sarcastic song (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

Okay an episode like that (and really the last one) is where my comparison of this show to Workaholics falls apart hah.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:51 (eleven years ago) link


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