GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

well in my neighborhood on weekend nights there's hordes of young hipsters wandering around between bars doing god knows what, otherwise…cloudy?

fair assessment

I was just saying the other night that the thing that strikes (and annoys) me most about this show is how damn dramatic every single person and thing is. I mean I remember being 25 and I don't ever remember it being like that. It's tiring just to watch! I'm not really fighter though. I don't know.

I stopped trying to watch it through a lens of 'oh this is being 25' becuase that made me v depressed and angry and confused--- I just enjoy it for the weird comedy and funny lines and occasional nice moments between characters

Eh, found this ep a bit whiny -- they're starting to seem more like moodswingy late teens than 20somethings. Groffin Dunne was A+ though

Not the first time Griffin's taken a gander at the wild side on New York City.

Griffin Dunne was excellent

Marnie seemed to enjoy texting her friend that she just had sex much more than the actual sex.

Very true-to-life IME

I was just saying the other night that the thing that strikes (and annoys) me most about this show is how damn dramatic every single person and thing is. I mean I remember being 25 and I don't ever remember it being like that. It's tiring just to watch! I'm not really fighter though. I don't know.

― go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, February 4, 2013 3:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i heard next episode she peruses ilx all day then goes to sleep, feeling slightly desecrated

I loved the hell out of this ep

Based on a lot of the criticisms in this thread, I think maybe you need to be well into your late 30s/early 40s to enjoy this show on an emotionally distant level or something. I mean for me it's p much HA HA IDIOT HOLY SHIT I THINK I DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT ONCE type of level of enjoyment. If I was 10 years younger, I'm sure I'd hate this and the characters would remind me of dickheads/ex-girlfriends/whatever I'd run into from my not-so-distant past.

Or maybe I was just a crappy person at that age, too.... who knows

the bit in this last episode about "andrew andrew" was amazing

also i didn't realize that booth jonathan was dude from lonely island wtf, they somehow made him incredibly attractive? and he has a great ass, thank you based lena dunham

booth jonahtan is a hilarious character btw

i find that lena is really good at lampooning self-involved art scene people like booth jonathan or "andrew andrew" (or even the editor of jazzhate) but not really so good at lampooning the average brooklyn resident (i.e. her or any of the core characters, except maybe marnie, i think she's a good character)

Andrew Andrew are real it turns out?

cannot tell from yr posts if you know that or not apologies

oh lol no shit... "they're ipad DJs/brand consultants" had me rolling. still funny in any event.

no i had no idea

http://www.andrewandrewdotcom.com

so i see

hannah = jerry
marnie = elaine
shosh = george
jessa = kramer

think about it

Last time I saw Andrew Andrew they were using a Novation Twitch controller with a Macbook Air.

But they shot to fame, if I remember correctly, throwing the first iPod DJ parties at APT. The idea of a party where people can bring their iPods and play music was so novel there were articles about it in the New York Times. Or maybe it was the Village Voice. I don't remember, but they are very real.

Andrew andrew are actually very hot shit in nyc

http://newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/02/11/130211crte_television_nussbaum

Hm - the NYRB article is "pretty much the only essay on the show worth reading" [apart from the Atlantic article I filched my only good point from a few paragraphs ago]

Coates' was a brief thing, no? Either way I agree that dismissing all writing save one essay is dumb. She knows better. Still, I liked the article.

I don't generally like Nussbaum's writing, but "Hannah Barbaric" is a funny headline.

Andrew Andrew were a "big deal" when Electroclash happened!

are her mustards not receiving enough accolades

― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:15 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Loved this line. The show is so good at creating laugh-out-loud moments in the middle of really fraught, combative scenes. And not even to defuse the tension, necessarily. People just say ridiculous things when they're arguing.

that line might have been most i've "identified" w this show so far (i am 25)

Also the noodles are so hard to cook line was nicely tossed off

i wonder how many times i've said (i am 25) in this thread

Hannah grabbing the cake and eating it by herself during the dinner party argument was great

I thought it was a great episode. Great in that it didn't center around Hannah and allowed the other characters to continue being fleshed out, not only did it show it was worth following them as well, but it gave you a little break from Hannah, while letting her be great comic relief.

anything that reps for mary mccarthy is good as far as i'm concerned. woefully underappreciated writer. but sort of on a different level entirely than everyone else mentioned, i thought.

Read The Group a couple of years ago and loved it.

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar also has views

lol

will always be my favorite athlete

wow

we should all be intently listening to voices of the next generation, hearing what they have to say and, when they are struggling to say it, help them to articulate better

this is an incredibly generous thing for someone to say

He'll never make it as a critic

lmao @ 'set of gay entourage'

I was just saying the other night that the thing that strikes (and annoys) me most about this show is how damn dramatic every single person and thing is. I mean I remember being 25 and I don't ever remember it being like that. It's tiring just to watch! I'm not really fighter though. I don't know.

― go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, February 4, 2013 3:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah I feel like, half the scenes feel like they were written for a high school drama class

Hannah grabbing the cake and eating it by herself during the dinner party argument was great

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

seems to be a running gag whenever she's gonna be in a emotionally tense situation, cf a few episodes ago where she's just eating cool whip from a tub

anyway I'm glad that they made jessa likeable, also ray gives me strong david schwimmer vibes idk

yeah exactly, I felt like :/ for laughing at first but now that it's a thing it's kinda funny the moments when she does it

she should make a funny face and say "ack!" too when she does it.

i feel like ray has been kinda defanged in this season, i am psyched that next week he is back at work & so can perhaps be portrayed as his unimpressable snarky self.

this episode was so good, anyway. like i am still sorta bugged that it's made the shift to chronicling relationship drama over just engagement with the world & jobs & being outside near other humans &c but the last three scenes, jessa & the guy arguing, shoshanna & ray being all syrupy & having the you don't have any interests conversation & then jessa convincingly crying, they were all so affecting. i feel like it's made a slight detour into ~brooklyn humour~, like the website editor who tells hannah to go do coke, or the pretentious conceptual artist or the artisinal mustard thing, like all of these feel like slightly generic inside baseball tangents to take, to me, but this ep managed to be really affecting anyway.

Artisinal Mustard could be a Portlandia skit.