GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

enbb otm re the bathtub

all my golden girls moments with my friends have been in bathtubs. it's TOTALLY a thing we do.

Ok, I agree with you guys that it was gratuitous, but I have had female friendships where there was that kind of nbd intimacy. I liked it just in that it was a moment of two girls being totally comfortable around each other & also it showed Hannah actually being kind for a change.

Uh why are you sitting in this TV thing? Your character seems to have sense wtf are you doing with this idiot? You are being fired right now.

…?

oh right tv thing

At first i took that Damien Hirst line as evidence she knew what she was talking about but apparently it's just something she knows to say in order to flirt with artists.

Sorry, i skipped 3 and 4 and am just catching up w them. Don't how much more I'll be watching this show. I'm sure there are plenty of shows of transgressive 20-something girls doing coke and dancing at a club. Cool that these characters are finding themselves and going thru trials and tribulations and stuff but maybe i am just too old for this show. It definitely sums up LIVING THROUGH YOUR 20s in that it's full of seemingly momentous exploratory stuff that really doesn't mean anything and that realization very very very slowly dawning on you.

xpost emilys: oh the moment itself, emotionally, was totally otm. it was just funny to me that it was in a bathtub.

Marnie seemed to enjoy texting her friend that she just had sex much more than the actual sex.

Eh, the next episode. This show is like watching people punch themselves.

Yeah isn't it great?

No, I'm so glad I'm not in my 20s anymore.

This show is like, if i really still wanted to go out and hang out and make the scene and get involved in everyone's drama, and then have all these stories that i really don't care about illustrated visually. I'm sure if you are 25 or something, this show is like THE ZEITGEIST or something, but for me it's like being sober at a party where everyone else is drunk.

for me it's like being sober at a party where everyone else is drunk

otm. still, jessa tho.

in any case, she is hella primed to be A BIG THING and a VOICE OF THE MILLENNIAL GENERATION and i am curious to see how she/this holds up to broad scrutiny
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I feel like the people that will enjoy this show the most are the ones asking "What was that cool song at the end of the last episode? Wonderwall? Is that what it's called?"

I don't get drunk and I hate parties but I still Identify with a lot of this show, especially the emotional drama and the self-sabotage. I'm not too far removed from those things, and college, and I'll probably find myself wrapped up in them again once I have more friends out here. Seems inevitable.

(Am 24 as a data point)

xp lol also I knew that that was Wonderwall and thought it was hilarious

do you live in a big city

I live in Seattle now

what's it like

well in my neighborhood on weekend nights there's hordes of young hipsters wandering around between bars doing god knows what, otherwise…cloudy?

fair assessment

I was just saying the other night that the thing that strikes (and annoys) me most about this show is how damn dramatic every single person and thing is. I mean I remember being 25 and I don't ever remember it being like that. It's tiring just to watch! I'm not really fighter though. I don't know.

I stopped trying to watch it through a lens of 'oh this is being 25' becuase that made me v depressed and angry and confused--- I just enjoy it for the weird comedy and funny lines and occasional nice moments between characters

Eh, found this ep a bit whiny -- they're starting to seem more like moodswingy late teens than 20somethings. Groffin Dunne was A+ though

Not the first time Griffin's taken a gander at the wild side on New York City.

Griffin Dunne was excellent

Marnie seemed to enjoy texting her friend that she just had sex much more than the actual sex.

Very true-to-life IME

I was just saying the other night that the thing that strikes (and annoys) me most about this show is how damn dramatic every single person and thing is. I mean I remember being 25 and I don't ever remember it being like that. It's tiring just to watch! I'm not really fighter though. I don't know.

― go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, February 4, 2013 3:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i heard next episode she peruses ilx all day then goes to sleep, feeling slightly desecrated

I loved the hell out of this ep

Based on a lot of the criticisms in this thread, I think maybe you need to be well into your late 30s/early 40s to enjoy this show on an emotionally distant level or something. I mean for me it's p much HA HA IDIOT HOLY SHIT I THINK I DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT ONCE type of level of enjoyment. If I was 10 years younger, I'm sure I'd hate this and the characters would remind me of dickheads/ex-girlfriends/whatever I'd run into from my not-so-distant past.

Or maybe I was just a crappy person at that age, too.... who knows

the bit in this last episode about "andrew andrew" was amazing

also i didn't realize that booth jonathan was dude from lonely island wtf, they somehow made him incredibly attractive? and he has a great ass, thank you based lena dunham

booth jonahtan is a hilarious character btw

i find that lena is really good at lampooning self-involved art scene people like booth jonathan or "andrew andrew" (or even the editor of jazzhate) but not really so good at lampooning the average brooklyn resident (i.e. her or any of the core characters, except maybe marnie, i think she's a good character)

Andrew Andrew are real it turns out?

cannot tell from yr posts if you know that or not apologies

oh lol no shit... "they're ipad DJs/brand consultants" had me rolling. still funny in any event.

no i had no idea

http://www.andrewandrewdotcom.com

so i see

hannah = jerry
marnie = elaine
shosh = george
jessa = kramer

think about it

Last time I saw Andrew Andrew they were using a Novation Twitch controller with a Macbook Air.

But they shot to fame, if I remember correctly, throwing the first iPod DJ parties at APT. The idea of a party where people can bring their iPods and play music was so novel there were articles about it in the New York Times. Or maybe it was the Village Voice. I don't remember, but they are very real.

Andrew andrew are actually very hot shit in nyc

http://newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/02/11/130211crte_television_nussbaum

Hm - the NYRB article is "pretty much the only essay on the show worth reading" [apart from the Atlantic article I filched my only good point from a few paragraphs ago]

Coates' was a brief thing, no? Either way I agree that dismissing all writing save one essay is dumb. She knows better. Still, I liked the article.

I don't generally like Nussbaum's writing, but "Hannah Barbaric" is a funny headline.

Andrew Andrew were a "big deal" when Electroclash happened!

are her mustards not receiving enough accolades

― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:15 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Loved this line. The show is so good at creating laugh-out-loud moments in the middle of really fraught, combative scenes. And not even to defuse the tension, necessarily. People just say ridiculous things when they're arguing.