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This is a really interesting thread. I was familiar with many of the tracks mentioned, and a lot of the others I've now checked out. Suggestions vary in terms of what aspect of the music avoids repeating. Like, some are saying that a different vocal melody means a new section, even when sung over a previously repeated section of music. Taken to an extreme, this would mean a music section could just repeat without any variation as long as the singer, or something else constantly varied. This is what's happening in some other suggestions, especially the more electronica or dance-oriented pieces. The hook, be it a bassline, rythmic phrase, sample or simple chord rif is often very short and just repeats sometimes for the whole track. No matter what else is layered over, this is still extreme repetition. However if a song constantly changed harmonically (vocal melody, chord progression..) but had the same drumbeat throughout, would we still think of this as repetitive?
So what I'm left wondering is: What makes a 'section'? I thought for some time sections come down to harmonic progressions, a distinct set of chord changes. But there are loads of great songs where the chorus has the same chord changes as the verse. But so the melody changes? Yes, but not always! Sometimes the chorus's hook's in the lyric... I ended up feeling that a section is a set of chord changes, with a particular melody - vocal or otherwise. If that same melody is then set over different chords its a different section because the notes in it are relative to the root/key.
Here are my 2 of my favourite ABCDE songs:
'Fifty-Fifty Clown' - Cocteau Twins
'Smooth Operator' - Sade
Thanks for reading.
― benntilby, Monday, 4 November 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure I brought up MOP in some other thread much like this one, as I love its devious construction. Each use of the title phrase is followed up by a different, but similar, line, except the first usage ("I wouldn't trade you for another girl") does come up again at the very end.
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