― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 11 K
7-0
― boldbury (boldbury), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Astros record pre-6/24*: 38-34 (52.7% win percent)Clemens stats pre-6/24*: 19 Starts, 10-2, 2.73 ERA
Astros record post-6/24*: 54-36 (60.0% win percent)Clemens stats post-6/24*: 14 Starts, 8-2, 3.41 ERA
*date of Beltran 3-way trade between KC, OAK and HOU
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
haha I should be banned from posting on a baseball board.
― bnw (bnw), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
2004 - (92-70) Attendance 3087872 --Their highest attendance ever and a big playoff appearance with their first playoff series win in franchise history.
2003 - (87-75) Attendance 2454241 --They finished a game out of first and yet their attendance was a half million tickets down.
The Astros got a great year out of Clemens last year for below what it should have cost for a pitcher of his stature. Take the money that he made last year and add it to what he is making this next season and it most likely evens out. Criminy if I could get a 13 million dollar raise at work, I sure would put in for one.
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― mattbot (mattbot), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Kinda hard to argue now that he's not the best pitcher of the last 60 years.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link
-- gygax!
if only gygax! was still around to see how right he was in the end. ; (
― roger goodell (gear), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Dude, as a Cubs fan you should remember that you have Wood/Prior/Zambrano/Clement... I'd take those 4
― milo z (mlp), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 26 January 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
5.09 ERA 1.42 WHIP
― Steve Shasta, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
But he took one for the team yesterday! On the road! That's veteran leadership! I'd love to see Captain Pistfump try that shit!
― David R., Monday, 25 June 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Also: lol @ his numbers before actually seeing an AL team.
― David R., Monday, 25 June 2007 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
5.32 ERA
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 28 June 2007 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link
no k vs. the orioles potent AND patient lineup.
yeah, the lineup w/ mel mora, jay gibbons and corey patterson.
HA!
― j.q higgins, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
HE MINIMIZED DAMAGE AND KEPT US IN THE GAME AND THAT IS ALL WE ASK OF HIM
― Andy K, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link
HAHA
― jhøshea, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Andy, I didn't know you were stumping for Torre's job!
― David R., Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I still think Yanks will win 85-88 in spite of Rog.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link
They were on pace for that w/out Rajah, after their spurtable spurt against the lowest of the low in the AL & NL (and, um, Boston) (&, yeah, Clemens "helped" during that stretch, but minimally) - problem is, 88 wins will leave them at least 5 GB of the wildcard, & 10+ in back of the Red Sox.
(go O's!)
― David R., Thursday, 28 June 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link
yes, this is the year Fistpump gets to be Fox playoff analyst.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 June 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
They're gonna need to separate Jeter & McCarver w/ some Popemobile-strength bullet-proof plastic.
― David R., Thursday, 28 June 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
why would they need to do that? to stop mccarver from planting giant sloppy kisses on jeter?
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Who in tarnation is captain pistfump?
― Will M., Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/images/thumb/f/f1/Jeter.jpg/250px-Jeter.jpg
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link
http://news.com.com/i/ne/p/2005/1312005jeter350x306.jpg http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Derek-Jeter---2003-World-Series-Game-Action-Photofile-Photograph-C10114200.jpeg http://enquirer.com/editions/2001/11/01/jeter_zoom.jpg
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link
well duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
― David R., Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
giant, sloppy kisses if we're lucky!
― j.q higgins, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
wait, but what about his rodness, the rod?
― j.q higgins, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
As an analyst?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
the rod doesn't analyze...i mean things besides his own awesomeness?
― j.q higgins, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
you just hate him because he's biracial
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Not to mention good-looking.
― Leee, Thursday, 28 June 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Slappy & Pumpy broke up
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 June 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
roger and andy are still going strong
― mookieproof, Friday, 29 June 2007 00:51 (sixteen years ago) link
"I'll probably look at the history at another time. I hope this is something that my body is telling me I'm getting stronger." -- Clemens, who will turn 45 next month, on winning No. 350
― Andy K, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:21 (sixteen years ago) link
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070703/thumb.65a884f91a4f412e93fd1445d58a3741.twins_yankees_baseball_nyy111.jpg
― Andy K, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link
YOU SHOULD GET BACK IN THE GAME ROGER CLEMENS
― David R., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link
THE END IS NEAR.
― Leee, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Someone get him his poultice.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Actual BBTN quotes:
"You know what? He continues to get better with age."
"Keep in mind that the New York Yankees have to score runs for Roger in order for him to be effective for them."
(Uhh WOW plus you guys were just talking for several minutes about the miraculous sustained effectiveness of someone old enough to play in an old-timer game. The New York Yankees scored one run.)
THE STORY IS NOT THE ANGELS WINNING.
― Andy K, Sunday, 8 July 2007 04:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I would think in terms of Boston baseball lore, that would be a pretty desirable baseball. (I don't know--is Clemens still a villain there, or has enough time passed?)
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 August 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
enough time has passed. no i think you're probably right. and it's That Team, too - Rich Gedman's on there. Steve Lyons. Marty fucking Barrett.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 August 2014 09:12 (nine years ago) link
reading this thread for the first time and, damn, y'all are harsh.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 7 August 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
I have no beef with the Rocket though to be fair I was not a baseball fan in the 80s-90s so maybe it was different then. He made a good chicken in the Simpsons.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 7 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
A comment by Bill James today--"I think (Teddy Higuera) probably had as many really great games as anybody in our lifetime did in a five-year period, not including the 1960s where you have Gibson and Koufax and Drysdale and others"--prompted me to look him up. I remember him as good, but I don't get this at all:
In '86, Clemens' breakthrough season, Clemens threw more innings than Higuera, gave up fewer runs, fewer earned runs, 50 fewer hits, fewer walks, fewer HR, and struck out 30 more batters. Higuera led in bWAR, though, 9.4 to Clemens' 8.8. I find this baffling. I mean, Clemens had one more HBP, three more balks, and eight more wild pitches, but how much does that count for? And Clemens pitched in Fenway.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 November 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link
Sent this in (big surprise) as an "Ask Bill," which in turn ended up as a Tom Tango tweet.
So, @baseball_ref does an OUTSTANDING job in laying out WHY their WAR numbers are what they are. You may disagree as to the individual components, but they are extremely transparent about it.cc: @billjamesonline So, let's take it, step by step...https://t.co/ipZtAEsuaB pic.twitter.com/QA6Eqbh5l8— Tangotiger (@tangotiger) November 21, 2022
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link
"Tom Tango tweet"--will one day rival "toy boat" as a tongue twister.
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
Clemons will always have the headwind of being a total asshole.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
*Clemens. Fuck.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
Read “Clemons” in the voice of Cajun man
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 27 November 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link