"Flux of Pink Indians" is such a great name!
― roxymuzak, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link
RFI - Crusty punk
― latebloomer, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
good stuff. grindcore wouldn't have existed without this kind of music.
― latebloomer, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
it's true!
― J0hn D., Monday, 31 March 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Cacophony is teh bestest, but I see I said that here already. There is so much detail in that album.
― sleeve, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
death church!
― chaki, Monday, 31 March 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
listen to chaki
― latebloomer, Monday, 31 March 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link
RP have a new album out in about a month and I'm sorry to say it pretty much sucks :(
― DJ Mencap, Monday, 31 March 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
hasn't that been true of most of the second incarnation RP releases?
i need to get EPs of RP on cd. goddamn, they were so good.
― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Peni4evah.
― Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 07:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Hardcore punk never really stopped in the UK, it was/is mostly hated/ignored by music critics which explains why it was written out of music history, and the fanbase was pretty small compared to the USA etc, so it just carried on as an underground scene.
I can't easily pick one of these 2 bands! I was playing them both yesterday.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link
-- latebloomer, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:44 (Yesterday) Link
yeah when we were listening to it, other than being sort of blown away like what IS this kind of music? i was thinking that it sort of occupies that weird nexus of punk/hardcore/metal in a way that i thought only U.S. stuff like late black flag or die kreutzen and stuff did.....did the Bay Area thrash bands like these guys? i swear metallica or slayer or someone did....
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay woah woah woah. Back up. I am totally flipping over Rudimentary Peni right now. Got three albums of theirs now and yowza. Don't even know where to begin with the brilliance on display here.
Do you know they even have a song called "Black President"?
Bimble's goth heart is totally beating <3 <3 <3 <3
Check out the lyrics for "The Eyes Of The Dead":
"Seeing with the eyes of the dead/Reliving the lives of the dead/Living with the lies of the dead/Dreaming (breathing??) with the cries of the dead"
I don't know if I've got all these lyrics right, necessarily, but that is some heavy, heavy goth right there, regardless, and it ought to be respected.
― Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Also they are way, way punk rock. I don't want to give the impression they're not.
― Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link
What 3 did you buy? EPs of RP, Death Church, and Cacophony are the only essentials.
I wrote my 33 1/3 proposal on Cacophony this time. Wish me luck!
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
haha awww. I'm cheering on other 33 1/3 hopefuls already haha. Yes of course I wish you luck!
The three I have of RP are Death Church, No More Pain EP (god what a title!!! I worship that shit), and the "EP's of RP" which I haven't really dug into much yet.
Where is Colonel Poo I wonder? He likes to talk about this band.
The way I feel about Rudimentary Peni is it's like early Death In June (when they were called Crisis and really punk) but like improved by three times or something.
― Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link
"Being brave won't save me from the grave". Christ, even metalheads should hear this."The Death of The Author" is what it's called.
― Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Death Church is my favorite punk album ever. Cacophony is simply one of my favorite albums ever. It's the anomaly in their catalog in that it was primarily written by Blinko about H.P. Lovecraft. Musically, it also stretches the furthest.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Just full on punk rock sometimes, so strange that I could get that far into a punk band. I adore them. I'll check out Cacophony, thanks.
― Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.goodbadmusic.com/2008/02/12/magits-fully-coherent-7ep-outer-himmilayan-records-uk-1979/
pre-peni crude synth plonkin'
― GOD PUNCH TO DALE HAWKWINDS (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 February 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Death Church was a 'best of both worlds' type album for metalheads who wouldn't listen to stuff this punky and punks who wouldn't listen to stuff this metally. Plus i mean "when you're in a martian church"!!!
― Ballistic, Friday, 19 February 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
it seems like cacophony is fucking impossible to find on vinyl. :(
― El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 19 February 2010 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Still can't choose between these 2 bands but Flux Of Pink Indians were really great at their reunion gig last year, they really nailed the guitar sound, it was exactly as tinny and awesome as on the records, and Sid from Rubella Ballet hopped on drums for Tube Disasters (twice!) as he played on the original. Never seen Peni live but they hardly ever played live AFAIK
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 19 February 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xp re: Cacophony
yeah the bassist hates it! Discogs has one from Australia for $40... I don't think it's even being kept in print by the band. check out the Mark Prindle reviews for more sad info.
― sleeve, Friday, 19 February 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Finally found Cacophony and it is plain great.Horrors In The Museum is such a great song.
― Marco Damiani, Saturday, 27 November 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
went down memory lane with both of these bands on my hi-fi a week or two ago. i was drunk, of course. always sound great. always inspiring.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 November 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
NIGHTGAUNTSNIGHTGAUNTS
― 4 out of 5 Fenriz agree. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 28 November 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Every band should have a Lovecraft-inspired in their discography.
Cthulhu Fhtagn!
― Marco Damiani, Sunday, 28 November 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Flux owns Rudi anyday, for one Flux was real, the drummer of Rudi ate meat, which is bullshit. So in closing, Flux owns.
MarxyBoy
― |-|4x0|7, Monday, 25 August 2003 04:23 (8 years ago) Permalink
this was awesome
― arby's, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
love both these bands
let's not forget about how wonderful nick blinko's artwork is
― arby's, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/7945312223037641.jpeg
http://www.outsiderart.co.uk/blinko/large/blinko8.jpg
― arby's, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
some weird sonics on this remastered version of Cacophony...
I mean, it's great to have this back in print again, and I'm glad the band is receptive to that (finally), but it sounds to me like the guitars are up and the vocals are down - which is not what I really want from this record.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link
Haven't heard the remaster since I have original pressings I bought new in the 80s. Been curious though... At least they restored the proper artwork.
John Loder may be turning in his grave if it really sounds that off...
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link
my thought on listening further was that somebody brickwalled the tapes and then pressed it to vinyl. haven't heard the new CD but I have old CD and LP both since it is one of my favorite records ever. the new gatefold LP cover is very nice!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
I've been meaning to get into them for a while; should I get the remasters? I tend to always go for the newest and cheapest versions.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 2 January 2014 17:16 (ten years ago) link
If you can find originals for something close to the price of a new one, I'd stick with the originals based on my (limited) listening experience. I should really try to put up an A-B comparison on Soundcloud so other folks can comment.
― sleeve, Thursday, 2 January 2014 17:18 (ten years ago) link
Used CD should be easy to find. These were produced really well in the first place.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 2 January 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
ohhh man they brickwalled the fuck out of this, check the waveforms:
https://soundcloud.com/sleeve-the-dj/sets/rudi-peni-comparison
― sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link
(new LP remaster is the second track)
― sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:32 (ten years ago) link
via Prindle website, for posterity:
Okay, it's Grant's fault. View these quotes from Ian Glasper's excellent 2006 book The Day The Country Died: A History of Anarcho Punk 1980-1984:
"My favourite release is definitely Cacophony." - Nick Blinko
"For me, (Cacophony) was the most interesting thing that we had done musically, in terms of all those weird time signatures, and the lyrics are fascinating... even if I don't understand all of them! I just think that the band as a whole put in a really good performance, and it was the best thing Nick has ever done vocally; I think he was at the absolute pinnacle of his creativity on that album." - Jon Greville
"The different style of Cacophony was not intended. It just came out that way, and in retrospect I regard it as a move in the wrong direction, into self-indulgence. As a result of that, in recent years, I have pushed to build upon and improve the more 'traditional' Peni style." - Grant Matthews
Thanks a lot, ASSHOLE.
― sleeve, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the information.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 January 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
I really taken my time on finally listening to that soundcloud comparison. They all sound fine to me but I'm not an audiophile.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 June 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
subhumans reissues were so terrible. i don't even want to know about the crass reissues on cd. if some of the most perfectly recorded records ever made were fucked up somehow for cd it would be sad indeed. best to stick with old pressings. peni records are amazing in their natural form. same with flux. you can't improve on that stuff.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 June 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Nick Blinko might just be my favorite punk vocalist. finally getting around to buying Cacophony, though used to play the shit out of Death Church.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link
You have EPs of RP right? Because that shit is GRRRRREAAAATTTTT
― ^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
actually I need that one too.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Saturday, 7 March 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
holy shit
tt has introduced me to rudimentary peni. death church was really good but CACOPHONY oh my giddy fuck
― imago, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
Peni is the best band of all time.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
this album/band is just...i can't even
― imago, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link
just bought Nick Blinko's book The Primal Screamer. 2021 is the year of Rudimentary Peni apparently
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link
Just read that someone is wearing a Rudimentary Peni t-shirt in Oscars nominated movie Sound of Metal― curmudgeon, Friday, April 23, 2021 9:07 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― curmudgeon, Friday, April 23, 2021 9:07 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Honestly the first I had ever heard of RP
― jaymc, Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link
Am hoping that the Death Church reissue comes in the large foldout poster/sleeve.
― ringworm, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link
Can only buy the new reissues through bandcamp?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 June 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
Oh, they're not out yet
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 June 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
More art bookshttps://zagava.de/shop/the-sketchbooks-of-nick-blinko?edition=52
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 1 October 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link
reissue of Death Church LP coming soon on Sealed, they will also be reissuing the 1st 7" EP next year
― sleeve, Friday, 1 October 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
Death Church reissue is up for order via Sealed records.
― ringworm, Friday, 3 December 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link
sealedrecordsPlus forthcoming for 2022 and Beyond
SEAL-016 CHIN CHIN - Cry In Vain LP (Compilation including unreleased BBC Session)SEAL-017 BIKINI MUTANTS - Bikini Mutants LPSEAL-018 VARIOUS - GROUCHO MARXIST COMPILATION LPSEAL-019 MODEL WORKERS - Cry 7"SEAL-020 RUDIMENTARY PENI - Cacophony LP, CD and TapeSEAL-021 ALTERNATIVE - If They Treat You Like Shit - Act Like Manure LPSEAL-022 RUDIMENTARY PENI - EPs of RP LP, CD and TapeSEAL-023 ORGANIZED CHAOS - LPSEAL-024 KARMA SUTRA - The Daydreams Of A Production Line Worker LPSEAL-025 TWELVE CUBIC FEET - Straight Out the Fridge 12”SEL-026 RUDIMENTARY PENI - Pope Adrian 37th Psychristiatric LP. CD and Tape
2023 - The rest of the RUDIMENTARY PENI Catalogue
Plus we are moving into the odd magazine and book. We are putting together a Rudimentary Peni Book/Magazine with Interviews, Gig handouts and more
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Thursday, 3 February 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link
Farce 12" reissue is coming on Crass/One little independent at some point too.
― ringworm, Thursday, 3 February 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link