80's Metal: Classic Or Dud?

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No, I don't judge the music on that... well, in a way I do. It makes me feel uncomfortable to listen to it because of all the baggage that goes with it. (I actually really do like early GnR, and someone mentioned Anthrax at the thread's top, who were quality). However, I can't call myself a "fan" of it, not only because most of it fails to appeal to me (on the whole, I don't like guitar driven music that much), but, secondly, it makes me feel like the consensus view on this is that it's great to like, as long as you don't really like it, which is a view I'm fucked if I'm subscribing to. It's exactly the same way that student cheese parties have made me slowly despise "Build Me Up Buttercup", which I used to love before university. Maybe I'm wrong, but... it makes me feel uncomfortable.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 31 August 2002 10:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Siegbran: Tell me more about the German Poison.

80s metal worries me, mainly because it's become too enshrined with smug, self-satisfied, Top Shop irony in the past few years. "Hey, Tara, Krispin, Emily, let's go listen to some Poison records!" "Smashing idea Tarquin, I can wear my stupid fucking poncey ironic Iron Madien top whilst we're doing it"

Most of the people that I know that like 80s hair metal like it for nostalgic reasons, not ironic ones.

― Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Saturday, 31 August 2002 11:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

The German Poison played excellent thrash/proto-black metal (like "In The Sign Of Evil"-era Sodom) and became quite a cult band with their demos. The resulting album's good too. The band is long dead, although some members started a new band with the very silly name of "RU Dead?". Never heard any recordings of that band though.

From the BM list:

Poison: Germany 1982-1987
# Right, not *that* Poison
Sons of Evil/demo/1984
Black Angel/demo/1984
# A promo
Bestial Death/demo/1985
Awakening of the Dead/demo/1986
Live Terror/demo/1986
Into The Abyss/1986 [Music Collection/?]
# Re-released on CD in 1993. This is not an EP although there are only
# four tracks

I'm still searching for the CD rerelease of the debut, so if anyone has it....

― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Sunday, 1 September 2002 10:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey someone posted about pretty boy floyd in this thread -- that'll show me not to click back after i've said something.

going through my mp3s, and my filepile list, made me realize just how much of a classic love/hate is. their first two album are great, if you can get a hold of them.

― maura (maura), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 01:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shouldn't this be a "Search & Destroy"?

Classic: Guns 'N' Roses (duh), Megadeath (more Punk than Metal), "Pour Some Sugar On Me" (more Pop than Metal), "Ace Of Spades", Ozzy, "Back In Black", Basket Full Of Puppies.

Dud: METALLICA (yes, I hated them pre-Napster. Yes, pre-"Load", too.)

― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 11 September 2002 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Basically, you like metal as long as it sounds like rock, pop or punk?

― Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 18:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

six months pass...

i bought "DRFSR" by warrant yesterday, i think i'd forgotten just how great warrant are. i listened to it in the bath with my bottle of champagne. i really love songs about getting with country girls.

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

my top five men i wanted to marry in the late 80s: 1) CC DeVille
2)Rikki Rockett
3) Jani Lane
4) Sebastian Bach
5) Joey Tempest.

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

80's metal? Well, apart from Shout At the Devil, make mine N.W.O.B.H.M.!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

this "jonathan" character was a joke, yes?

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Great classic bands. Who were REAl men. Knew how to party hard ™
They took drugs,shagged audience members had hundreds of groupies.They acted like how bands should.
The fans, especially the ladies could dress up and look like proper chicks. Instead of that darned grunge where it made everyone dress like a dyke...Its time rock went back to state of the art modern production like they did in the 80s. Its the only way to get new sounds."

top class trolling...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Everyone knows that Heavy Metal is the most conservative of all the loud rock music. No gym teacher could ever get that many people to dress alike!"

But most metal fans don't dress like that. So you don't know they're metal fans.

Other music have dress codes too.

Punk, Goth, Indie, Rap...

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

With the exception of Def Leppard's "Pyromania" and "Hysteria" albums, plus Van Halen's "Jump" single: DUD!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

erol alkan played 'sweet child o' mine' at the last bugged out! and i have rarely seen a club explode in that way. CLASSIC!

― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I still have Warrant's "Cherry Pie" on tape. I'm always tempted to buy Winger's greatest hits, I dunno why, as "Miles Away" was their only good song.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

you are all fucking nuts: the best metal ever

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

But Iron Maiden is extremely melodic, Geir!

― Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

geir what are your feelings on mutt lange?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, Maiden probably had better melodies than Leppard. They were more prog too. You'd probably like them.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 00:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

geir what are your feelings on mutt lange?

As a producer (and that is his job, isn't it), he is really good. Doesn't mean that every single album he has ever produced is great though, because that depends on the songs therein. But I have a lot of respect for Mutt Lange anyway.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Looking back, all those bands were awful. But they looked so great! I wish they'd been good....

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...

I just heard Poison's "Nothing But a Good Time" again for the first time since I was...5? and it sounded awesome... really quite fresh, infinitely better than I remembered.

― OCP (OCP), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

I've been listening to the AC/DC back catalog extensively in the last few months, and the more I listen, the less I like the Mutt Lange produced albums.

But 80s metal = still classic. More NWOBHM nostalgia: Angel Witch, Witchfynde, Agent Steel, Cloven Hoof, Razor, Jag Panzer...

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

Kreator, Destruction
When I looked at this I thought it said Kitchens of Distinction, and then I read it as Kreators of Destruction.
Kreators of Destruction would be the best band name ever of all time.

-- Andy K (), August 30th, 2002 3:06 PM. (link)

Someone help. I just peed a little bit.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

CLASSIC!! I listened to Nuclear motherfuckin' Assault today. There's some great pics on their website of the band playing - still just as drunk and crazy as they always were. There's a great one of John Connelly with an empty Budweiser case over his head rockin' out lying on the stage. The next time Slayer does one of their alcohol tours they need to get Nuclear Assault on the bill and I'll follow the tour everywhere and be at every show.

Poison wasn't 80's metal - they were 80's drip.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

(you guys are so going to love/hate the 1988 cdr "go!" extravaganza)

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

You better have a Nuclear Assault song on there!!

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

(there can be if they have anything on iTunes)

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

(though, ostensibly, Survive is not really a prime moment for them)

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, still classic, a staple like pasta.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

Taking sides: paying for a great metal song on iTunes for a buck vs. paying for a used vinyl copy of a late 80s anonymous Enigma/Metal Blade/Combat/Relativity metal album for a buck or two.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

Go one better, make sure it's a CD still packaged in a generic Enigma/Metal Blade longbox.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

downloading is sorta anti-metal, I think. It's not the same, just not at all.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

note: tygers of pang tang aren't that great, hanoi rocks are.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago) link

Well, if they only showed a skull-shaped progress bar filling up with blood instead of a normal progress bar while downloading metal, then maybe it would be cool, but jel has a point.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

Is there a Grim Reaper screensaver?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, jel has a point on the end of SHARP RUSTY METAL BLADE READY TO ROCK YOU TO A MERCILESS JOURNEY OF DESPAIR AND MAYHEM.... *OOOGABOOGAOOOGABOOGA WAAAA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-H YEEEEEAH!*

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

Though having said that, I did find this great site with hair-metal MP3's!...Must find that link...

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.sleazeroxx.com/audio.shtml

Wow!

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

Jel, I kiss you... KISS YOU KISS YOU KISS YOU!

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

MY TONGUE IS LIKE POISON, IT FILLS UP YOUR MOU-OU-OUTHHHHHH

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

80's speed/thrash/death metal, classic. As for hair/glam metal, don't care for it. It reminds me too much of county fairs, nausea, and babysitters inviting ther boyfriends over and ordering me not to tell my parents. And Freddy fuckng Krueger.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

note: tygers of pang tang aren't that great, hanoi rocks are.

Wow, Jel = otm x 1000

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

Survive is by far my favorite Nuclear Assault album - go figure. The one before it was too hit and miss and they lost some of the hardcore edge on Handle With Care - especially on the Glenn Evans tracks.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago) link

Yay! that site had Vain....no one ever remembers them but they had a great, sad, kinda minor key glam metal album in the late 80s called no respect...they split the difference between the first LA Guns record and D.A.D....awesome!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:50 (twenty years ago) link

hundreds of streaming 80s Hair/Glam metal videos are available here!
http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/glamdaddy/

― Candy, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

(Well, hopefully Nuclear Assault are iTunes friendly. i'm curious)

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

Tuff
I Hate Kissing You Goodbye
Poison
Every Rose Has It's Thorn
Poison
Life Goes On
Poison
So Tell Me Why
Poison
Something To Believe In
Poison
Unskinny Bop
The London Quireboys
Hey You
The London Quireboys
I Don't Love You Anymore
Badlands
The Last Time
Barren Cross
Imaginary Music
Bulletboys
Talk To Your Daughter
Alice Cooper
Poison
Cry Wolf
Pretender
Faith No More
Epic
Faster Pussycat
You're So Vain
Faster Pussycat
Nonstop to Nowhere
Def Leppard
Stand Up, Kick Love Into Motion (Uncensored)
Dio
Wild One
Enuff Z'Nuff
Life Is Strange
Enuff Z'Nuff
Wheels
Great White
House Of Broken Love
Lynch Mob
Wicked Sensation
Lynch Mob
River Of Love
Mr. Big
To Be With You
Vince Neil
You're Invited (But Your Friend Can't Come)
Queensryche
Eyes Of A Stranger
Quiet Riot
Cum On Feel The Noize
Ratt
Lovin' You's A Dirty Job
Ratt
Shame Shame Shame
Saigon Kick
Love Is On The Way
Richie Sambora
Ballad Of Youth
Skid Row
Monkey Business
Skid Row
Quicksand Jesus
Skid Row
Wasted Time.
Slaughter
Real Love
Slaughter
The Wild Life
Southgang
Tainted Angel
Southgang
Love Ain't Enough
Southgang
Tug Of War
Chrissy Steele
Love Don't Last Forever
Chrissy Steele
Love You Til It Hurts
Stryper
Always There For You
Stryper
Shining Star
Twisted Sister
I Wanna Rock
Type O Negative
Black No. 1
Vixen
Cryin'
Vixen
Love Made Me
Vixen
How Much Love
Vixen
Love Is A Killer
W.A.S.P.
Arena Of Pleasure
Warrant
Family Picnic
White Lion
Tell Me
Winger
Easy Come Easy Go
all at http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/glamdaddy/

― Candy, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

'Fight To Be Free' and 'Survive' are still some of the most intense metal songs I've ever heard. One of my all-time favorite metal moments is where John Connelly screams "Its time to stand up and make yourself FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" on 'Fight To Be Free'

You can probably tell I really love that album. Its an all-time favorite. I hope theyre iTunes friendly too. Whatever that means.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 10 January 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link

'Rise From The Ashes' is probably the best song though. I remember listening to that shit so loud and that part where Dan Lilker plays that really fast bassline by himself and they go into that fuckin INSANE fast part - thats just amazing. They were and still are such an underrated band. They are right behind Slayer for me when it comes to just brutal, agressive hardcore metal.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 10 January 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

I just love how that Britny Fox picture appears on every 80s metal thread.

― Rock bastard, Saturday, 20 March 2004 04:04 (twenty years ago) link

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