Durutti Column: classic or dud

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Best Durutti Ever : 'Say What You Mean EP'. Just perfect.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Are the latest DC UK reissues still in print?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

No I think they're OOP now, but v.easy to get. You could get them in quite big chains like HMV until recently, but I think the supply has dried up. Most decent indie outlets have them or can get them - Sister Ray, Action etc. Also v.easy to get on ebay. They're usually £6.99 or £7.99 - if you really want them it might be worth ordering a few from the UK, although the exchange rate is crap for you now.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Amazon seems to have them. Actually the one I don't have is Without Mercy, which is the one you rarely see. I had it on vinyl but it was a dodgy pressing and I never got around to getting the CD. I must get this before they disappear for good.

Great DC memory from 1985 - them doing half of Without Mercy live on the Tube 'Factory Special' one Friday night. Also on were Section 25 doing 'Hilltop' (a video - not live IIRC) and the Factory All-Stars fronted by Simon Topping, Beverly McDonald, Caesar amongst others doing various songs including LWTUA. On a FRIDAY TEA-TIME! Anyone else see this?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

don't think they've ever been released in the US in any format, actually. When I was in high school I had to go to some fancy stores and pay top dollar to get original CDs, I had Valuable Passages which I paid 25 or so bucks for, which seemed like a ton of money to my 15 yr old mind. Maybe it's a job for Acute, or perhaps LTM will be on the case. LTM stuff used to be pricey here but now Darla's carrying them for 15 bucks.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Doc: if you get time to make this CD, I would appreciate it: thanks: I look forward to receiving it. !

the chimefox, Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Cerysmatic Factory provide details of The Best of The Durutti Column double compilation, now due for release on October 11th.

Disc one

1. Sketch For Summer
2. Conduct
3. Sketch For Winter
4. Lips That Would Kiss
5. For Belgian Friends
6. Danny
7. Never Known
8. Jacqueline
9. The Missing Boy
10. Prayer
11. Spent Time
12. Without Mercy 1
13. Without Mercy 2
14. The Room
15. Tomorrow
16. LFO Mod

Disc two

1. What Is It To Me (Woman)
2. Otis
3. Requiem Again
4. Home
5. Contra Indications
6. People's Pleasure Park
7. My Irascible Friend
8. Fado
9. Sing To Me
10. Pigeon
11. Mello (Part 1)
12. Falling
13. Woman
14. Requiem For Mother

Title: The Best of The Durutti Column
Label: Warner
Catalogue number: 5046753932
Release date: 11 October 2004

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002XOZY2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link

not bad!

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I assume you're not talking about the cover.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link

*looks* erk!

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks good. I wonder if the whole of Without Mercy 1 and 2 are on there or have they edited them? Unedited, they're approx 39 minutes together.

So pleased to see Contra-Indications on there. I love that track!

PF - I will try and make the compilation CD this week.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

That first disc has the same tracklisting as "Valuable Passages" with "LFO/MOD" stuck on the end (wasn't on the original CD, just the vinyl version), so I guess the two "Without Mercy" tracks are the excerpts used on that compilation.

Andrew Norman, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

what a strange record cover.

I used to have valuable passages on CD but lost it, then had it on vinyl, I'll have to check but did the double vinyl have more songs? Just LFO/MOD the difference?

I hadn't heard any newer stuff untill I got limewire and was able to dl some. I was suprised how good much of it is. Esp. a song called Drinking Time.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

no spanish lament!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't even recognise any of the titles on the second disc except for the last song. where are they from?

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

"Otis" and "Requiem Again" are both from Vini Reilly
"Mello (Part 1)" is from Rebellion
"My Irascible Friend" and "Fado" are from Sex & Death

etc

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

ah it's the songs from sex and death I didn't recognize.

really I barely know the name of any of his songs, I guess.

should I buy:

obey the time
bread and circuses
time was gigantic
dry
fidelity
rebellion

?

someone else's party was the first album I picked up since Vini Reilly and it's excellent.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've had Valuable Passages on vinyl for years. Kinda wish I had it on CD instead, but I don't recall seeing it on CD, either. Dr. C might be right that the Say What You Mean/Mean What You Say EP is best.

Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i have the 2xLP of it, but i don't think it's ever been issued on CD afaik

rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Otis" = absolute classic. Better combination of samples and original music than Moby could ever have dreamed of. I saw Vini walking past the office I where I work a couple of weeks ago, and also Howard Devoto a couple of days before (separately); both with hands full of Tesco bags, so I'm pretty sure he does eat occasionally.

neil tacus (tacit), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

According to this here discog : http://users.rcn.com/rpsweb/durutti-column/discog.html#releases, Valuable Passages had an excerpt from 'Piece of An Out Of Tune Grand Piano' and 'Blind Elevator Girl' on it. Otherwise, yes - CD 1 is the same as VP.

It was issued on CD.

Kyle - buy Obey The Time. Absolutely fantastic recd.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i am slowly falling in love with dc. first i had a night in new york, a cd i hardly ever listened to. then i got lc which totally smashed me. especially the 1st track, sketch for dawn i with some amazing drumming and missing boy. then i got the return which is slightly less good but still nice as the doc already said. i just ordered vini reilly.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

as said before, I had Valuable Passages on CD, paid a good deal of money for it at the time...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

"Valuable Passages" was my first ever CD purchase and thus has a place in my heart forever.

"Say what you mean" was also my first taste of DC, 99p in HMV sale in August 85. Played nothing else for a month once I bought it.

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:36 (nineteen years ago) link

And I've just found out that the Cardiff gig has been cancelled. Absolutely gutted. 8-(

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Now playing : The Nosebleeds - Fascist Pigs.

Vinnie on fine form.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

No "Twenty Trees"!?1?

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone here have the 4 CDR rarities collection that the mailing list put out a couple of years back? Quite the labor of love, I have a copy of it on an mp3 disc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned, mail me off board with the track listing. I'm interested!

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Vini Reilly is obviously an anagram of Iggy Pop, looking at that cover.

I found Circuses and Bread in the used bin today so I jumped on it. I need to get more, now.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Some photos from the Ronnie Scott's gig are here :

http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/index.html

Watch out for the shots of Bruce Mitchell - words fail me!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i got vini reilly yesterday. different from the others i had. lots of voice samples vini plays guitar over. and a flamenco influence. altogether it sounds pretty world-ish to my ears. i like it. less than lc but still. a grower.

the reissues on factory once/london are grate. hilarious liner notes by tony wilson, lots of excellent bonus tracks which are sometimes better than the original album tracks. nice covers and different colours for each cd inside and on the edge of the cd. they are quite expensive though. but i guess i will try to get all the others i haven't yet. next one on my list: another setting ( unfortunately obey the time seems to be sold out at the german amazon already). the few albums on vini's site are at 15 pounds. that's quite a rip-off, isn't it?

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 10:08 (nineteen years ago) link

The reissues are usually around £7-9 here. Stocks of new ones are definitely starting to run out, but you can easily get them 2nd hand.

I think you'll like 'Another Setting', Alex.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Can someone say why it is that Circuses and Bread was never rereleased?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Well it was originally on FBN, rather than FAC. Also Crepuscule put out a CD of it in 1993. This probably means that it was left out when London took on the FAC catalogue.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Really! I was always wondering why that was so and now you've summed it all up for me. Thanks! (I do have a Factory copy so I am not bereft.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Mind you some of the Amigos en Portugal (on that mad Portugese label) tracks are included on the Domo Arigato reiss, also FBN-only and Crepuscule compilation tracks and singles are included on many of the early ones, so I'm not sure what the real *reason* is, other than a typical Factoryesque muddle.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Somebody Elses Party, recent album, some great moments, but much of it ruined by some guy with laptop that produces quite a lot of it.

I'm actually listening to it for the first time right now and personally I think it sounds great -- one thing I've always enjoyed about the albums over time is how Reilly does play around with other sounds and styles while still sounding essentially himself. The more 'laptop' tracks actually make for a good blending to my ears.

Now, Tempis Fugit is the new album, correct? I've heard that as well, enjoyed it well enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, haven't got these yet, must do so.

Been listening to the 'Say What You Mean' mini-LP a lot recently. I really do think that this is the best DC. The Room, Silence & E.E are absolutely monumental.

Also I was talking bollocks on my previous post - the Amigos tracks are on the reissue of Another Setting, not Domo.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
After I bought "Say What You Mean" I accidentally played it at 33 instead of 45


until the vocals started, of course

Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

"until the vocals started" is the story of my life with the DC

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly the trick is to play them at 78.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The newest one, "Keep Breathing," is pretty good. I've only listened once so far but liked it. A friend who has listened more says it's fantastic.

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Also looks like they're playing some dates in the UK

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Duke - that is a very easy record to end up playing at 33 by mistake. I can't count the times I've done it now. It's a ritual habit at this point.

Bimble brings a lawn chair to antartica so he can sit and drink silver coff (Bim, Sunday, 22 January 2006 06:56 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but....

gawd I love vinyl

I have it on CD but I can't listen to it

the LP is so much better

Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I've felt bad for years that I still haven't got it on CD yet though I have every other Durutti Column thing I could want on CD.

Someone wrote the title of the song in calligraphy on the inside white sleeve before I'd even bought it (used). It cost me like $4 at the time. I still have it, and play it pretty often, but that inside white sleeve is really falling apart now.

Bimble brings a lawn chair to antartica so he can sit and drink silver coff (Bim, Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Well I can't say I have EVERYTHING Durutti Column I would want on CD - I can't claim to have a real copy of the Amigos Em Portugal LP on CD because there doesn't exist such a thing. But I do have the LP. Don't love it as much as the Say What You Mean record though.

Bimble brings a lawn chair to antartica so he can sit and drink silver coff (Bim, Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link

amigos em portugal

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 January 2006 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link

ARRRRGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahaha

Praise be to the reissue deities, etc.

Bimble brings a lawn chair to antartica so he can sit and drink silver coff (Bim, Sunday, 22 January 2006 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link

poor guy, but he sounds to be dealing with the situation about as best as could be hoped for. glad he's housed and seems to have some people who care about him.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 21 July 2023 22:26 (eight months ago) link

I was shocked to hear a Durutti Column song on THE BEAR a few weeks ago. I remember that he asked fans for financial help some years back when he was on the verge of becoming unhoused

beamish13, Saturday, 22 July 2023 00:14 (eight months ago) link

That scene in The Bear was so perfect too, hope he gets/got a good wedge for that.

MaresNest, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:00 (eight months ago) link

According to Spotify he has 340,000 monthly listeners. Hopefully that’s enough to give him financial security.

But, yeah a poignant read. That line about gusts of wind blowing his words away is so vivid. Never knew about his early life on the streets or suicide attempts.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 22 July 2023 11:07 (eight months ago) link

Always wondered what he got paid for having his music in "Jerry Maguire." That was a pretty major film, Tom Cruise for pete's sake.

henry s, Saturday, 22 July 2023 12:50 (eight months ago) link

Pretty shocking tbh. Amazed he survived, never mind made music, never mind that it was so wonderful xp

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 July 2023 12:52 (eight months ago) link

He should write a book. His instagram posts are great. Very political and very strongly worded. Doesn’t seem to have lost any energy on that front. And if this interview is any sign he has a lot to say.

dan selzer, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:03 (eight months ago) link

There was this which I have but haven’t read! https://www.citizeneditions.com/products/calm-by-vini-reilly-second-edition

dan selzer, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:05 (eight months ago) link

A great man.

John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:34 (eight months ago) link

xp You should read that now! And then send it to me, because it is sold out :(

henry s, Saturday, 22 July 2023 14:35 (eight months ago) link


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