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I can't understand how it would even be in question that they were part of post punk, without even that first single on rough trade (He's Frank / Alphaville ) half the pages in rip it up and start again would be blank.

Support bands for the three times I saw them:
1. Josef K (valentinos, edinburgh 1980)
2. Restricted Code (heriot -watt campus, near Edinburgh 1981)
3. The Blisters (old 13th Note 90s re-union)


Sandy Blair, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

those amazing instrumentals. man, i could swoon over them all day

Yes yes yes OTM!! "Strange Boutique" is one of the best albums of the 80s, unfortunately they blew it by following it up with "Love Zombies", which is one of the lamest follow-up albums of the 80s. By the way, the single version of "405 Lines" is one of their greatest instrumentals, miles better than the "Love Zombies" version.

Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The only Monochrome Set album I've heard is Love Zombies, I thought it was pretty mediocre and never bothered with anything else by them - have I made a terrible mistake? I just downloaded Volume, Contrast, Brilliance comp to see...

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, it was a mistake, "Love Zombies" is considered to be the worst album of the firs incarnation of Monochrome Set (I mean the records made until 1985). And rightly so.

zeus, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"the worst" means "not utterly brilliant", naturally.

zeus, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Love Zombies suffers mostly through production...listen to the song itself on Volume Contrast and Brilliance, in it's Peel or otherwise radio version...killer.

Restricted Code, now there's an underrated band.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Put me down as a Love Zombies fan. "Apocalypso" is one of my fave MS songs...& "Karma Sutra" & of course "B-I-D Spells Bid" are pretty great, off the top of my head.

One song I think I like equally in its LP & Peel versions is "Ici Les Enfants." Peel version is kind of rougher & there's that dissonant slide gtr breakdown & then "Death comes in leather boots. Death is a white Protesant whore"/ "...are you ready for incest?" etc.

Restricted Code supporting Monochrome Set sounds like a dream.

The one Five or Six record that Dan didn't mention is the one called "Four by Five or Six," which I can't remember if it's on Cherry Red or some Dutch label or what (have to go home & look at Pillows & Prayers liners) & I've always meant to get it...what is that one all about?

ryanch, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i like love zombies as much as anything else by the band. i didn't know people didn't like it. but i lived in a hermetically sealed bubble until the internet. i never knew anyone who listened to half the stuff i liked.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Hah! Yes, 'Four from Five or Six' is the EP by 5 or 6 I have -- sorry to not mention it by name but it's in a box somewhere. It's moody and weird and I remember trumpets on it, it sounding kind of like half of This Heat just nattering about on a gloomy day for much of it but then there's also a pretty pop song on there? But yeah I need to dig it out ASAP. My copy's on Cherry Red, I believe...

Mike McGooney-gal, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoops, the Lida Husik cover is on Fly Stereophonic. xpost.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I appreciate the Monochrome Set every now and then, but can't quite get all excited about them. Five or Six on the other hand are one of my fave things ever. They did some really bizarre, scary, atmospheric music. I'm pretty sure I eventually found all their stuff on s1sk. Come to think of it I don't think I even owned or saw any of the records myself, just had folks tape 'em for me back in the the early 90's.

Bimble, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

always loved that interview excerpt that i can only paraphrase cuz i haven't heard it in a million years but something along the lines of:
"is it true that you are descended from Indian princes?"
"kings, actually."


Ha, yes, and:
"It's still, technically, an offence for the British Queen to step on my shadow."

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

desperately looking for a misplaced Lines record I came accross my Five or Six LP. It's called A Thriving and Happy Land, was recorded in london and holland, and came out on FrizzBee records, 1981. 7 songs, and weird as hell. Cover by Russell Mills, the style you'd expect from him, I wonder if this is one of his first sleeves?

dan selzer, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

i was really surprised to hear "he's frank" used on the tv show heroes last night...though i'm beginning to think i hallucinated it as no one else will confirm...

bell_labs, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Skot watches that show, surely. He'd know if that song was played!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i didn't see it! hope they got paid.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah that's what i said too!

bell_labs, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I’m dead and dank and rotten
My arms are wrapped in cotton
My corpse loves you, let’s marry
...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 April 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Bid Raggett

dell, Thursday, 10 April 2008 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

One of my favourite songs ever.

zeus, Thursday, 10 April 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Was some of the above referencing the Iggy Pop/Fatboy Slim cover of He's Frank? How weird...wonder how it'll do.

dlp9001, Saturday, 10 May 2008 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I'll pick up their new comp tomorrow

van smack, Saturday, 10 May 2008 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link

just checked iTunes, Heroes (Original TV Soundtrack) features Brighton Port Authority-He's Frank (With Iggy Pop).

That's wild.

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 May 2008 05:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay woah woah woah. That is a really weird ass Monochrome Set cover, that BPA.

Are you trying to tell me this is fucking Iggy Pop with...

god I'm really confused.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 10 May 2008 06:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Im conflicted about that cover - it still sounds a great song, but its not a particularly interesting cover.

Sandy Blair, Saturday, 10 May 2008 08:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't help but like it. I love Iggy, the song would be great no matter who does it, and the beats are catchy.

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 May 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I just want to know how it came about...Fatboy Slim's got a stack of Rough Trade singles? Iggy suggested it? Some producer somewhere told them about it?

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 May 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think it's that great a cover myself, though the original is mighty fine. Fatboy Slim had a lot of Rough Trade and postpunk stuff in his collection years ago and was clearly a fan of that era - so I'd suspect him of putting it all together. Iggy, not so much.

deedeedeextrovert, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i vividly remember hearing jet set junta on the western conn state univ radio station in about 1982, at the dawn of my musical awareness, and i never knew who it was by, and now i see its monochrome set. i only ever heard it once, but the tune would pop into my mind even 25 yrs later, most recently during an uruguay wc match.

exuding an aroma of lolz (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 June 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

where did you live that you got wxci? i owe that station soooooooo much. i heard so many things in the 80's for the first time on there. i still have early 80's tapes that i made of their broadcasts. the list of bands they taught me to love is almost endless. god bless them.

scott seward, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, ive seen you reference it over the years, i couldnt remember if i ever posted back to you on that. i was in wilton until 85. signal wasnt too clean, but it was enough to learn a lot.

exuding an aroma of lolz (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

my off-radio tapes were pretty shitty- bad signal xci and bad signal lir, but there were few record stores available to me and the other radio stations were.... kids today are spoiled you know, anything u want at the touch of a keyboard etc.

exuding an aroma of lolz (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link

my cousins lived in wilton back then. maybe you knew them. the howards. ash, amanda, holly. they were nice. not very new wave though.

scott seward, Sunday, 20 June 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

this is a band i never quite got round to checking out, but the samples of this new Early Recordings LP have whetted my appetite. is this Velvets-y sound typical of their later stuff too?

(+) (+ +), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

The Monochhttp://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPGset

dro™ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

If you didn't know, Bid suffered a aneurysmal subarachnoid haemorrhage at the end of July. About half the people who get those die, but he's doing all right. There will be a period of rehabilitation though. In the meantime, Scarlet's Well has been dissolved and the Monochrome Set will be starting up again at some point in the future. The new Monochrome Set will be a sort of Scarlet's Well/Monochrome Set hybrid band, the name change seeming to be more of a question of booking power and finance than an actual shift in musical direction.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

i honestly think i liked this song so much when it came out cuz it was just bargain bin monochrome set. never occurred to me until just now! bought the well well well EP and the first woodentops album just based on this song. turns out i just liked this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLBZKSQoEIM

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i think i first heard monochrome set in 83 or 84. fell instantly in love. well well well must have come out in 85?

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Awww, Woodentops are GREAT! Monochrome Set is much greater, however.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Just saw The Monochrome Set performing at Primavera Sound festival in Barcelona. It was really great, though there were a bit too much 90s stuff for me, but still, seeing Bid, Lester & Co was fantastic.

zeus, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 08:21 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Touring the States! Or a chunk therein:

27/05/13 - Bowery Electric, NYC, USA
28/05/13 - The Saint, Asbury Park, NJ, USA
29/05/13 - Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ, USA
30/05/13 - PhilaMOCA, Philadelphia, PA, USA
31/05/13 - NYC Popfest @ Knitting Factory, NYC, USA
01/06/13 - The Record Collector, Bordentown, NJ, USA

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty much the only reason I'd support the secession of Texas is so when somebody said a band I loved was touring my country there'd be a better than 1 in a 100 chance they're playing within 1000 miles of me.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

Eligible Bachelors is great! I dunno why it's not up there in the canon of stuff like Smiths, Go-Betweens, Aztec Camera etc?

I bet Clientele is huge fans

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 14:32 (eight years ago) link

"Volume, Contrast, Brilliance Vol. 2" just came out:
01 Something About You (1985)
02 I Wanna Be Your Man (1978)
03 Cilla Black (1983)
04 The Greatest Performance Artist In The World (1983)
05 Reach For Your Gun (1985)
06 Fly Me To The Moon (1978)
07 Love (1985)
08 Whoops! What A Palaver (1985)
09 I Want Your Skin (1989)
10 Stories From The Book Of Love (1986)
11 White Lightning (1987)
12 Wisteria (1987)
13 Bella Morte (1989)
14 Swing (1986)
15 Black Are The Flowers (1991)
16 Jack (1991)

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link

Wow, two new studio albums since Platinum Coils too... Super Plastic City and Spaces Everywhere! I love Bid so much.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

No tracklisting?

Who wants to split the cost with me, I'd go for the CD set at half that price in a heartbeat, you can have the LPs.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 22 December 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

Actually, I take it back. Here's the details:

https://shop.tapeterecords.com/the-monochrome-set-1979-1985-complete-recordings-boxset-preorder.html

That doesn't seem complete to me...?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 22 December 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

What's it missing? I don't have a record player.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 22 December 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link

this life is nowhere near as nice/
as suggested in the paintings of paradise/
so i would like refund from a monk or priest/
or an amalgamated beast

wrote like robyn and played and sung like ray. win. (from song "maisieworld")

Hunt3r, Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

oh shit the spirit of bimble is in me here but still more, a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJsuahBgWyk&feature=emb_logo

Hunt3r, Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/sJsuahBgWyk

Hunt3r, Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/W5K996oPoQU

this song from 86 sounds to me like drunk hitchcock doing a lounge song, but imitating bob dylan. it’s something.

Hunt3r, Saturday, 18 July 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

i've listened to a bit of Scarlets Well now. It ranges from Spongebob style mock sea chanteys to sophistipop mock sea chanteys to bid-in-hard-irony sea chanteys. on their faces, all the songs are credibly fine, but i seriously do not get what is happening with that smothering motif.

a month later i'm still listening to a lot of intermittent Maisieworld and Fabula Mendax.

I listened to Platinum Coils after my string of posts above. As a person who lived more than a couple months in a hospital for brain injury, it is my absolute favorite artistic commentary on brain injury recovery. ever. bid will be a hero of mine forever, just for going that hard on the experience. i still can't hardly write about it.

Post 2010:
Maisieworld>Fabula>>Spaces Everywhere>>>>Cosmonaut

i've not listened to Super Plastic City, except to the first song as I type this line. It's very in character but good, and now sea-chanteying. Will now investigate.

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link

"no sea-chanteying"

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link

hahaha, Scarlet's Well are probably my favorite band of all time the motif is essential!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 05:52 (three years ago) link

(I think the best approach is to proceed as if there is no mocking nor irony in Scarlet's Well)

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 06:07 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oji50pnUH_o

MaresNest, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 11:12 (one year ago) link

is that the drummer who quit them and so got a song that shaded him? ha i love this band but man that is pretty austere.

i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link


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