NME Top 100 British Albums Ever List

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21) Muse - Absolution 2003

I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Shit
2. Shit
3. Shit
4. Shit
5. Shit
6. Shit
7. Fucking Shit
8. Shit
9. Shit
10. Will this do?
11. This 17 year-old down the pub said she'd suck my cock if I put Northside in the Top 20
12. Utter Fucking Shit

'Curt' Russell (noodle vague), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

antony and the johnsons? he might have been born in england but that doesn't make that a british album.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

21) Muse - Absolution 2003
I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Mind you, this list is slightly original in one respect - 'OK Computer' isn't in the top 10. By now, I've started to expect to see Thom Yorke's face while watching 'The Best Ever 70's Disco Classics' or whatever.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

When did Geir start working at the NME?

The Bends > Ok Computer
Guitar, Melodies > Other shit

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe if we ignore lists, they will go away...

musically (musically), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

21) Muse - Absolution 2003
I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.

OTM!

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

...but not at 21, way too high

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The top 10 is obviously horrible and editorially focussed on music for disaffected British teenagers. Some interesting choices lower down which are a bit unexpected but it's probably too little too late. I guess it's not worth fussing over though, is it? How many of us here actually read the NME now?

Still - the Kaiser Chiefs would be nowhere near my top 100 albums of 2005 let alone all time!!

Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Another tip for the future:

Long urls behave exactly the same way as tinyurls when you click on them.

Nixonshead, Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"antony and the johnsons? he might have been born in england but that doesn't make that a british album."

Yes it does. For the purpose of that list anyways.

Harrison Barr (Petar), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong about Franz Ferdinand, but I have a sneaking suspicion of NME make a Top 100 UK albums of all time list in 10 years, Franz Ferdinand are not in the Top 20.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding the Cure, it's interesting that The Head on the Door is the album picked when over the years it has been Disintegration that most have said is their classic.

Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, the Beatles barely crack the top 10 and it's still stodgy and depressing. That is one hell of a feat.

disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 26 January 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I only used the ones I listen to, since I'm not objective about things:

1) The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. 1972
2) The Specials - S/T 1979
3) The Clash - London Calling 1979
4) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks 1978
5) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 1969
6) Led Zeppelin - II 1969
7) The Cure - The Head On The Door 1985
8) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 1971
9) The Beatles - Rubber Soul 1965
10) Polly Harvey - Dry 1992
11) The Stone Roses - S/T 1989
12) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 1978
13) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 1970
14) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 2003
15) Primal Scream - Scremadelica 1991
16) The Beatles - Revolver 1966
17) Elastica - S/T 1995
18-27) tie:

Led Zeppelin - IV 1971
The Futureheads - S/T 2004
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 1992 *
The Beta Band - The 3 E.P.s 1998
Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 1997
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars 1972
Portishead - Dummy 1994
The Who - My Generation 1965
Ride - Nowhere 1990
The Streets - Original Pirate Material 2002

Brian Jones (Brian Jones), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

85) ABC - The Lexicon of Love 1982

...

5) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006

I know it's a shameful thing to get angry at these lists, but I have to say that one stings.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.

-- Geir Hongro

*scratches head*

Then realizes where this comment is coming from so what can I say. That being said I wouldn't want Geir any other way!

Never thought the Cure would be compared to a very bad Oasis record.

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

84) Redskins - Neither Washington Nor Moscow... 1974 *

Hahaha, I'll give them "forgotten" on this one! Haven't heard of them since reading about them in NME in '86 or something (ie the year given here is way off). Is it really a "gem"? What an unsuspected choice.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link

It is a gem. Yes.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I looked at the magazine in tesco's yesterday. I only skimmed it though, the graphic design of it renders it nearly unreadable. They must have got the designer from "bang" in after "bang" folded. If I'd read it all I'd have got a headache.

Nothing about it (the list) is very surprising, really, is it?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link

There's some good things about the list - Zombies as high as #32 is good. Black Sabbath, Eno, Redskins are slight surprises. Why is Dare a 'forgotten gem'?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not THAT bad list it could have been. OK, no excuse for the Coldplay albums, and Arctic Monkeys in the Top 5, and so on, but the most of the albums listed are good. FULL STOP

Are The Undertones count Irish too?

zeus (zeus), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link

NME are Winston Smith in 1984, rewriting history to justify the present.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair (I know, God forbid) every list rewrites history, every new album reconfigures the music that went before, nicht war?

Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Zeus, the Undertones are from Northern Ireland so they would fit in this list.

Deluxe (Damian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Right Blur album.
Wrong Clash album.
Both 'Stones albums are the wrong ones.
WTF are Antony & The Johnsons doing in there? He's a bleedin' Septic innee?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Born in Cirencester.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

There's two Clash albums on that list.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Wrong Buzzcocks album. Joy Div albums wrong way round.

Also Hunky Dory as Bowie's best - uh? ( for me would come after Low/Heroes/Station/Ziggy/Lodger/Dogs/Young Americans/Aladdin in some sort of order)

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link

"Born in Cirencester."

I bow to your superior knowledge. Nevertheless 'though (according to AMG) he grew up in California and relocated to New York; but the name of the band and the guests he has on the album (Rufus Wainwright, Devendra Banhart, Lou "New York" Reed) are hardly condsive to producing something quintessentially British, are they?

"There's two Clash albums on that list."

Bugger, you're right, of course. OK then, the 1st / s/t one's OK; but London Calling most definitely isn't.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"Also Hunky Dory as Bowie's best - uh?"

I don't think it's necessarily supposed to be his best, merely his most British.... although, re-reading the rest of the list, maybe I'm assuming that the NME editorship would have actually bothered to give the subject a little bit of thought, when in fact this clearly isn't the case.... nevertheless, his most British album by absolute miles must surely be his 1st / self-titled / (aka) Love Me 'Til Tuesday?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Excuse me, folks, but what else do you expect from the NM-fuckin'-E but dumb list shit?

This is NME shit by numbers, pure and simple. CLOSE THREAD!

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link

wtfever to most of the list but i didn't think it was possible to write women out of pop music history even more than these lists normally do! and this has somehow done that!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Lists are what make ILM special...

Some of the defenders are right, there are good albums but no thought was put behind the order. I posted which decade these albums came out in for a reason. Rock was new in the 60's going into the 70’s so the best albums where from that period, period. There is no way the 90’s deserve 31 spots with the 2000’s having 15 spots so far (Kasier Chiefs?), so by the end this decade it will be the best decade ever? If you are a writer for a major publication, no matter how much you like the AM album, number 5 compared to history is ridiculous.

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Rock was new in the 60's going into the 70’s so the best albums where from that period, period.

That's a really bad argument. Best novels = written in 1740s? Best paintings = done on cave walls? Best movies = 5 minutes of a bloke washing a horse?

Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post to Lex)

True. Siouxsie (The Scream) should be in, along with The Raincoats (either s/t or Odyshape), The Slits maybe. Spice Girls? Who else?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Dusty perhaps? Sandy Denny w/ Fairport definitely.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know if it's that bad of an argument. I absolutely love new music it is what feeds my addiction but when I hear something like {fill in so many blanks} today's music cannot compare to what has already been done. My favorite album of the last five years or so is Funeral but if I put it up against Blonde on Blonde, Astral
Weeks, Ziggy Stardust
or even something 80’s like Darklands it's hard for me to defend the newer stuff. This is all personal opinion, which should be taken with a gain of salt of course.

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Wonder if this will spur someone into getting Jehovahkill reissued? Is is still OOP isn't it?

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Sure, it wasn't your taste I was querying, just the idea that older automatically equals better.

Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Having said that, first Teardrop Explodes is still a better record. (x-post)

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait there, no Astral Weeks? Wuh!

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

xxxpost. I thought of Dusty immediately but what LP. Dusty In Memphis and the Gamble and Huff stuff after it are her best I reckon, but hardly 'British'. Maybe A Girl Called Dusty or Dusty Definitely?

XTC should be in there : Black Sea prob. GO2 is better.

xpost Teardrop Explodes - YES!

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Apart from Loveless, which is a contentious geographical choice, the absence of Dusty In Memphis and Astral Weeks (he's from Belfast innit?) is appalling.
Still, the NME's Monkeys better than Beatles marketing ploy has worked. The Guardian has fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Even though they acknowledge this, they've still been hooked.
*Steve Sutherland sits rubbing his palms and cackling evilly.*

stew!, Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

No T-Rex! :o(

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

No T-Rex! :o(

OT(fucking)M

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link

'Remedy' is the best British album of the last 20 years.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I love the attempts to try and see the sense in this collection.

It's bullshit, undeserving of respect or serious consideration.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

The lack of OK Computer in the top 20 and the preponderance of britpop suggests to me that NME are going through one of their pro "classic song" cycles - is this correct?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

They need controversial picks to get people complaining about it which gets publicity and people will buy the issue.

Remember they included Andrew WK in their best albums list a few years back and White Stripes - Elephant was in it and that wasn't even out yet.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

According to NME, the Arctic Monkeys album is the 5th best album ever this week.

In half a year, it sucks bigtime and Arctic Monkeys is some shite bollocks that only sad wankers and old people (20 year-olds, that is) listen to.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I find myself agreeing with someone who thinks Pornography was overproduced :-/

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I just discovered I claimed "Pornography" was overproduced while what I wanted to say is "Disintegration" was.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, I get you now. Still WTFing on that Oasis jibe all the same.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Pornography" isn't overlong either. I used to dislike it before but it has grown me alot. Still prefer "Faith" and "17 Seconds" over it though, because Lol Tolhurst is going a bit too bananas on his drumset on "Pornography".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Maaaaaahhh chichilla. WEZ LEMON JELLY

wang aaaaaaaaah!, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Audiences sometimes vote for recent stuff, without caring about whether it will last or not. I thought professional writers should know better though.

Whether or not Arctic Monkeys, Libertines, Futureheads, Kaiser Chiefs belong in a list like this will be more obvious in 5-10 years time. By now, sure, put them at the bottom of the list, put give them some time before you rank them among the ten best albums ever.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus the fact that any list that doesn't have at least one Beatles album in the Top 3, plus 2-3 more Beatles albums in the Top 20, is pathetic.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I was about to agree with Geir then I got an x-post.
Lucky escape.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link


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