Crass: C or D?

"Sentiment (White Feathers)"
"Rival Tribal Revel Rebel"
"Shaved Women"
"Do They Owe Us A Living"
"Reality Asylum"

i've just done a mix for radio one's essential mix that includes 'bloody revolutions'.

http://www.minimovies.org/documentaires/view/crass/full%20movie

of course all it does is make me want more more MORE. so much info left out. so many people. so many other bands. john loder. the label. gigs. and on and on and on. and eve. come on, eve. why so shy? i want a ten hour mini-series, basically. these people are still alive and kicking and eventually none of them will want to talk about it anymore. and all the home movie footage and photos...and live show video...*sigh* i'm just greedy. (maybe a dvd release will have extras and a photo gallery...)

thanks for the link scott. will tune into that later this evening. what a frigging classic band.

Todays Metro, page 42 (recreated as I can't upload pics here)

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/29/article-1291044252286-09BC2652000005DC-822134_466x448.jpg
Crass: Cynthia Nixon, Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cattrall and Kristin Davis

I agree, Crass are totally classic. Your mother needs to be forced to listen to Crass. I think that even they rejected their extremism - also totally classic. No one owns you.

"Steve Ignorant's Crass" is playing here in March. Tickets go on sale Friday. I will prob. buy one…

Oh god, has it come to that?

It's been to that since at least 2007.

http://www.punk77.co.uk/anarcho_punk/steve_ignorant_interview_2007.htm

Better Steve fronting a Crass covers band than nobody from Crass doing the same. I was ~15 and probably grounded/broke/had no ride the last time Stratford Mercenaries came through SoCal.

is it better? really?

i don't think its better. even had my qualms about that double live conflict album way back when. they did crass songs with steve on that. didn't they? but, you know, whatever, my standard line is that people, obviously, can do whatever they want. didn't see any of the subhumans reunion shows either. i'm sure its all fun for people.

You mean Turning Rebellion Into Money, yeah they did Crass songs on that. Steve Ig was in Conflict at the time.

I don't really see what the problem is tbh. He isn't performing *as* Crass. They're (partly) his songs and he can do what he wants with them afaic.

I mean over the last decade have been to Conflict, Subhumans, Flux Of Pink Indians, Disrupters, Zounds, Rubella Ballet, Lost Cherrees etc etc reunion gigs and will probably end up going to this as well.

his other band played live, right? scharzenegger? i'm sure they must have done crass songs in their set. see, that seems perfectly fine with me. like if dick pulled out some subhumans songs at a citizen fish show.

love steve in the pub in that crass documentary. love him, in general.

co sign

i think if you are into it, it's fine. its not like i have a big problem. i went and saw the pretty things and mission of burma and chameleons over the years. it's just...you know, crass ended things so poetically. and they are crass. its just kinda anti-crass.

do they owe us a reunion?
course they facking do

i like steve in that too but i side w/ penny rimbaud on this in that its pretty lame. reminds me of the d.k. tour sans jello or jerry only's misfits

maybe ending things was un-crass-y tho, like crass is a feeling and it can just carry on at will?

i sang tube disaster on stage with nausea once. thats as close as i came to a flux show.

I think Stratford Mercenaries did a couple of Crass songs, the band he had after Schwarzeneggar.

Citizen Fish and the Subhumans are pretty much the same band! One different member iirc?

Anyway we are ignoring the big anarcho issue at the moment, which is Colin Jerwood allegedly ripping off royalties from Crass via the above live album! Ooh err.

i just want PENIS ENVY: THE MUSICAL

lyle preslar's minor threat

left wing SBs right wing SBs all the fucking same

I nearly went to see Springa Sings Decontrol a couple of years ago but that tour got cancelled.

what was the thing in the crass doc about celebs wearing bootleg crass shirts? was it beckham? that was funny but kinda sad

i still have a crass shirt from the 80's. dunno if its legal. probably not.

Pretty sure any Crass t-shirt is a bootleg

oh right they would be...

plus i always felt kinda funny wearing it back then anyway. cuz it says jesus died for his own sins not mine. which isn't something i ever really thought or cared about. and its not something i would want to get into a fight about.

its funny that they created a brand and logo that was so enticing to people that people would buy ANYTHING with the crass name on it. or ironic or whatever. they were amazing advertising/marketing people. they could have made millions.

hey, POO, click on the 24 HOURS OF HARDCORE link:

http://www.americanhardcorebook.com

i gotta devote a day to those MP3s!

Pretty sure any Crass t-shirt is a bootleg

Weren't they always about the "make your own"?

As opposed to "make loads then sell them, loadsamoney" obv.

Well yeah, I meant any Crass t-shirt that someone buys, not made their own.

I know, it was more that at the time, they couldn't be seen to be profiting from "fan worship" i.e. T-Shirt sales. LP sales/ticket sales are a different matter, however...

POO, did you check that link out?

its funny that they created a brand and logo that was so enticing to people that people would buy ANYTHING with the crass name on it. or ironic or whatever. they were amazing advertising/marketing people. they could have made millions.

^this x [some big number], see also Black Flag - have been saying this for quite a few years but yeah I think anyone who is *surprised* that bands like this and a lot of general HC/anarcho iconography ends up in large clothing stores etc isn't really thinking hard enough

I think if you'd told them *at the time*, they'd have thought you mad. But when you'd convinced them, they'd have been stuck as to what to do about it.

Scott - yeah I did, hadn't seen that before (although I have watched the movie) - tbh I have 4 days of hardcore on my ipod, bunch of amateurs if you ask me.

what was the thing in the crass doc about celebs wearing bootleg crass shirts? was it beckham? that was funny but kinda sad

Think I've seen a picture of Angelina Jolie in one.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DTzg0q3TE0E/S1CmqAP2hqI/AAAAAAAAAPs/7NdMxR_1O0A/s400/jolie2pt.jpg

You've not heard her version of "Fuck is wimmin's money" then?

I still have the free sew-on patch that came with "Nagasaski Nightmare". I wimped out of getting my mum to sew it on my jacket.

Sometimes I miss Crass.

Christ: The Album is classic

This has been doing the rounds on acid techno FB today - a great long read on the links between anarchism-punk and dance music, centred around Crass:

https://undeleted.wordpress.com/crass-go-disco/

Damn autocorrect… anarcho-punk even

amazing oral history, thanks for the link. I would buy that as a book.

at what point should you go to bed? is it when you're yelling "of course they do of course they do" at your elderly cat? he doesn't seem to mind

4 of Crass did a talk somewhere in London this week which I didn't go to. did anyone else?

I also noted that Eve Libertine did a performance this week with a trans musician backing her. I know it shouldn't be that notable but at the moment I will grab onto any kind of trans-positivity as a sign that not everyone my age and older is a cunt.

good on her, would love to hear about the talk!

i want that new book so bad! but it is $$$ and i think i have to get it from the U.K. only? which means extra shipping $$ too.

my friend who is an old boston skin went to see steve play in Boston not too long ago. he said it was awesome. i was a little jealous. he got a nice photo with steve too.

xp ooh I hadn't heard about that, looks awesome, and yeah UK shipping will be a lot

this episode of the digging with flo podcast is a great listen, a chat with penny about gardening and other things at dial house:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digging-with-flo-penny-rimbaud/id1692225522?i=1000644324800

it's on Spotify etc too btw