Faith No More: most underrated rock band of the 90s?

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"But I think that most of you are arguing for the sake of arguing. And that's just boring. "

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Rap/metal btw hardly constitutes the majority of FNM songs. All you're doing Kim is babbling on about the hits your remember- your entire judgement is based on a few examples. The insulting nature of your posts indicate that you're not very intelligent, or at the very least not used to debate of any kind. BTW: I'm well aware of what was floating around at the time thank you very much. Suicidal Tendencies, Aerosmith/Run DMC, and yes even the beloved In Living Color, do not hold a candle to what FNM was doing. FNM was NOT about combining rap with metal. Get it through your head.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Totally Pauly
aw man, that show was completely blacked out of my memory. Thanks a lot. grrrr...

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

In Living Color was a tv show on Fox, brain surgeon.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Does Kim always argue with this quasi-religious conviction? Or is this new?

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm trying to think of a song where Patton raps...and I'm drawing a blank.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

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and yes even the beloved In Living Color

"Homie don't play dat!"

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Because that stuff he's doing in "Epic" isn't it.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG, I made a slip! I said "In Living Color" rather than Living Colour Christ, slit my throat. Are you this manic in real life? Who do you think your are?

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Mr. Big Stuff

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....Epic isn't rapping? are you on drugs, son?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean it's not very good rapping, but still

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I like how big assumptions about my private life somehow come into a debate on a rock band.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm sure you fire a lot of blanks, Johnny. Or so I've heard.

How about all of Epic? Oh, and btw, I was a casual fan of FNM back in the day, so it's not like I have a grudge against them, or anything. Just drawing a line in the sand. You say they were innovative, I say they weren't.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

'Lifetime'/'Dust' = 'Presence'/'Graffiti'

― dave q, Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Epic" may be bad rapping (by today's standards, at least) but it's still rapping.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's essentially the point I was trying to make. I don't think you can be a rap/metal hybrid band if your frontman can't rap (the same rules apply to RATM).

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

but in my opinion they deserved to be U2 big

They were......in Prague.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that fish in the "Epic" video was a good dancer. For a fish.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

the pre-chorus to "Falling to Pieces" has the bad rapping as well.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

What's innovative then?

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"I don't think you can be a rap/metal hybrid band if your frontman can't rap (the same rules apply to RATM)."

well, under those terms, there is no such thing as rap/metal. It just doesn't exist.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

KIM OTM FER CHRISSAKES

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

What's innovative then?

-- James Slone (freontrotsk...), July 22nd, 2004.

Dancing fish!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

So what, three songs on one album feature inept rapping and suddenly FNM is rap-metal?

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the most pathetic discussion i think I've had on the internet to date.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

and it's all your fault, sunshine.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link

you only say that because you're losing the argument, Jimmy.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not even arguing. I'm just stirring the pot.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I think it's the maniac Kim and her dogmatic approach to argument. One, I should add, that doesn't measure up against the evidence. Anyone who calls FNM rap-metal hasn't heard much of their overall material. That's an empirical fact.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

It's an empirical fact that you need yourself a massage with some happy ending, pal. Spring a few bucks, then come back here and start making some fucking sense.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

What argument? There's an argument here? All I see is someone who tries to use cheap insult to further an argument built on subjective tastes.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, that's it. Fuck you.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Kim = Rog?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

took you long enough, rocket surgeon.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Weren't Faith No More lumped into "Funk Metal" at the time?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"an argument built on subjective tastes"

You just described every post in every thread on ILM, EVER!!!!

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

took you long enough, rocket surgeon.

I wasn't used to you using a handle that wasn't already someone else's.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a wacky son of a bitch, dude.

― KimberIy, Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah trolls. Good show.

― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, that's it. Fuck you.
I love it when you talk dirty, pookie.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 22 July 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Faith No More
-Innovative? Yes. Quite obviously. Mixing up a lot of song styles (more than just rap and metal) and structures in many different ways.
-Good? Nope. They didn't make any songs I particularly liked.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

who are all these people?? ps "Album of the Year" is the best one!!!

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

They ain't no Linkin Park

― artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

This is definitely the worst thread ever.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 22 July 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

woode-mummas boosoom swell wit pride

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 22 July 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Christ, for a minute there I thought I'd wondered into some kind of crazy alternative universe where Faith No More paved the way for Linkin Park and Papa Roach. Thank goodness it was all a dream!

― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Detachable Penis = King Missile is/was "mainstream"

― Knuckles the Dog (Knuckles), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link

And you were there... and you were there... and most of the Alex-s....

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 July 2004 08:40 (nineteen years ago) link

horray for rap metal

― dude crazy?, Thursday, 22 July 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

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guess he kicked them off a bill, but seems like patton took it pretty hard, including covering them in a mock fashion

― kolakube (Ross), Friday, 12 January 2018 05:43 (six years ago) link

As I understand it, Anthony Kiedis wasn't too thrilled when he saw the video to 'Epic' (he felt Patton was copping his look, moves and vocal style) and nor was he too thrilled about Mr Bungle putting out an album called California at the same time as Californication was out. Mr Bungle ended up getting kicked off a lot of festivals and subsequently found out that the reason why was Kiedis had threatened to pull RHCP from the line-ups if Mr Bungle played. Patton and co. were obviously furious, and I'm sure this is what actually led to the Halloween RHCP piss-take gig.

― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Friday, 12 January 2018 06:55 (six years ago) link

Story I heard was that Bungle came up with the name Californication, Keidis was told it by one of the band or something and nicked it for the Chilis album, so Bungle had to call theirs the much more boring California. Read that on the internet ages ago so may be misremembered/totally inaccurate.

― chap, Friday, 12 January 2018 10:38 (six years ago) link

Patton hates the Chillis because he has ears and a brain

― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 12 January 2018 10:39 (six years ago) link

I don't think I had any concept of this feud when it was first popping off. Didn't read those interviews in Kerrang or whatever. But this quote is great.

I'd really like to set all that straight. What he doesn't realize is that I am Anthony Kiedis, and I'm the raddest dude. Let me tell you, I'm in the greatest band, and it's so cool. But all these jerks, one of which is that Mike Patton asshole, all want to be me. So I'm gonna get him, and I'm gonna get him good. - Mike Patton 1990

I sure hope that Bungle didn't want to name California Californication, because Californication is one of the stupidest words I've ever heard.

― how's life, Friday, 12 January 2018 11:39 (six years ago) link

Thanks for all the great info

― kolakube (Ross), Friday, 12 January 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link

The real early video of one of Faith No More's first performances of Epic (@4:15) is a lil Keidisy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxv1gzId2Fk

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 January 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

Also, I love Chuck, but I do always like when Patton does "Crab Song"

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 January 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

I love Chuck but I think p much all Patton's versions of Chuck songs beat the originals. Chuck was never really a singer, by his own admission.

Anne's Song is still probs my favourite FNM song though, and no one else should ever sing it.

― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 12 January 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

Since we're posting videos, this is def my favorite FNM live clip. Love the post-reunion feel of a tight 4-piece with Patton kind of soloing like a jazz musician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1x_4keMigs

― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 January 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

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