Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young: C/D, S/D

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David Crosby is obviously a guy with some problems, but he wrote a handful of really amazing melodic songs. Deja Vu has a great arrangement, that last part is almost if Steve Reich was writing a pop song. Wooden Ships is also a really lovely tune and it has pretty morbid lyrics for such a good melody.

I got to see them on a free ticket a few years ago and I was really amazed by how well they can hit those harmonies live.

Hating on CSNY is like making fun of your ex-hippy uncle that teaches middle school.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 9 July 2006 03:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Bobby Brown "Enlightening Beam Of Axonda"

thats really good then? i always look at it in the store but am suspicious of it. maybe its the book cover packaging

CSNY is pretty great and I've been wanting to check out "If I Could Only Remember My Name" for awhile now

XD (eman), Sunday, 9 July 2006 05:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I've only ever heard their half-dozen most familiar songs; and of those, "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" is the only one I really like. But that's a good one indeed, with the highly rhythmic rockin' acoustics and the "Doo doo doo"s riding the song out to the finish. And that's about all there is. (Never even liked "Helpless" either.)

Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Sunday, 9 July 2006 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link

All I can say is I dare any of you to play 'Looking Forward' in its entirety. A whopper of a stinker, even given the rest of their anemic output

People be saying crazy things.

marc h. (marc h.), Sunday, 9 July 2006 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I would say they are classic for those two first albums (including the CSN one). Of course, the rest are dud.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

but of course

flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Sunday, 9 July 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i picked up the nash/crosby album last night and it's pretty ace. between immersing myself in that and those crosby mp3's and what not it's been a pretty awesome weekend.

gear (gear), Sunday, 9 July 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

No thread just on Graham Nash, so I thought I'd just revive this instead.

I'm listening to Songs For Beginners and it's gorgeous. I can't get enough of the group of musicians surrounding CSNY around 1970, including Garcia, Lesh, Grace Slick, and so on; the PERRO thing. This record is part of this group. "I Used To Be A King" is a highlight.

Evidently Nash has a retrospective box set coming out later this year. Does anyone know anything else about this?

And did any of you pick up the Crosby box last year? And was it any good? I love the outtakes from "If I Could Only Remember My Name" (linked to earlier in this thread), but evidently these didn't come out on the box. I'd love a box of just the PERRO stuff.

Euler, Friday, 25 July 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

and i'm listening to the self titled crosby/nash and there have been moments where i've literally had to stop writing/reading and just listen because they're so beautiful

Yes - this is a really really good record and I don't know anything at all about the rest of the CSNY universe. Search "Immigration Man" if nothing else.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 26 July 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ha. i was reading that quote right above ^ and thought i could've written it, and i did! been listening to that album again a lot lately

jaxon, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

just picked up the '77 CSN album. so good. Dark Star is a fucking stormer

jaxon, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

cathedral would make a good movie song

CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i bought "wild tales" by graham nash for $1 a couple months ago, it's pretty great.

omar little, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

someone upthread says that the harmonies on "Helpless" ruin the song, but I think it's the piano that's the problem. Turns Neil's raw lament into something sort of sickly sweet.
have been listening to a bootleg of a stills/young show from 76 that is interesting. even though young was reported to not be into the tour, he sounds kind of in to it here, singing backup enthusiastically on suite judy blue eyes. it's stills' band, so it's got a weird jimmy buffet cocaine vibe at times. but i kind of dig it.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 August 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I love this footage, extraordinary, young (I mean in years) and at their peak (no lsd pun intended):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QsSc95pPPY

It'll melt your face, dude!

thirdalternative, Thursday, 7 August 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

"Simple Man" off of Nash's Songs for Beginners is such a beautiful little tune. I haven't really gotten into the rest of the album much yet.

There's a youtube clip floating around of Nash singing it unaccompanied on piano until Crosby creeps up on stage to add those incredible harmonies- gorgeous stuff.

ColinO, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Was just listening to this unreleased CSNY track from 1974 -- "Pushed It Over The End", which is pretty killer. Weird jazzy vibe, pretty different from the only other version I've heard of it, which is a Neil Young solo acoustic live thing. Not sure if anything they did really sounds like this ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up. xp

rent, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

God, when they were on, so classic:

thirdalternative, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up.

I would pay to produce this film.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd chip in some cash too ...
That clip above is pretty much where they peaked I think! Pretty rad. I've heard some pretty intolerable bootlegs of CSNY though. Mainly Stills' fault I think.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

that 'deja vu' record is kind of nice, but is distinctly lacking a unified personality. a little bit sugary at times, could perhaps do with some more grit and unharnessed soul-searching.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link

you crazy, mang. he almost CUT HIS HAIR.

hologram of balls (gnarly sceptre), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

edd hurt otm way up there at the tippy-top: "pre-road downs" is A++.

i only have the first two and enjoy both but rarely listen to either. i'm probably partial to deja-vu tho.

came across a really good copy of that first Manassass record the other day for cheap and have been pleasantly surprised. i never thought i'd have much use for stills outside of BS or CSN& sometimes Y

extremely intoxicated & uncooperative outside a Hסּסּters in Winston-Salem (will), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up. xp

― rent, Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:54 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol!! time's up in the shower? or like, on earth? because if that fat bastard snuck up on me in the shower i would certainly hope that all my worldly affairs were in order.

extremely intoxicated & uncooperative outside a Hסּסּters in Winston-Salem (will), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

oh yes he's is a psychokiller. maybe blows a puff of cocaine from his cupped hand and whispers "deja vu, bitch" or something. haven't had much time to work on it tbh.

rent, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"Almost cut YOUR THROAT!"

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"Why can't we go on as three---you, me, and the Grim Reaper?"

Euler, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"Almost cut YOUR THROAT!"

^^^PRINT IT

rent, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

haha. Nash could probably be his murderous sidekick, too. "Teach your children ... TO DIE."

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Your grave will be a very very very fine grave.

Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Shit- this Crosby movie pitch is cracking me right the fuck up.

You could have the obligatory teen horror sex scene with "Triad" playing in the background, the girls refusing his advances before he murders them. "WHY CAN'T WE GO ON AS THREE!"

ColinO, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

it's rich territory it's true

rent, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I can see the poster now:

HIS HARMONIES WILL ENTRANCE YOU.

HIS BULK WILL CRUSH YOU.

Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"What's Happening?!?!"

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 7 January 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

songs for beginners is so fucking catchy, love every song. i think the songs ppl have mentioned they love in this thread so far are simple man and i used to be a king. my fave is prob man in the mirror

wilter, Thursday, 5 March 2009 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

military madness also owns

wilter, Thursday, 5 March 2009 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

finally picked up 'songs for beginners' the other night for $1. it's incredible. sitting here listening to it and just zoning out.

u have a new mistress my friend and her name is little debbie (omar little), Saturday, 16 May 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I was really enjoying the CSN debut last night until the thought popped into my mind: "What's next, Bread?"

Brad C., Saturday, 16 May 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

I'm enjoying Looking Forward this morning, esp. the NY and Crosby songs, but wow are Stills' songs duds here. "Hard rock" guitars or "Latin" beats + and Stills' bleating = wreck. But if you enjoy latter day NY, this is on the whole worth your time.

Euler, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:01 (fourteen years ago) link

some sort of Graham Nash tribute album coming out in a few months featuring lots of current psych/freak/etc bands, with some really nice names involved.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

search "Helplessly Hoping" off the CSN debut: that album has its ups & downs (I think I've internalized NY's relationship with Stills) but this song is a very high up.

Euler, Friday, 17 September 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA00VNhlnHQ

thirdalternative, Monday, 10 January 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i would like to see a short film where david crosby creeps up on people singing in the shower and adds harmonies from the other side of the curtain and that's how they know their time is up.
has this movie been made yet or what

tylerw, Monday, 10 January 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

been really into the 4-Way Street double-live album lately (which the above clip might be from or at least the same Deja Vu tour). so great

Mangrove Earthshoe (herb albert), Monday, 10 January 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Unfortunately that movie hasn't been made yet but I think this is the video that inspired the idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfycUkxbnlk

thirdalternative, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I really like Stephen Stills lead playing on Wooden Ships. It has this really warm neck pickup sound with a bunch of tone rolled off, kind of a rock and roll jazz box sound which really fits in nice in the tune.

earlnash, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

The movie poster:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/rolling-stone/63-1.jpg

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I listened to the "CSN" album the other day and actually find it rather fine. It may not be as essential as the first couple of albums, but it's still a nice late 70s softrock effort.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

how about a female singer? Oh, right -- these guys were pigs.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

Mama Cass? She didn't write songs though. But how about Dave Mason?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 July 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

how about a female singer? Oh, right -- these guys were pigs.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

right, i mean, we're assuming that they're basically pigs, also, we start getting women involved and crosby/stills are pretty quickly outclassed

mike patto might be interesting. dave mason! yeah, that's definitely gotta be it, it'd have to be dave mason in that role.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 22 July 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Duh, Mike Love.

Although in reality it would have been Stills' buddy Peter Tork.

Richie Furay would have fitted in pretty well but then it would just have been Buffalo Springfield.

Tom D: panel beater, bouncer and tree surgeon (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

Rick James

calstars, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

the thing is that Nash’s voice is a really vital component of their gorgeous awesome vocal harmonies… Dave mason sounds too much like stills, imo

brimstead, Friday, 22 July 2022 21:38 (one year ago) link

Art Garfunkel actually substituted for Crosby on CSN albums for awhile.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 July 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link

Crosby, Stills, Parsons, and Garfunkel

calstars, Friday, 22 July 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link


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