The Residents: C/D;S&D

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OUR POOR OUR TIRED OUR HUDDLED MASSES is a 2-CD anthology that goes backwards chronologically (with a few jumps back to the future)(1996-1981 on Disc I; 1980-1972, Disc II), and just gets better and better! They must know this--musn't they? Their funniest mystery, that I know of. Iespecially like Eskimo Concentrate, a mix of that album's highlights; and also Fingerprince Concentrate (an album that UK punks liked, at least according to the annotator) Third Reich 'n' Roll Concentrate, plus tracks from Duck Stab/Buster+Glen, etc. I also thought they seemed like more of a band in the first decade, and I like the tracks from THE COMMERCIAL ALBUM, and note that their emthod of getting airtime by buying it (for commercials) is basically what 'independant promoters" did, especially with major label product, in 90s-00s, although Clear Channel claims to have stopped accepting such payments.

don, Friday, 7 January 2005 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The strangest (and certainly the most irritating) thing about Our Poor Our Tired Our Huddled Masses is that the sleeve notes spend pages going on and on and on about the band's legendary and incredibly rare first single, "Santa Dog", and then immediately proceed to not include the the sodding thing on the comp., not even on the extended 4CD EuroRalph version!

Of course if the collection had been compiled more recently and included material from Demons Dance Alone and Wormwood (and also didn't fail to include anything from the God In Three Persons album, which is a strangely indefensible omission too imho) it might help to remedy the impression of the material gradually deteriorating in quality as you move backwards though time.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 7 January 2005 09:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The liner notes do go on and on about that, yeah, and in general fit with the how-intentional-is-this bit mentioned aboove. But Stewart, your opinion is the reverse of mine: you think it gets *worse as goes backwards? So how would more recent music correct this impression, as you suggest? Is the more recent music so bad it makes the older stuff look better? From what I've heard of their more recent, I'd agree with you, in the sense that it would make the older sound *even better (too bad the very first WB-aimed demo, cited by Milton above, isn't here at the very end; might be best of all, is the logical implication of this comp as heard by me)

don, Friday, 7 January 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

there's a 'WB Album Concentrate' floating around on the web, apparently assembled by fans... I've never heard it unfortunately, would like to.

I love the Concentrates on Our Huddled Masses (especially the one for Reich). The editing in some places is so dense that they almost qualify as new pieces. In any case the 4 CD version is worth $60 for the 15 minute excerpt from Baby Sex alone.

(Jon L), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

how coincidental.
When presenting a radio special on the residents (way before Our Huddled Masses ), chronologically presenting material from latest back to earliest seemed the right strategy for sufficiently more extreme and exciting radio, for build-up, for taking people to a place they could maybe only get to via the comparatively normal digital stuff.

george gosset (gegoss), Saturday, 8 January 2005 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

one of my best friends here in Nashville is a Residents freak, so I've endured them plenty. I do have "Commercial Album" and it's pretty good, and I actually like their version of "Viva Las Vegas" on their Elvis record.

That said, I think they're awful--I mean I have respect for anyone trying to do anti-music, and they succeed. But I don't mean it as a compliment; it's not only anti-music but anti-anti-music. I find them very, very puerile, and their later stuff seems infused with some sort of melancholia I don't think they earn at all. My buddy here listens to a lot of stuff I don't like, many things I do, and he's always draggin' out the Residents or the Firesign Theater (not the classic '60s stuff but their later shit, which is just actively unfunny). And I feel the same way about the Residents--they're not funny, their videos are totally geeky (except for the very early short ones), they're a total one-joke band. That whole thing with the eyeballs is just totally lame, they should've stopped that shit years ago. I think they're from Shreveport or somewhere--well, I say Louisiana's pop combo John Fred and His Playboy Band were both more avant-garde and certainly more listenable.

However, I kinda like "Eskimo," in a way; but none of it is anything I listen to for pleasure

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 8 January 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

as time goes on there's a greater 'succeed or fail' element to each successive residents project, anything new carrying the risk of comparison to classic original residents, 2 person residents, digital vs. analog, etc., any past residents stuff. I just think of all the work over the years as

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 9 January 2005 10:22 (nineteen years ago) link

pray continue

Bumfluff, Sunday, 9 January 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago) link

roadworms was rad

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, Eddie, they (the original they, anyway) are from Shreveport. When the relaunched villagevoice.com finally gets its whole archive back online, it should include the Primus review in which I comment on their Residents infuence/connection, and that experience (which I share with them) of struggling with a sense of isolated, reactionary origins. So rebellion and idealism can be tainted with a degree of keejerking against the original local overlord kneejerks. Even kneejerking *with the originals, ultimately. So the later Residents seem to buy into an oppressively overblown defintion of Real Art, not very different from the Biz Ideal they once rebelled against. Not to songle them out too much; "hardcore punks" could and can be just as reductive, for instance. And the Residents were inspirational to some underground bands of 80s Middle and East Europe (even after they heard other stuff!)

don, Sunday, 9 January 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

"Louisiana's pop combo John Fred and His Playboy Band were both more avant-garde and certainly more listenable."

Not to mention funnier. The Residents couldn't pull off "Judy in Disguise" if their eyeballs depended on it.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

"funnier" seems wrong. More funny? Anyway none of the Residents parodies tickle my bones but ah, that probably isn't the point. Actually I've been approaching Frank Zappa lately, very cautiously, after a lifetime of avoidance. Maybe I'll end up a Residents head.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

zappa and residents are like the best music ever

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"they're a total one-joke band"

Obviously, they had a certain style. But that's an easy (and inaccurate) criticism that someone might make about any comedians that they didn't happen to like. I mean, if someone didn't like the Marx Brothers, couldn't they make the same allegation?

It's not true of the Residents, anyway. Just thinking of the first album, "Boots" is not the same joke as "Smelly Tongues," which is not the same joke as "Rest Aria," which is not the same joke as "Spotted Pinto Bean," which is not the same joke as "Seasoned Greetings," etc.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 9 January 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"Stewart, your opinion is the reverse of mine: you think it gets *worse as goes backwards?"

No, sorry, I just expressed myself badly - I think / agree that (with the notable exception of the album God In Three Person, which isn't represented on the comp.) there is a distinct overall downward trend between about 1980 and 1997 (when Our Tired Our Poor Our Huddled Masses came out)

"So how would more recent music correct this impression, as you suggest?"

I think 1998's Wormwood and 2002's Demons Dance Alone are major returns to form both in terms of both quality and "relevance" (or, at least, contemporaneity).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 January 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, there seems to be some deep dissatisfaction and angst beneath the later Residents recordings. As to the question of "one-joke," I mean the joke seems to be this singer drawling tunelessly over basic synthed-out non-melodic/rhythmic stuff, which just doesn't make me re-imagine the original stuff they cover or want to figure out what their "originals" mean. I guess I want more skill along with my insanity here, some reference point that shows the Residents are actually engaging with something rather than just making sloppy anti-music for whatever audience it is they have.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 10 January 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

well, they're not for everyone, but don't make the mistake of thinking their audience is only listening because they think it's a joke. 60% of why I listen to the Residents are their melodies, and much of the material 1972-1980 is in fact very difficult to play.

Early tapes make it clear that they actually can play instruments, they just made a point of taking instrumental technique apart at the exact moment the rest of pop was calcifying into stadium rock gloss & empty virtuosity. Taking the formulas of glossy, shallow pop, and making it all gloriously ugly and wrong, but still recognizable. And sometimes, so utterly, bafflingly wrong that it comes out far more mysterious and beautiful.

Beautiful Residents: Not Available, Eskimo and "Six Things To A Cycle", the main theme of which is probably my favorite thing they've ever done.

(Jon L), Monday, 10 January 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

not to flog the dead horse but Cutler's article on the Residents is worth reading if you're still tempted to write the music off as a joke

http://www.theresidents.co.uk/articles/books/art_cutler.html

(Jon L), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, that Cole Gagne book, Sonic Transports, is great. It's divided into four sections: one on the Residents, one on Fred Frith, one on Glenn Branca, and one on "Blue" Gene Tyranny. Horribly out of print, I'd imagine.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link

'animal lover' is possibly the worst album i've ever heard

a, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Tell us more (including, if possible, some idea of what other albums you've heard and like / dislike).

An extraordinarily large number of people have described Trout Mask Replica as ".... possibly the worst album I've ever heard"; so it's entirely possible that - at least as far as I'm concerned - your description may be the highest possible accolade.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim! Please say more about Sonic Transports; that's really an interesting lineup (FOUR LIVES IN THE BEYOND BUSINESS?)

don, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Sonic Transports is a great read, very personal overviews followed by interviews of the artists (excepting, of course, the Residents). A massive senior thesis blown up into an independently published volume (8x11 typewritten pages, bound). The Blue Gene Tyranny chapter is still kind of the definitive study, many more details on the work than in other places (though William Duckworth's interview in Talking Music comes close)

It goes for upwards of $50 used when you can find it these days, I should have xeroxed my friend's copy...

http://www.rzweb.org/books/sonic.html

(Jon L), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks! So what is his main point re Residents?

don, Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

just kind of a comprehensive study of the work... I remember it being nice to read detailed cross-references to specific works by both the Residents and Harry Partch from someone who was obviously intimately familiar with both

(Jon L), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Stewart - I haven't managed to make it past song number four yet... but list of complaints = awful songs, awful lyrics, awful concept. Incredibly irritating in every way. I'm a fairly hardened listener, so it's not too 'experimental'/out there for me (re: the Cptn Beefheart comparison). It just seems to be lazy, purile crap. (yes yes, I know I've only listened to a fragment of it so I'm being hypocritical, but it's so unbearable).

40-something rock critics are loving the album though, so who knows. (I don't think most Residents fans are 21 years old.)

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, and other albums I've heard - Commercial Album and Eskimo. Like Eskimo, don't like Commercial Album. I'm not interested in the Residents at all, so you can basically completely disregard my opinion.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Aaaah well, I am 40-something but I'm not a rock critic and I prefer The Commercial Album to Eskimo so who knows what I'll make of it, if the sodding thing ever actually arrives.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 24 February 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Thoughts on Animal Lover. Current street date (US) is early April.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 24 February 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't heard it, don't want to and don't intend to, so consider my opinion even more inconsequential than usual. But a lotta folks are of the same opinion as me and have written as much: that their older stuff, with the much more primitive synth technology, was more inventive and unique and just plain INTERESTING to listen to. I think it was a mistake to switch their emphasis from "music" to "concepts". But of course, that's just following the lead of the writers who write about the band, extra-musical stuff being easier to get a grip on, and sexier.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 24 February 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

one full listen later: this album is a complete and utter piece of shit, and I can honestly say anyone who enjoys it is kidding themselves.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

it sounds like the worst school play you've ever been to.
or something you'd make in music class when you were 14.
there's hardly any detectable reference to the theme.
I really think this copy is a giant joke - I read they'd delayed the release date to make "major changes". I don't see how anyone could agree to release this. it's really THAT BAD.

a, Thursday, 24 February 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I do halfway like their version of
"Viva Las Vegas" on "The King and I."

Because I have a great friend/Residents fanatic whose musical taste is very different from mine but with whom I share a lot of likes, I've heard a ton of Residents music over the years. I still find it, no matter how eloquently he defends it, puerile.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 25 February 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

".... their older stuff, with the much more primitive synth technology, was more inventive and unique and just plain INTERESTING to listen to. I think it was a mistake to switch their emphasis from "music" to "concepts"."

I think you're probably right - indeed, I suspect that the reason the last couple of Residents' projects (Wormwood, Demons Dance Alone) have shown such a long overdue return to form is that they did seem to have stopped trying to produce all-singing all-dancing fully-integrated multi-media conceptual arts projects, and were just concentrating on making music for it's own sake again.

Let's hope Animal Lover doesn't represent a step in the wrong direction.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Duck Stab is my favorite piece of music in the entire world. I own it on a 3" CD.
"Here I come, Constantinople. I am coming, Constantinople."

Besides Buster and Glen (have it also on a 3 incher in the euro ralph 2fer) I haven't really heard anything else. What do I need NOW? Is this the catchiest stuff? I really have no idea. To me it's THE monolith of fucked avant rock.

The Commercial Album sounds interesting...

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Duck Stab / Buster and Glen are indeed catchiest. You probably do want the Commercial Album next if that's the criterion.

But if you're loving this, you can't go wrong with any of the albums released 1980.

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

released _before_ 1980

Fingerprince, Not Available, Third Reich and Roll -- 100% guarenteed

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks duder.

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I had this as a combined CD about 5 years ago, I dug it then, but now I'm like "OMG best EP evah! LOLOZ!" etc.
These things look like fucking Gamecube discs. Impractical but totally awesome, like the music itself.

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Commercial Album is good. I like the first album and Third Reich and Roll more, though.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

sp. _guaranteed_

my favorite is Not Available. whenever one of the other ones isn't busy being my favorite.

I remember the first time I heard 'the executioner', when the guitar solo kicked in, I remember being so repulsed and horrified that sitting there thinking 'this is the ugliest music I've ever heard in my life, do I really want to go here? do I even want to be someone who owns this record?' then the guitar faded into the funeral march and it was too late

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Duck Stab is like Pet Sounds compared to Wolf Eyes though.
(I don't really dig Wolf Eyes much yet)

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely agree aned endorse Duck Stab at being crazy classic. After that, I'm mad for Moleshow live in Holland (which being early 80s admittedly is less catchy than the 70s stuff), and def. Commerical Album is haunted melody pop brilliance. 90's Freakshow is more what I''d call the Residents Pet Sounds though. (meets carnivals).

-the-night-watch- (-the-night-watch-), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the sexiest music in the whole world. Why do people say it's ugly? (I'm not taking a shot at you, Jon L, you rule) It's fucking GORGEOUS! Is it because the singer has a high nasally voice? That's always been the best way to scare away the jerks. I need to start doing that in my vocals.
I find Duck Stab very soothing. I leave it on repeat all day sometimes as background music. I use it right before bed to lull me to sleep. This is just how my brain works, I guess.

@@r0n h. z@nd3r$ (AaronHz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

which album would you recommend to someone interested in them because of the Tuxedomoon connection?

baaderonixx, Friday, 13 June 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't help you, never heard Tuxedomoon

Tom D., Friday, 13 June 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

A friend mentioned Residents to me recently and it occurred to me I've never actually tried to listen to their stuff before, which struck me as a bit odd. I just know them from bits I heard on college radio.

Bimble, Friday, 13 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

you pretty much can't go wrong with any Residents album 1972-1980. for tunes try either Duck Stab or Commercial Album. for concept albums try Fingerprince or Third Reich and Roll. Not Available is the emotional one.

you know what's good out of the recent stuff? Tweedles pulls off the whole literally stated narrative project they've been trying since God In 3 Persons -- but the music is better and the narrative's honed down to the ugliest essentials, I think it's the best thing they've done in 15-20 years.

Milton Parker, Friday, 13 June 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone know where I can hear The Bunny Boy? Prindle reviewed it today but I can't find a single place to download/stream it. Strongly debating whether catching them on the upcoming tour is worth the money.

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 23 August 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

for archeologist fans of 'Santa Dog' curious about sample sources: http://closetcurios2.blogspot.com/2008/11/concert-percussion-for-orchestra.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadeo_Roldán

The fifth and sixth of his Rítmicas (1930) appear to be the first works in the Western classical music tradition scored for percussion alone. -- take that, Varèse

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

thinking a lot about this insane cover of Burning Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_KgRMLUTuk

feel like this belongs in the pantheon of totally transformative covers. as the first comment says it makes you look it up because it's hard to believe those are actually the real lyrics - now it's the Elvis version that sounds weird, not this one. also my favorite Residents outfit. wonder if those were the actual guys.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The Residents' Triple Trouble is having its New York premiere tonight at MoMA at 6:30 pm:
https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/8565

It's the only screening they're holding, then beginning tomorrow it'll stream online for all MoMA members.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

every time I listen to Residents stuff I'm struck by how ahead of its time it is. maybe not musically, like I know Devo were doing similar things around then, but in some other ways. like their graphic design - I cannot believe that Eskimo is from 1978, that album cover looks so much like something you'd see hanging up in the shop in like, 2002. they have 70s albums where it sounds like they're imitating Simpsons characters. even the concepts of stuff like Third Reich and Roll & The Commercial Album seem to me like internet-era projects. a lot of their videos remind me of like, Cool 3D World stuff. pretty remarkable really

frogbs, Thursday, 9 March 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

More about Triple Trouble:

https://mcusercontent.com/d4b46e5c4250d808643c6623a/images/9dbec8d4-343a-2ea2-c5ce-aafadb822a0b.jpg

Virtual Box Office Premiere: The Resident's Triple Trouble
We are proud to announce the exclusive virtual box office premiere of The Resident's new feature film tonight at MIDNIGHT ET on Night Flight's The Movie Store. In Triple Trouble, directed by Homer Flynn, dive deep into the psyche of Randall "Junior" Rose (Dustin York) who is convinced that a fungus is a threat to humanity.
The film premiered theatrically earlier this month at the MoMA and arrives on Night Flight's The Movie Store for purchase and rental one week before anywhere else.

The Residents are including a FREE DOWNLOAD of two unreleased versions of classic tracks from the Residents' Duck Stab!/Buster & Glen opus with every purchase or rental of Triple Trouble, only on The Movie Store.
"The Residents continue to raise the bar by taking chances and pioneering new skills." — Kelly Park


More info, links etc.:
https://mailchi.mp/nightflight/residentspremiere?e=42851f1305

dow, Friday, 17 March 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

What is this, "The Last of the Residents" or something? Looking forward to those dance numbers with the clickers making music with their sonar noises.

octobeard, Saturday, 18 March 2023 02:05 (one year ago) link

I see Fingerprince is getting a 2xLP + 7" reissue, if the price is right I might get it. its one of the most "cursed" albums I can think of

frogbs, Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

How do you mean?

dow, Sunday, 19 March 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link

well for one there are these promo images

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/meettheresidents/images/2/21/Fingerprincepromo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170130074653

https://i.redd.it/z9d75qdshvw61.jpg

for two idk what it is exactly but I think it actually accomplishes the goal of sounding very off without necessarily trying to. its not just using prickly series of notes its layering a bunch of them on top of each other

furthermore it has the Marge Simpson voice in it which in itself is kinda freaky for a 70s album

frogbs, Sunday, 19 March 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

wtf I love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF2o5RDkq9A

frogbs, Thursday, 3 August 2023 02:27 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

God In Three Persons is not an amazing album overall but "Kiss Of Flesh" is incredible. Love a few others like "Hard And Tenderly"

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 2 March 2024 19:50 (one month ago) link


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