Andrew W.K.

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i find it hard to believe anyone identifies with andrew wk. whatever demographic he supposedly appeals to on a non-ironic level has to realize he's a total twerp so everyone can laugh and think i'm smart enough to realize andrew wk music is double digit IQ. it's dumb but i can like it anyway because i'm not a snob and there's nothing wrong with a lil mindless fun = selling point?

bc, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

If it is, that's one of the crappiest selling points I've seen in a while, mostly because of this idea that those who will like it aren't 'snobs.' I'm not saying that's your own conclusion, I should note -- but if it's the company's or WK's conclusion, then they really can go fuck themselves.

It seems that not to like WK is apparently a sign of being anti-pop, being anti-dumb fun, being a snob, being humorless, being too serious, being a poor sport, etc. I find all these assumptions wanting.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm convinced it's a diabolical conspiracy. set bar low = everyone feels superior, andrew wk immune to criticism, becomes president!

bc, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hell, it worked for Bush.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm not making any assumptions about people who don't like WK, unless they actually say something like "WK is too dumb for me" in which case I think I can assume away.

You, Ned, don't like Andrew WK because he's unmemorable - this tells me nothing about you except your ears work in v.different ways from mine (which I knew anyway) and that you make a lot of fuss about a property (unmemorableness) that doesn't bother me. In fact it's you who's applying an assumed framework to WK - he is pop therefore he must be catchy. I happen to think he is catchy and pop but more than that I love him for the noises and textures: WK tracks make me think of cross-section pictures of the earth's crust, this vast layer of magma and rock (the guitars) with this tiny pretty layer of trees and grass perfectly balanced on top (the keyboards).

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

what about the "landfill" layer?

geeta, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

i pretty much had the same reaction to hanle y when i first saw Andrew WK.

di, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's his voice I suppose geeta.

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've been listening to "I Get Wet" most of the day yesterday driving around the Bay Area (where I finally got to meet the notorious Kris Srinivasan, and dropped by the house of a member of a certain band that Mark Sinker really dislikes), and it kinda hit me why I like it..

It's basically a heavy sugary Devo, with a wrestler's voice. And maybe a little Elton John/John Tesh on the piano bits. The whole metal image seems to be a non-clever rue to make Mr. WK to be some sort of rock god, where in fact, I enjoy the music for all the reasons BUT.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

But where are the geysers, earthquakes and volcanoes, Tom? Without that, Gaia is sterile and dies. ;-)

he is pop therefore he must be catchy

*scratches chin* Now this makes me wonder...can it be possible to create something intentionally uncatchy but aimed at a pop audience? Nothing to do with Andrew WK now, more thinking about what pop 'should' be.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

friend had free tickets but i declined; afterparty at tiny bar on 2nd ave called "lit"... it's a stupid bar... reason enough for me to hate AWK... apparently "the woman from hole/smashing pumpkins" had her arm around AWK's waist for awhile. anyway friend talks w/guitar player (the one who wears the hawaiian shirt in the video) and dude is nice guy from chicago who can't wait to go on tour and visit someplace farther away than california. I can't imagine what's going rhough their heads; their whole world just blew the fuck up. 1 song. 1 video. that's all it takes. and then it occurred to me, as i am being related all this, that what irks most of us about the strokes isn't that they "sold out" but that they didn't sell out ENOUGH... they didn't do it AWK-style, a media monster of megarock right out of the gate...

celebrity scoop, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

intentionally uncatchy but aimed at a pop audience

slave 4 u

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ya think? *Intentionally* so, now, a Britney lead single from a heavily hyped up new album? Don't quite see it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

a media monster of megarock right out of the gate...

Then maybe the answer is WK is the new Vanilla Ice.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

o I forgot, at the afterparty he was still wearing white shirt/jeans/sneaker combo that he wears in his video and for his concert! like the kid at Burger King who's still got on his baseball duds after the game.. awww.

celebrity scoop, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

when are they gonna release the new edition of andrew wk with different outfits and hair you can style!?

bc, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"hair you can style"? eek! can we dip him in lemony fresh pine-sol first to get rid of the grease?

geeta, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

But geeta, then he wouldn't be an "artist"!

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

(He would be lemony fresh, though... choices, choices!)

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

if he tasted like lemon cake it'd be worth it.

Maria, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Remember when someone compared him to Sparks a few months ago? Har har. I'm sure Ned's thrilled with that comparison.

What Tracer said about "not selling out enough" is how I feel about the whole Electroclash thing. I want one of those opportunistic aging club kids to do something totally vulgar and flashy and feelgood--create a new Ru Paul or Deelite--and shoot it into the Top Ten. It's just so classy and blah right now, at least the stuff I've heard.

Arthur, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, pardon me, I mean Deee-lite. Whoops.

Arthur, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm sure Ned's thrilled with that comparison.

I adore it unto my bosom. And then cast it from me like a bad taquito.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

does anyone else here hate the word "electroclash" as much as i do?

yes, i guess greasy wk-hair would be uber-moldable - remember the comic where calvin dipped his head in crisco and shaped his hair into devil-ears? kind of like that, except without calvin's boyish charm.

re: lemon cake: noooo!

geeta, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have no urge to listen to him due to his appearence/image. I shall, at least to one song thanks to all or at least most of you. I fear I shall end up on Ned's side. Eitehr way, I have a couple cases of Leffe Blond in (yeaaaaaaaa ha to income tax) so dont expect coherient or correctly spelt answers out of me for the next few days.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

awright, this is apparently a personal message from the man himself (andrewwk.com):

The future is so bright - at times I feel the need to cover my eyes with my hands for fear of being blinded. But, as quickly as I can cover them, something will tear them away, and I'm forced to momentarily gaze into the explosion. What I see is almost too much to bare - I see the absolute truth. That there is nothing to be afraid of. There is nothing that can hurt me or anyone else. That my place in this room is the same as my place in the universe. That these things are not to be looked down upon, but to be looked up to. And suddenly, all that ever once was is not any more. And all the stuff that I was worried about is no longer upsetting, and all the things that I was afraid of seem safe and warm. The truth has everything inside of it - EVERYTHING. And it is O.K. and it is good.

I will work everyday to feel O.K. To truly feel O.K. is to accept everything as such and that you have a place inside of it all. And that place is a miracle, not something small. We can do so much, so easily, so fast. We have so much power, and so much ability. Human beings are one of the greatest achievements in the history of the world. We are our own achievement. So many people have dedicated their lives to working for our benefit. So many things that we have now came from people before us. We owe to them to make the most of our times now. We can create things of such beauty and magnificent dimensions, and we have the potential to destroy and tear down and deplete as well. This is so simple and so clear. The future holds everything. In my life I want to feel as good as possible and help as many people as I can to feel the same. I want to do everything and I want to help as many people do everything too. Everyone is invited. No one is turned away here. This music is about freedom and this music is much bigger than just me. I don't own it - I couldn't try to keep it all to myself even if I wanted to. It belongs to human beings. It belongs to you. The music is perfect. All it wants is for people to be happy. It doesn't even exist except as a moment of time. The more you believe in it, the stronger it gets and the stronger you get. The music is your best friend, and it will never turn its back on you or let you down. It loves you unconditionally and thinks that you're great. It wants to do whatever it can to make you smile and feel good. You can do no wrong. There is nothing you could ever do or say or feel or think that would make it leave you. It will always be there for you - from the first time that you hear it to the last time before you die. In the morning when you wake up, and right before you go to sleep. And it will visit you in the dark, in your dreams and it will make you're happiest wishes come true, and in your nightmares it will protect you and fight for you and keep you safe. The only thing happening here is acceptance and excitement. This is real and true. It is the truth. I will work everyday, and be patient, and have endurance, so that I can give to others what has been given to me. It is not instant. It will take time, and when I'm dead it will continue on without me. This is not mine alone, and I did not begin it. It was begun when the first baby smiled and it will NEVER END. NO ONE CAN STOP THIS - this is still just the beginning. The start of the beginning. This has never happened before. We have never happened before. You have never happened before. There are new horizons and new frontiers that belong to us. These are our trails to blaze. THIS IS OUR TIME. I LOVE YOU.

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i have to admit, that makes his schtick exponentially more delightful.

he's due to appear on politically incorrect on april 29th. i am eagerly anticipating this.

bc, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did you cut off the last line of WK's motivational speech by mistake bc? because I think it ends "because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me"..

geeta, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dear LORD he's a HIPPIE!

OK, more seriously, even as an Andrew WK fan I'm not quite sure how you get from that to "Party Til You Puke".

Tom, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

it's easy once you factor in the fact that he asked the mosh pit at the show i went to last week to 'please' move up to the front.

maura, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dear LORD he's a HIPPIE!

VINDICATION!

Dan Perry, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

And it must mean Tom will have to grow his beard in honor of his newfound hippie love. And we all know what that means -- shame, ostracism and the incipient wrath of Nicole.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom - exactly exactly! The hippy-fascist connection via Charles Manson - that's what I actually get about the charm of hippies. Anyone can come up with that kind of insane crap if they open themselves up to it - I do it all the time and it's not at all reassuring or human. I'm not putting Andrew WK down! I like him. But it's just like Bjork - people think that she or Andrew WK could provide some kind of - oh never mind.

maryann, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

And it will visit you in the dark, in your dreams and it will make you're happiest wishes come true, and in your nightmares it will protect you and fight for you and keep you safe.

So maybe his music is NOT that bad, eh?

Maria, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

andrew wk: the american morrissey?

geeta, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
Andrew W.K. is the fucking shit! If u don't think so than u can't appreciate music to the full extent.... I LOVE ANDREW W.K. (but only live cuz hes totaly on lots of drugs and retarded from hitting himself in the head so many times during concerts..) hes awsome!

some guy, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Andrew W.K. gives new meaning to the idea of uber-sweetness. I think that you whiney bastards just talk shit about Andrew because not only are you nowhere close to his elevated man-god level, but you also would get your ass beat by him if you ever came across him in real life. All you motherfuckers are gonna pay, You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. Andrew WK is gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Then he and his band are gonna make you eat their shit, then shit out their shit, then eat your shit which is made up of their shit that we made you eat. Then you're all fucking gonna die!

Andrew R.J., Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yes i was just thinking that. its quite a worry

gareth, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

you also would get your ass beat by him if you ever came across him in real life

If I came across most people I suspect they'd have a right to complain. Depends on the context, though.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Why do you always have to ruin Thanksgiving???" - Ellen Degeneres

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 24 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
This album is not your average pop culture phenom. I have a feeling Andrew will not be mainstreaming anytime soon. He will make records, make some money, develop a large cult following, never be recognized for his genius, and die a lonely death, only to be properly hailed when he's wormfood. Whoa, I'm feeling a sense of deja vu. Who does this sound like? OH YEAH! Joey Ramone.

Yeah, I am going to damn the torpedoes and make the comparison. This album is very "Ramones-y." This a good thing. A VERY good thing. Songs with little lyrical merit, yet still make you feel good to be alive. Peppy and pointless. This is what I expect from musicians I like. Stay away from "art." Art is rarely good. I don't want to have to think and ponder. I want to bounce around, slam into the concert goer next to me, wind up bloody, and go home feeling snazzy.

The last time I felt this good about music was at the final Ramones show, and listening to his album, I get the same feeling. It's a very good thing. And that's what music's really all about, isn't it? Making you feel something. Good, bad, whatever. It's all good.

Kevin Buffington made some very good points in his review (http://www.culturedose.com/review.php?rid=10002497), and I'm not saying he's wrong. Do the songs sound alike? Yes. Is there a recurring theme here? Quite. Do they blend together? Of course they do. Will these songs change the world as we know it? Probably not, but all I'm saying is that this isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Agreed, I won't call this metal. I'm almost afraid to call it Punk, but it definitely doesn't fit any of the other genres. I can't really call it rock, since I'm not feeling the need to airguitar. What I WANT to do is to violently slam my 270 pounds into someone, watch them "ooof!," turn around and do the same thing to me.

Loud guitars, screaming madman, no solos, AND keyboards on occasion, this album has everything I could hope for. No, he's not reinventing the wheel, he's not worried about difficult chord progressions (barre chord central, folks, have I made the Ramones comparison? By George, I think I did!), but he is having a blast doing it and I'm having a blast listening to it. Over and over and over again.

The songs are all pretty upbeat, a quick tempo with a driving beat. No, there's not much of an edge. Is a good portion of each song a repetitive chorus? Yes. Again, not a bad thing. The Ramones' "Beat On The Brat" is a perfect example. And while they seem to go by fast, the average song is about 3 minutes. This is the only flaw in my opinion. 12 tracks, yet the album only lasts 35 minutes. I want more, dammit.

Songs of note include "Ready To Die," a very peppy happy song about killing you (with cheerful keyboards, no less. OK, so maybe art isn't dead on this album.) and "I Love NYC," which would make a decent anthem, and is sure to get tons of airplay, after all, not doing so would mean that the terrorists win. We can't have that, no sirree bob.

In conclusion, I highly recommend this piece of auditory magic. If you're tired of being spoon fed the latest crap MTV hands out, and really want to feel good about music again, this album will do it for you. I'm going to end this now. My cats need to learn how to mosh with the big boys. Pray for them.


-Kevin Carlson

Shell, Saturday, 30 November 2002 11:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

shut up, man

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 11:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

No I liked the review!! (Except the obvious journoburps like the MTV bit)

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

awk is not to be spoken of

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

like g-d

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hah, I'm just happy that someone reads CultureDose!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

The review was a bit too repetitive on the theme of "it may be shallow rubbish, but that doesn't mean it's not great" line. The kneejerk MTV line, besides making me feel like putting MTV on, reminded me of the sneery tone in one bit of today's Guardian referring to the "commercialised charts". I mean, fancy the charts (an ordered list of records selling the most) getting commercialised!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 30 November 2002 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
????????

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 6 January 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I must have missed this thread the previous times around. Interesting how someone who is basically the white Wesley Willis can provoke such strong feelings on both sides.

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 6 January 2003 02:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

i know i'm coming late to this. but i love i get wet. somewhat surprising to me. and more surprising since my tastes tend to be closer to ned's than tom's.

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 6 January 2003 05:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Greatest living artist, obv.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 6 January 2003 06:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Speak of the... devil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8C7hKpBNA

vcrash, Thursday, 6 May 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

this new album's gonna be pretty heavy huh

frogbs, Thursday, 6 May 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

Wow this song rules

Incredible album title + cover art combo too

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

that track is a snooze im sure his fans from his Glen Beck network show will dig tho

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

I've never been an AWK fan, but the video has a Matthew Barney-ish feel that I'm into. The song's...fine, but nothing without the visuals.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

The "Babalon" video is quite something as well.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 May 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

OK, just watched "Babalon" and that is legitimately great (song and video). If he'd sounded like this all along I'd have been a fan 20 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI8y36733ag

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 May 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

apparently an entire journal of his from 1998-2000 leaked online

https://awkshare.com/files/7d756f81-e197-4711-9101-fd042ca3d17b

feels wrong to be reading this but it's pretty fascinating, hundreds of pages not only detailing the entire Andrew WK persona but also a man at war with himself. seems to explore the whole "use actors for the first few years/make it seem like everyone else is doing the work" idea. at some point he lays out his first 9 albums, #5 being "The Devil's on Your Side" and #6 being "The Party Gods"

obviously a good chance this was all made in the last couple of months but still, pretty crazy shit here

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

"i'm in heaven" is so good

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

xp "leaked"

Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link


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