Best Martin Scorsese movie

omar otm.

and i like casino a lot too! some days i prefer it to goodfellas because some days i prefer its really grim tone (not that goodfellas is a comedy, but then again it sort of is in a weird way). i have a fair amount of admiration for his trio w/dicaprio as well. the obvious ones (mean streets, taxi driver, raging bull) are all great though i don't think raging bull's greatness really appeals to me as much as taxi driver's, and i prefer mean streets to both by a fair amount.

sole cinematic moment of grace is keith carradine crucified to a boxcar.

That's David Carradine, and Boxcar Bertha is certainly better than Cape Fear (or Kill Bill).

Goodfellas, easy.

-- nate woolls, Friday, August 15, 2008 7:07 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

-- rent, Friday, August 15, 2008 2:21 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

haha yeah david carradine. cape fear seems pretty dire but I actually haven't seen it in its glorious entirety.

imdb trivia on boxcar bertha
After he finished this film, Martin Scorsese screened the film for John Cassavetes. Cassavetes, after seeing this film, hugged Scorsese and said, "Martin, you just spent a year of your life making shit!"

tho I'm happy you're willing to rep for a movie with BOXCAR in the title

After Hours
Kundun

kundun's only redeeming feature is making mao a campy b-movie villain

Casavetes, (semi-)wrong again!

Fuck you.

Pay me.

Goodfellas, easy.

-- nate woolls, Friday, August 15, 2008 7:07 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

-- rent, Friday, August 15, 2008 2:21 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

-- Jordan, Friday, August 15, 2008 12:45 PM (Friday, August 15, 2008 12:45 PM) Bookmark Link

somehow still haven't seen Casino. Of the ones I've seen (which i guess is about 3/4 of them) my favorites are King of Comedy, Raging Bull, and After Hours.

I think the Age of Innocence is a really underrated film.

Most overrated: Goodfellas
-- Eric H., Friday, August 15, 2008 2:32 PM (2 hours ago)

silly. wouldn't most overrated go to say, taxi driver? or raging bull?
-- s1ocki, Friday, August 15, 2008 4:54 PM (1 hour ago)

Goodfellas, easy.
-- nate woolls, Friday, August 15, 2008 7:07 AM (2 hours ago)
-- rent, Friday, August 15, 2008 2:21 PM (3 hours ago)
-- Jordan, Friday, August 15, 2008 12:45 PM (Friday, August 15, 2008 12:45 PM)
-- Pleasant Plains, Friday, August 15, 2008 6:32 PM (6 minutes ago)

Taxi Driver is too great to be overrated.

otm

All I'm saying is that no president has ever been shot because the assassin had been watching too much GoodFellas.

that's some prime sub custos bait

(xpost) That's right. Which makes me feel even better for voting Taxi Driver.

I also enjoyed The Aviator which I guess makes me crazy.
Voting KoC.

"one day, a great rain will come and wash the scum BLAH BLAH BLAH FUCK YOU PAY ME.

Cassavetes, after seeing this film, hugged Scorsese and said, "Martin, you just spent a year of your life making shit!"

As if there weren't enough reasons already to worship JC.

Boxcar Bertha is certainly better than Cape Fear

Cape Fear is definitely towards the bottom of his oeuvre. But even there, Scorsese shows some remarkable subtlety. For the first thirty, forty minutes or so, his camera never meets a tripod, gliding all over the place as if it were resting on melted butter....until the scene where the killer and the daughter first talk (on a deserted stage, IIRC). And finally the camera calms down and we get a classic, even rote shot-reverse shot editing pattern during the conversation. Only now, after all that swirling, the rigid back-and-forth becomes unbearably intense.

There's nothing remotely like that in Boxcar Bertha.

No, but there is Barbara Hershey's tits.

Yeah but there is no De Niro's tits.

No, but there is Barbara Hershey's tits.

to be fair scorsese didn't have much involvement in producing those

at least he didn't spend a year of his life making A Woman under the Influence...

Hinckley's lousy aim is not Schrader & Scorsese's fault.

CONTROPS

"Marty! Kundun! I liked it!"

definetely After Hours, no contest at all.

(btw just watched the original Cape Fear and it beats the .. out of his remake, which, I guess was supposed to be funny)

at least he didn't spend a year of his life making A Woman under the Influence...

Oooh looks like a JC poll is up next if it hasn't been done already. That should bring out all the lovers.

wait til the box set comes out, KJ. (Chinese Bookie for me)

also, if King of Comedy wins this poll, Eric might watch it.

Looking at this list makes me realise that I only really like Taxi Driver, The King Of Comedy and After Hours. And The Big ShaveCape Fear.

fixed

Voted After Hours, anyway.

wait til the box set comes out, KJ. (Chinese Bookie for me)

Another Cassavetes box set is coming out? Links? (Love Streams forever and always)

Voting Casino in the absence of Gangs.

absence of gags

oh I'm sorry; they're releasing Cassavetes titles from an old Criterion box as singles. My mistake.

"Marty! Kundun! I liked it!"

lololololol

I like New York New York (first one I saw in a theater)

Italianamerican is a hoot

Ever see the Freaky Friday remake with Lindsey Lohan? Her waking up out of bed with her mom inside her body was straight up "Rubber Biscuit" Harvey Keitel.

Italianamerican is a hoot

wish this would come out on dvd already

but for now unfortunately and appropriately Italianamerican is a boot

i think these ones are great (to varying degrees): taxi driver, king of comedy, goodfellas

honorable mentions: mean streets, last waltz, after hours

ho-hummest: the departed

overratededest: raging bull

best film since goodfellas (challop): gangs of n.y.

other ones that i would watch again: new york, new york; last temptation; age of innocence

still need to see: casino

(voted taxi driver because i saw it at an impressionable age and it pretty well blew me away)

goodfellas.

King of Comedy. I was tempted by Last Temptation - I recently re-watched it and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. I don't enjoy much of the rest of his work, even though I admire some of it.

Just a quick bit of love for "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore," which is devastating.

(and which I just fucked up and failed to vote for)

Cream did a long version of "Steppin' Out" on Live Cream II, an archival release from '72.

It was initially mistitled/credited as "Hideaway", which IIRC carried over to some prints of Mean Streets.

Both songs being instrumentals first recorded by Clapton during his time with Mayall.

That's it--I distinctly remember seeing "Hideaway" in the music credits more than once. Mystery solved, thanks.

The song in question (1:45):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA2XMiK12VQ

We talk a lot about this, which--dead serious--I think is the greatest four minutes of any Scorsese film ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIA1vqQfb8

(I may have posted this clip upthread--if so, that link is broken.)

Just watched The Age of Innocence for the first time. It was a pleasure to be sunk in that milieu for a couple of hours. There is a sense that with such strong source material, it's your set designers and casting agent you're going to rely on most of all but I thought it was handled well. I think it's aged well (a bit like DDL. tbf), albeit the editing in the final scenes in the Paris courtyard is kinda clunky.

Curious whom Alfred would have cast instead of Pfeiffer...

Right?!?

Sigourney Weaver?

I appreciate that Marty is this level of nerd. With staff helping of course.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/mar/25/martin-scorsese-vhs-video-collection-archive

Looks like he was cool using SLP