David Lynch's "Inland Empire"

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Not a huge fan -- I don't love any except Mulholland, the first season and a half of TP and maybe Eraserhead -- but I have NYFF tix for this one. And so I am not reading any of the details above.

Maybe change thread title to Inland Empire...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it just me, or would Lynch doing the film of The Prisoner have been the greatest thing ever?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

david lynch doing the wind up bird chronicle would be the best ever

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, technically

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno, murakami is so obviously influenced by lynch that it might not work. the places where they intersect could overwhelm the places where they don't (specifically, japanese-ness vs. american-ness), which could cost the story its (very japanese) moral voice.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

no, it would be the best.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Morbius, I thought tickets weren't going on sale until Sunday?

The Yellow Kid (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 8 September 2006 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link

after Mulholland Drive Lynch had 2 options: make a relativly old-fashoined movie again (like "straight story" or "elephant man") or take the Mulholland Drive formula (breaking the narrative,combine realism with surrealism ,obscuring the line between what is real and what is just an imitation and other post modern stuff) to the extreme.
it seems he chose the 2nd option, but according to those early reviews, he went a bit too far.or maybe he is just ahead of it's time..well have to wait and see.

emekars (emekars), Friday, 8 September 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

I am a Film Society member, and get an advance order form.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 September 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i dunno, murakami is so obviously influenced by lynch

The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle was published in 3 parts from 92-95. Prior to 92, the only relevant Lynch films were Eraserhead, The Elephant Man, Dune, Blue Velvet and Wild At Heart. Twin Peaks was not exported to Japan until 1993.

I'm not saying that Murakami does not have any obvious influences, I just think a Lynch influence on WUBC is pretty far-fetched.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

ho snap!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i gotta admit i got the idea from murakami himself as he was asked in an interview about movieatizing his books and he said something like no way i hate that shit - unless it of course it's david lynch.

although stephen chow would obv do a bang up job as well.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

And, of course, there are the giant rabbits on a stage -- two on a sofa, a third ironing (voiced by Naomi Watts, Laura Harring and Scott Coffey).

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

*excited*

Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

that's rabbits - likely not even reshot for the movie

http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/424940/805059

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0347840

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

[Not to get off-track but if you guys are interested in a very somber cinemization of Murakami:

Tony Takitani ]

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

wow didnt even know that existed tx

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not saying that Murakami does not have any obvious influences, I just think a Lynch influence on WUBC is pretty far-fetched.

ah, BUT...he was living in the u.s. while writing wind-up bird:

I was here from 1991 to 1995, which was when I was writing this book.

he mentions lynch later in that interview, and i've seen several other interviews where he does the same. which doesn't mean that x particular element in y particular book came from lynch, but they certainly have a shared sensibility.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i want to see Tony Takitani. if only for all the dresses.

re: inland island: i know the rabbits are going to freak me out. am mostly worried about the digital video b/c one of the things i love so much about lynch is the lushness he gets with real film. i just wonder if DV will fit.

rrrobyn, the situation (rrrobyn), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

what's up with all the rabbits, anyway? donnie darko, sexy beast, why are rabbits in vogue as metaphors of arty menace?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.mcfuture.net/blog/attach/1/791137.jpg

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

cuz rabbits are fucking creepy? second only to deer, but lynchy's already done that in _straight story_

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

god "tony takitani" took a few nice formal ideas and ran them into the fucking ground. boo.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 September 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

second only to deer, but lynchy's already done that in _straight story_

As well as Industrial Symphony #1: Theme of the Broken Hearted.

Orange (Orange), Saturday, 9 September 2006 09:44 (seventeen years ago) link

what's up with all the rabbits, anyway?

http://static.flickr.com/27/39509889_458d902ea4.jpg

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 9 September 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link

seinfeld.jpg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 September 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I'm intrigued by the vid lookin 'dirty,' tho whether that will oppress me for 3 hours I dunno.

His last line in this profile nails why I often don't care for DVD commentaries.


David Lynch Returns: Expect Moody Conditions, With Surreal Gusts
By DENNIS LIM

LOS ANGELES

TO hear him tell it, David Lynch has spent the last five years killing the thing he loves, for fear that it will kill him first.

“The sky’s the limit with digital,” he said in a recent conversation, his voice approaching foghorn pitch. “Film is like a dinosaur in a tar pit. People might be sick to hear that because they love film, just like they loved magnetic tape. And I love film. I love it!”

He contorted his face into an expression that suggested pain more than love. “It’s so beautiful,” he said. But “I would die if I had to work like that again.”

Not one for understatement or half measures, Mr. Lynch takes a giant leap into the post-celluloid future with the three-hour “Inland Empire,” his first feature since “Mulholland Drive” in 2001, his 10th overall and the first to be shot on the humble medium of digital video. The movie had its premiere last month at the Venice Film Festival, where Mr. Lynch, who turned 60 in January, was awarded a Golden Lion for career achievement. It will have its first North American showings at the New York Film Festival on Oct. 8 and 9.

On this clear Los Angeles morning, his first at home after three weeks in Europe, Mr. Lynch was knocking back a huge cappuccino in his favorite corner of his painting studio, a scatter of stale cigarette butts on the cement floor around his Aeron chair.

“It’s actually cleaner that I thought it would be,” he said, looking around. The sunlit atelier is perched atop one of the three sleek concrete structures that make up his compound in the Hollywood Hills. He lives in one building; another is the office of his production company, Asymmetrical. This one, the hub of creative activity, served first as a location for his 1997 film “Lost Highway” and was later converted into a production facility with a recording and editing studio and a screening room. (Mr. Lynch’s chair, off limits to anyone else, can be identified by the sizable ashtray on the armrest.)

The moods and objects throughout inevitably bring to mind that most resonant of eponymous adjectives: Lynchian. Corridors and stairwells are minimally lighted. One room has the signature red curtains. Propped against one wall is an Abstract Expressionist canvas by Mr. Lynch, a brown expanse with a violent splotch of blue and the inscription “Bob loves Sally until she is blue in the face.” A photograph of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the Transcendental Meditation guru, sits on a conference table, sunlight illuminating a single cobweb that hangs from its gold frame.

Lately Mr. Lynch has emerged as a keen proponent of Transcendental Meditation, which he said he has practiced twice a day since 1973 without missing a session. Last year he established the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace with the goal of raising $7 billion to create “universities of peace.” He also went on a campus tour, promoting the benefits of “diving within” with the help of a meditating assistant hooked up to an electroencephalograph.

His other consuming passion of recent years has been the Internet. Mr. Lynch grasped the potential of streaming media earlier and took to it with greater enthusiasm than filmmakers half his age. His sprawling Web site, davidlynch.com, begun in 2001, carries merchandise (mugs, photos, alarming ring tones) and subscriber-only content (original music, experimental vignettes, the animated series “Dumbland”). On the home page he delivers the daily weather report for Los Angeles direct to Webcam.

As it turns out, some of Mr. Lynch’s online experiments found their way into “Inland Empire,” which, despite his claims for the speed of direct video, took three years to make. It was shot in fits and starts and, for the longest time, on his own dime and without a unifying vision. At the outset, “I never saw any whole, W-H-O-L-E,” he said. “I saw plenty of holes, H-O-L-E-S. But I didn’t really worry. I would get an idea for a scene and shoot it, get another idea and shoot that. I didn’t know how they would relate.”

Only after the project was well under way did he contact the French studio Canal Plus, which financed the transformation of “Mulholland Drive” from a rejected television pilot into a feature film. Canal Plus signed on to “Inland Empire” even though, Mr. Lynch said, “I told them two things: ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ ”

Eventually the grand design revealed itself. In interviews Mr. Lynch has repeatedly advanced a poetic, democratic notion of ideas as independent of the artist, waiting to be plucked from the ether, or, in his preferred analogy, reeled in: he’s working on a book about the creative process titled “Catching the Big Fish.” With “Mulholland Drive,” he said the eureka moment came while he was meditating. With “Eraserhead,” his indelible debut in 1977, inspiration came while reading the Bible. (He declined to specify the passage.) There was no equivalent lightning bolt on “Inland Empire,” but in due course “something started to talk to me,” he said. “It was as if it was talking to me all along but I didn’t know it.”

A thoroughly instinctual filmmaker, Mr. Lynch could never be accused of overthinking things. Or of overtalking them. In discussions of his work he reverts to affable stonewalling tactics, deflecting detailed or analytical probes with a knowing vagueness.

The vertiginous “Inland Empire” is sure to provoke questions about meaning, literal and metaphoric. Still without a United States distributor, this may be his most avant-garde offering since “Eraserhead.” In tone and structure the film resembles the cosmic free fall of the mind-warping final act in “Mulholland Drive.”

“Inland Empire” refers on one level to the landlocked region east of Los Angeles but also evokes the vast, murky kingdom of the unconscious. Like “Lost Highway” and “Mulholland Drive,” the new movie is hard-wired into its protagonist’s disintegrating psyche, a condition that somehow prompts convulsive dislocations in time and space.

Laura Dern, who worked with Mr. Lynch on “Blue Velvet” and “Wild at Heart,” plays an actress who lands a coveted role, only to learn that the movie, a remake, may be cursed: the original was aborted when both leads were murdered. Actor becomes character. Fiction infects reality. The various narrative strands — plagued by déjà vu, doppelgängers and the menacing ambient drone of Mr. Lynch’s sound design — start to unravel. Shuttling between California and Poland, the movie folds in a Baltic radio play, a Greek chorus of skimpily dressed young women and a ghostly sitcom featuring a rabbit-headed cast and an arbitrary laugh track.

Asked to elaborate on some of the film’s themes, Mr. Lynch was illuminating, if not always in expected ways. On his apparent conception of the self as fragmentary, he said: “The big self is mondo stable. But the small self — we’re blowing about like dry leaves in the wind.” Regarding the essential elusiveness of time, he declared, “It’s going backward and forward, and it’s slippery.”

He brought up wormholes, invoked the theories of the quantum physicist (and fellow meditator) John Hagelin and recounted a moment of déjà vu that overcame him while making “The Elephant Man.” “There was a feeling of a past thing and it’s holding, and the next instant I slipped forward” — he made a sound somewhere between a slurp and a whoosh — “and I see this future.”

A nightmare vision of the dream factory, “Inland Empire” belongs to the lineage of Hollywood bloody valentines that runs from “Sunset Boulevard” to “Mulholland Drive.” In one scene a character, stabbed in the gut with a screwdriver, runs down Hollywood Boulevard, leaving a gory trail on the Walk of Fame. Like “Mulholland Drive,” the film is at once a tribute to actors, especially those chewed up and spit out by the industry, and a study of the metaphysics of their craft.

Acting, Mr. Lynch suggests, is a kind of out-of-body experience. Like Naomi Watts in “Mulholland,” Ms. Dern summons an almost frightening intensity in a performance that requires her to inhabit three (if not more) overlapping parts, lapsing in and out of a Southern drawl.

“I thought of it as playing a broken or dismantled person, with these other people leaking out of her brain,” Ms. Dern said in a telephone interview. She said she held as a mental touchstone Catherine Deneuve’s portrait of psychosis in Roman Polanski’s “Repulsion” and noted that the stop-start shoot had its advantages: “It’s unbelievably freeing. You’re not sure where you’re going or even where you’ve come from. You can only be in the moment.”

One of the pluses of video was that the moment could be extended. Despite the overall lack of continuity, the lightweight camera and longer takes allowed for more freedom in individual scenes. “When you don’t have to stop and spend two hours relighting, you’re just able to boogie together,” Mr. Lynch said.

The genesis of “Inland Empire” was a 14-page monologue he wrote for Ms. Dern. They shot it once, in a 70-minute take, on a set built in his painting studio. The scene is carved up and strewn throughout the film but remains its dark heart.

Watching “Inland Empire,” which makes little attempt to temper the harshness of video, it’s hard not to miss the tactile richness of Mr. Lynch’s celluloid images. Instead of a state-of-the-art high-definition camera, he used the Sony PD-150, a common midrange model.

“Everybody says, ‘But the quality, David, it’s not so good,’ and that’s true,” Mr. Lynch said. “But it’s a different quality. It reminds me of early 35-millimeter film. You see different things. It talks to you differently.”

Mary Sweeney, Mr. Lynch’s longtime producer (and ex-wife), called the new film a return to the obsessive experimentation of “Eraserhead,” which he also shot piecemeal over several years. “David got very excited about the ways the new technology could liberate him,” she said. “I think it took him back to a pure and fearless way of working.”

Mr. Lynch also stressed the importance of fearlessness. “Fear is like a tourniquet on the big tube of creative flow,” he said. And thanks to meditation, “negative things decrease,” he added. “You get more ideas. You catch them at a deeper level.”

The dissonance between this upbeat philosophy and the abysmal terror of his films is not lost on him. “You can understand depression much more when you’re not depressed,” he said. “You go to this ocean of knowingness. That’s what you use.”

His body of work may be, short of Hitchcock’s, the most psychoanalyzed in film history, but Mr. Lynch once forswore psychotherapy, fearing it might inhibit his creativity. Most things, as he sees it, are best left uninterrogated.

“As soon as you put things in words, no one ever sees the film the same way,” he said at one point, when the line of questioning turned too specific. “And that’s what I hate, you know. Talking — it’s real dangerous.”


Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company


Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

this film sounds nuts. I hope it gets a distributor out here (I'm sure it will, but its not going to make any money)

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

oh fuck yes - can't wait for this, esp. being a child of ye inland empire myself

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(also, its entirely likely I'm just a moron but how the fuck can I download those David Lynch ringtones...? On the website if you click on 'em they just play, I don't get any "download" or "save target as" menu option... am I supposed to physically plug my phone into the computer somehow or something...?)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I rescreened Fire Walk With Me last night to feel appropriately Lynchian.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

it's like half of a good movie... best scene = Leland at the dinner table obsessing over whether or not Laura's washed her hands

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

After they play, "buy now" appears. I'm guessing you'll be able to download the files after you pay... ([ILLEGAL HAX0R OPTION] or just record them with Total Recorder or something and then convert them to a format your phone can play [/ILLEGAL HAX0R OPTION])

(xpost)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

oh duh. thx man

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

at this stage Lynch coud release what was deemed to be a disaster and i'd probably stil watch it ten times over.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

It's more baffling than Mulholland Dr -- tho I figured out the ending, at least to my satisfaction, 2-1/2 hrs after it was over -- and quite good. Dern's kind of amazing and has no dialogue for long stretches. Best thing I've seen so far this year. My Lynchfan friend was "confused."

If anyone spots Nastassja Kinski in it, let me know.

No original score, but lots of Penderecki, and Beck and "The Locomotion" pop up.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

How's the digital video look?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"best thing i've seen so far this year."
-- dr. morbius

(that should be the only blurb on the poster)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

SO EXCITED

Jimmy Mod is COMPLETELY MISERABLE SAN DIEGO (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

The digital video does not look 'good,' by Lynch's own admission (see NYT above -- it's not hi def) but is approp for nightmarescape.

Laura Dern and Lynch did Q&A, and when she described the DV shooting-all-the-time method as leading to "instinctual" acting, he interrupted her with "Intuitive! Instinctual is I'm hungry, I gotta go eat."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Lynch to self-distribute in US & Canada:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/44/15044.php

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Opens in NYC & LA in December:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/anthony/archives/011650.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

no fair!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ok that's awesome

latebloomer and his 'Cyborg Companion', Hacker (latebloomer), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't believe I missed him!

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

It's up on YouTube now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut6zdE8qWj0

Lynch is like the Hollywood Obi Wan Kenobi now... "stay out of trouble. see ya!"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
from the Hold...

http://ilx.thehold.net/thread.php?msgid=21063


If you need a literal "interpretation," chaki's works as well as any.

Is IE just crawling across the continent city by city?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

still eagerly waitin for it over here

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently its due for an SF Intl Film Fest screening at the Castro, but that's already sold out and I can't even find the event information...?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i want to see this again and then possibly a third time

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Jejune Sex Play never matched the power of their first EP.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link

i hate the word jejune tbh but it has a genuinely interesting (if slightly baffling) etymology: https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=jejune

mark s, Monday, 9 May 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

lol every adj-noun phrase in that long parenthesisis is equally bad lazy thinking

If you like the film, sure; I don't, and describes what I don't like extremely well.

clemenza, Monday, 9 May 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

He could mean Beck--those three are maybe the only songs I'd count as pop music.

clemenza, Monday, 9 May 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link

i was joking, he almost certainly means that chrysta bell song

black tambourine too thwacky to be saccharine

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 9 May 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link

Don't know that.

clemenza, Monday, 9 May 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

In Inland Empire Laura Dern says something like “oh you sweet baby infant boy” and I tried to search for the exact wording but parent SEO stuff made it basically impossible. Anyway I’m surprised there aren’t hundreds of accounts on here called that.

— Don Hughes (@getfiscal) May 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 May 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Now imagining that the fake news secret lynch project at Cannes this year was an angriest dog feature

― gop on ya gingrich (wins), Sunday, May 8, 2022 1:29 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Eraserhead: The Next Generation or bust.

So my initial take after seeing this Friday was "A David Lynch movie about making a David Lynch movie." Subsequently I can see connections with Lynch's Twin Peaks works. (Can two TV series and Fire Walk With Me be treated as a trilogy?) But I'm not interested in pursuing them further right now.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 16 May 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

would be nice to see a movie about the Eraserhead baby in middle age

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 16 May 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link


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