― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh, I've seen it properly before (in a theatre, actually). And yes, TV doesn't do justice to many films. I just don't think it's that well written. It's predecessor, meanwhile, was.
I don't understand what it is you're expecting of this movie, or why.
Well, I just don't think, in retrospect, it lives up to the promise of the first one.
I think Alex is objecting to character development and dialogue.
....or lack of it.
By the way, there are certainly worse films out there, for what it's worth.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
the sexual subtexts are easily the best thing about the alien movies - why else have giger design the shit? - hell, and scifi and horror movies in general, too, as opposed to scifi and horror novels - and the 2nd movie expands on those subtexts in a way that "alien: resurrection" just don't (now there's a shit movie).
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I would argue that it's a great deal more difficult to make an effectively scary, suspenseful horror film than an action movie (wherein all you really need to please certain folks, as noted, are "cool guns").
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Was HR Giger involved with the films that followed the second one?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, vahid OTM.
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
S: the theatrical cutD: *only* being able to have the extended cut on DVD for a long time, but that's thankfully now corrected
Alien and Aliens are different takes on standard tropes that were successful precisely Scott and crew on the one hand and Cameron and crew on the other were able to hotwire them into something which was so ridiculously successful -- commercially and in terms of effective filmmaking -- that each in their own single-handedly established a slew of new cliches. Which may seem a strange thing to credit them for, but *how* many films since then have essentially tried to be one or the other, borrowing set pieces, concepts, dialogue practically and more? And none are nearly as good as these two.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
that's pretty much the subtext of EVERY ilxor post you've ever written, alex!
:-)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Brilliantly parodied in the MST3K movie. So I will have nothing said against the original.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link
It's certainly the best-*looking*.
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/greatmovies/alien.html
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Because he's a COOL ROBOT!
Oh, there's no talking to you.
― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link
agreedomar otm again, as always
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 March 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
co-sign
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 March 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link
'kind've'
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 March 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFmq2gDwXpo
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 May 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
hmmm
Man, those AI generated images of Aliens: The Musical
https://preview.redd.it/ksydb2ec0jwa1.png
https://preview.redd.it/kgrzw2ec0jwa1.png
https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/131dhju/aliens_the_musical/
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 12:40 (eleven months ago) link
Dammithttps://preview.redd.it/kgrzw2ec0jwa1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=96b8c5cb406a4f99bb8e52d99e47fc24fbfef1fa
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― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 12:42 (eleven months ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fu20G4faQAYcgeT?format=jpg&name=medium
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 12:43 (eleven months ago) link
lol beautiful
― Ste, Saturday, 29 April 2023 19:49 (eleven months ago) link