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Your claim that CNN is entirely in the pocket of the White House is overstatement. I'm not gonna argue that their Iraq coverage was slanted towards the White House but using your selective viewing of CNN (how mcuh do you watch?, btw) as the experience needed to claim selective reporting to benefit the White House isn't very good research. Using Google, I found a CNN two-part interview w/ Chalabi.

"How am I supposed to "filter" that, if CNN is my news source? If facts were coffee, you'd be drinking a mighty weak brew."

By getting your news from a variety of sources. To say that BBC or Information Clearing House or Disinfo or whoever you're listening to are without their own biases is just as naive to only pay attention to CNN.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 February 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link

No news organization is free of "bias." That's not even what I'm talking about. I'm saying CNN is far behind outfits like BBC, Reuters, and AP on basic journalism techniques: presenting each side's case in detail, devil's advocate questioning, and setting its own agenda. CNN simply doesn't do those things on a consisten basis. AP, Reuters, and the BBC do. Who's forcing you to watch CNN? American television journalism is SHIT, okay?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 16 February 2004 04:46 (twenty years ago) link

I'm saying CNN is far behind outfits like BBC, Reuters, and AP on basic journalism techniques: presenting each side's case in detail, devil's advocate questioning, and setting its own agenda

I don't watch enough to BBC to comment, but AP and Reuters, as wire services, function very differently than CNN, as a cable network. The question I raised initally was not "Is CNN the most reliable, ethical news service in the world?" but "Why all the anger directed specifically at CNN, when they're no worse than any other major network?".
I think what makes the issue of TV News more contentious than newspapers is that there's no real "editor", whose biases and agendas are clear. This was brought up a couple days ago when networks were trying to figure out how they should report the John Kerry affair story.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 February 2004 04:59 (twenty years ago) link

They question you raised initially was Search and Destroy. Some of us said "destroy it all" and we've given you our reasons for it. You can take them or leave them.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 16 February 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

FWIW I think all major network news in the US is shit. If this was "Search and Destroy: ABC News" I'd be here saying virtually the same thing. CNN comes in for special abuse because it's the default news channel for the world, along with the BBC, and the contrasts between the two don't flatter it.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 16 February 2004 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

Bring back Rick Kaplan.

Results! (sort of - former CNN honcho Rick Kaplan apparently moving in at MSNBC)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
"We'll be watching this kid" -- CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on TomKat Jr ("Situation Room," 4/18).

"I need professional help" -- CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on his taxes ("Situation Room," 4/17).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
ten months pass...

headline that they had up on screen for about 3 minutes just now:

"Pres. Obama Joins GOP"

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

WTF 40% decline in viewership since last year?!? that is insane. cancel this shit somebody

Kaleidoscope Funk Network (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

If someone came up to me and said "hey, if you cut off a finger, I can arrange for Wolf Blitzer to be fired and run out of the news business" I might consider the offer.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

i think trying to play down the middle of the political spectrum has killed their viability

hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

their "objectivity" was always a total joke anyway

Kaleidoscope Funk Network (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder if the end of lou dobbs tonight has had much of an effect

bodacious cowboy (hobbes), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
three months pass...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/08/morgan.replaces.king/index.html?hpt=C1

will anyone notice?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Will he have to wear those braces too?

StanM, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Not black or white: It's 'brown' comedy

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/31/obeidallah.brown.comedy/index.html?hpt=C2

Hundreds of people recently jammed themselves into a basement in New York City to listen to people with names like Mohammed, Nader, Aasif and Maysoon. What were they up to? Should the authorities be contacted? Is it time to raise the terror alert?

Nope, it was just another episode of "The Big Brown Comedy Hour," a stand-up show featuring a diverse group of comedians: Arabs, Indians, Iranians, Pakistanis and others...

Cunga, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

zomg I saw this just now on CNN and my brain exploded.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"What if I told you Muslims were bringing the house down tonight -- not with blocks of C4 strapped to their chests, but through the power of comedy and laughter?"

Cunga, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

"Did you know that Arabs, Indians & Pakistanis are FUNNY?"

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

They aren't black, Hispanic or white. They're brown.

Often, "hispanic" people refer to themselves as brown. Just saying!

kkvgz, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Soooo...where does John Boehner fit into this category? Or is he more Orange.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate their views but I could watch and marvel at Fox's bluster a thousand times before I can stomach Wolf Blitzer single out a blue tie the President's wearing and asking, "Is it a purple tie for bipartisanship?"

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I can buy that. It's like the way NPR radio sometimes acts like it's a nature program for humans. And in doing this detached bemused reportage pushes its subjects down worse than if they just came out and said, "I cannot relate to you on any level so I am going to pretend that I can."

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Wolf Blitzer was hyping an Osama bin Laden story after the break, new information about his last days: "...the love letters he was writing, the attacks he was planning." The wording made me laugh. Feels like it needs a third part: "the parties he was planning," "the scrapbooks he was assembling," "the blogs he was launching," something like that. At least he was keeping busy, I guess.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link

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deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...
three months pass...

CNN had Jamal Simmons on today as a commentator. He was on pretty much every day in 2008, hardly at all in 2012, and haven't seen him since. Liked him a lot in '08--hope he's back on a regular basis.

clemenza, Monday, 18 January 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

CNN (TV news in general) gets pilloried around here--I do it all the time--but Jake Tapper's interview with Scott Cross, the victim who spoke out against Dennis Hastert, was as good as it gets. I missed the Hastert story completely, till today (he was just released from prison).

clemenza, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Making this title available to the world for a book on modern-day media's (especially CNN, and especially during the pandemic) 24-hour breaking-news/panic addiction: No News Is Terrible News.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

I generally like Jim Acosta, but this morning, in the space of 10 seconds--prefacing both with "As I like to call it"--he said "bonfire of the insanities" and "lord of the lies." Ouch.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

I guess Jeffrey Toobin has been reinstated.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/politics/supreme-court-first-amendment-cheerleader/index.html

clemenza, Wednesday, 23 June 2021 16:05 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

CNN chief executive Chris Licht to leave network after weeks of criticism
A tumultuous town hall with former president Donald Trump, a scathing article and ratings freefall preceded his downfall

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:22 (ten months ago) link

Just came to post that...Someone posted the Atlantic piece on a different thread; I downloaded it so it wouldn't disappear behind a paywall, planned to read it, now he's gone.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:24 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

that don lemon thing with musk is just TOOOO rich if you hate don lemon.

scott seward, Thursday, 14 March 2024 11:57 (one month ago) link


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