RFI : John Martyn

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Well I think he did both, so he did that when he was in England and then he spoke Scottish when he was in Scotland.

Keith, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra_uv0uIY-g

^ it's his 70s comedy cockney voice

Jaap and roids (NickB), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

To be fair to him, I can appreciate that. I am from Glasgow but would like to be cockney.

Keith, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

how is that Live at Leeds album? I've been tempted by the deluxe edition

Euler, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

the original is pretty great -- don't think i've heard the deluxe.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

xp

I love John Martyn, but I wouldn't say it's amazing. The deluxe one is better because it has MORE on it, but I despite its fame, I don't think it really does that much more over the records it's take from. I've seen him do amazing live versions of songs (Lookin' on, for example), but they're not on that record. I mean it's obviously good - I just feel like it could've been better, but then perhaps I suppose you'd always think that.

Keith, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link

shirlay <--- written in country dialect obv

― Jaap and roids (NickB), Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:10 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

hahaha!! <3

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 03:19 (eleven years ago) link

my favorite john martyn song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Jvp3QBwgY

cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, it's up there

Number None, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link

that's a really good one, agree

john martyn is some of my favorite road trippin music, no idea why

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

I only have/only know Solid Air. I should get Inside Out sometime since I vibe with shit like Starsailor/Lorca etc

hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Don't forget Bless the Weather - terrible cover, beautiful music

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

was listening to eibhli ghail (can't actually type out the whole title) from inside out on repeat yesterday. kozmiceltic.

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

which one has him wearing that crazy pointy hood on the front? That is an all time visual.

hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

you should definitely hear glistening glyndebourne off bless the weather, jon

Jaap and roids (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

i'm talking about the floating martynhead

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Bless_the_weather.jpg/220px-Bless_the_weather.jpg

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Martynhead sounds like one of the stations in 'I Often Dream of Trains'

hibernaculum (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

This is great - it's You Can Discover but also the coda to Call Me Crazy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz1RIwxYsCQ

Keith, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

probably my OPO, although there's so many worthy contenders....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8uNRWsmFY

Lee626, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

Indeed that one's definitely up there, although as you say, with about 50 others, but it is indeed a personal favourite.

One guy once described listening to John Martyn as though time stops when you do it and I think that's pretty much a perfect description.

Keith, Thursday, 31 January 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

huh. maybe that's why it's good road trippin music?

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 January 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

that's true for me & "Small Hours", such a peaceful record, can just drift away

Euler, Thursday, 31 January 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Bless The Weather is alltime. I got absolutely blitzed on Balvenie last night and night and it was perfect, sounding great with the hangover as well.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 16 February 2013 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/folk/boxset-john-martyn-the-island-years-box-set-2013/invt/0602537422883/

The Island Years is the most exhaustive career retrospective from one of Britain’s most original and enduring singer/songwriters. Housed in an LP size hard-back slip case, this lavish box set contains 18 Discs including:

• 17 CDs featuring 12 key studio albums, recorded for Island between 1967 and 1987, now with previously unreleased mixes, Out-Takes, unheard songs and 2 complete, previously unreleased live solo concerts from 1972 and 1977 and the complete demos for The Apprentice, the last album Martyn delivered to Island.
• 1 DVD containing rare television performances from the Old Grey Whistle Test, Sight and Sound – In Concert, A Little Night Music and first time on DVD for the VHS release, Foundations.
• A hard-back book featuring a new essay by The Island Years compiler and researcher John Hillarby plus rare and previously unseen photographs and extensive memorabilia.

There is a strong selection of previously unreleased alternative takes from Martyn’s career defining 70s albums Stormbringer, The Road To Ruin, Bless The Weather, Solid Air, Inside Out, Sunday’s Child and One World; plus there are extensive outtakes and a number of unreleased songs from Martyn’s 80s Island releases: Grace And Danger, Sapphire and Piece By Piece.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

170 quid, haha!

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link

WANT

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

yeah looks neato. $170 for 17 CDs + book + DVD doesn't sound insane.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

suppose it's only fitting that they want an arm and a leg for it

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

eeeyowch

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link

Have still never listened to any JM later than Grace & Danger. Anyone know much about the stuff that came after? What am I missing out on?

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

I have Piece by Piece and I think it's horrible (but am not sure I have even listened all the way through because it was so horrible). Maybe it's an undiscovered classic waiting to be given a second chance.

Grace and Danger, however, is another matter. For me, it's close to perfection and an album I'll never tire of. I took it to our club recently and wrote about it here:

http://devonrecordclub.com/2013/10/20/john-martyn-grace-and-danger-round-55-toms-selection/

yugi ex, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

I was going to revive this thread, because I heard One World for the first time this week. Such an incredible record, totally out-there but also really warm and organic. It's totally balearic.

Matt DC, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

the OGWT clip of that song is amazing

buzza, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

Oh man, One World is such a great album! 'Dancing' is one of the all-time great morning-after comedown tunes

Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

I did update a different thread about that boxset as an £8 dl, off amazon

Mistake, I guess, it's gone now

Mark G, Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

I bought it for £1.99 from play.com! But the download doesn't work at all and I reckon when I get in touch, they'll probably just give me a refund.

gotta lol geir (NickB), Sunday, 20 October 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

wow @ One World

ciderpress, Sunday, 13 November 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

The song "May you never" is really disturbing. It is quite clearly an incredibly tender song, but one that sounds like it was written by a serial abuser. Its so full of paranoia, its appeal to love is really a veiled threat. So much violence in the imagery, but pleading and pathetic. I've been gradually, increasingly troubled by this song since I started listening to Solid Air almost constantly last summer.

plax (ico), Friday, 16 June 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

Definitely feel what you're saying here. Martyn's alcohol consumption surely had a lot to do with the more, uhm, unsettling aspects of some his narratives.

'Make No Mistake' is another disturbing one.

Austin, Friday, 16 June 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

"Head and Heart" has made me pause before -- it's a really tender song but idk how healthy it is to want to be loved like a child
guy had problems, news at 11

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

The guy was an absolute horror but what can you do?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

Exactly. Martyn's lyrics are so slurred that I've rarely paid attention despite having listened to him for 30 years. I wouldn't care to read a biography of the man but I'll continue to return to a large number of his albums.

I also love Miles Davis' music despite his horrific character, which I'll admit is pretty much irrelevant to me.

doug watson, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

I mean I think what's wonderful and terrible about May You Never is that it *is* so romantic. It is a very moving song, and there is a real appeal in it. For me I had loved it for a long time before I started to taste the poison in it. I was thinking about him when I was in Hastings at the weekend on the beach.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link


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