C/D/S/D: Minutemen

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he looks like mark e smith with Snape's hair.

Be Glad for the Snorg Has No End (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

Always warms my heart reading love for the Minutemen on here. Which reminds me: I'm talking to Mike Watt on Friday! I'll be sure to link to the interview when it's up some time next month.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

what's the deal with his upcoming tour macdara? any idea who he's playing with?

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

The deal with his upcoming tour: http://hootpage.com/hoot_ilsogno-d-m-labustagialla.html

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

There's a date for Dublin on 4 March (though tickets aren't on sale yet) hence my contacting for an interview. He's been a very busy man the last few years, hopefully he's happy to talk all about it!

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

I should check out that new album with the Italian guys on Spotify. Anyone heard it?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's good, I've listened to most of it, need to give it another spin or two tomorrow. Definitely a mellower experience than the Third Opera.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

Saw them in April 1985 in Providence, eight months before D. Boon died. Amazing night. I remember Boon using duct tape to fix a problem with his guitar — probably something you wouldn’t see The Edge do.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

listening to Double Nickel On A Dime right now fyi

:D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

oops i mean double nickelS on THE dime

(rookie mistake)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

I never got to hear 'em until about a week or two before Boon died. :( Couldn't find their records in my time, but Muchmusic aired the videos for "King of the Hill" and "This Ain't No Picnic" on their "underground" show.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

...couldn't find their records in my TOWN. But "time" works too, since I didn't find a copy of "Double Nickels" until nearly a year later.

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

So I spoke to Mike Watt for like an hour-and-a-half yesterday. Man I was nervous as hell - it was my first phoner, and it's intimidating meeting your heroes! - but he was totally gracious and cool, of course. Lots to transcribe but I'll post the link when the piece is done.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 2 February 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago) link

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manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

minutemen rule obv

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 February 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

I was informed by the devotees over on the Watt list that none of the Minutemen material actually needs a remaster. Could have fooled me.

Would certainly love to see a lot of SST stuff getting upgraded properly while the cd is still a medium. THere's a lot of very interesting material that the label released over the years that I'd like to get in best possible audio. & I think it's probably the best part of 20 years since most of it was translated to cd and the medium has advanced a lot since then hasn't it?

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 February 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

The all acoustic bit in their documentary was pretty amazing, and made me want to see more...

dlp9001, Saturday, 2 February 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

I was informed by the devotees over on the Watt list that none of the Minutemen material actually needs a remaster. Could have fooled me.

Haha! As a Wall list member myself (I think you're the only other one I've met IRL) I can say that for me it depends on the record. 'What Makes A Man...' is the one I like the least because the sound is so dry; in fact I used to work with a guy who absolutely hated it because the guitar is so trebly (though that was intentional on D Boon's part; it's the record where the guitar and bass sound most polarised).

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:49 (eleven years ago) link

Wall list? Gah early mornings. Obviously I meant Watt list.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:49 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So I said I was talking to Watt before his current Euro tour, and the piece went online yesterday. It's a bit of a longread.

http://thumped.com/band-interviews/mike-watt-still-jamming-econo.html

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 21 February 2013 08:35 (eleven years ago) link

Very nice. Will read it all later

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 February 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

yeah good stuff, at least what i've read so far. Watt is always great to talk to -- one of my first interviews and still one of the best.

some dude, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

xxp to make a well-worn point I don't think any critical need for Minutemen remastering on CD compares to Husker Du.....not just for the whole Spot/SST thing but that both bands were sonically so different. Different needs.

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Probably missed this already shared elsewhere on here but if it wasn't...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4W5jP_Gmrg

It was 1985. Brett & my bdays are in June. We had both just graduated from college. We had a birthday/graduation party at his mom's house on the outskirts of San Pedro. The Minutemen played. It was a great day.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

Ooh, can't wait to watch that properly when I get home!

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link

Odd to think that this band playing in someone's mom's driveway is near the end of their career, rather than the beginning. Boon would die later that year. This video is fantastic, thanks Ned.

Fakeprog Nilsson (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

Yer welcome!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link

epic.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

It's takes about 17 minutes to get warmed up and work out equipment stuff, then BANG ZOOM POW

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

To a lot of people in 1985 (myself included), the Minutemen were one of the 2-3 best bands in the world. To have them play in your driveway ...

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:28 (ten years ago) link

So this happened two months after I saw them in Providence, RI.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link

Awww. I still need to read that Mike Watt talking about his fave albums interview I saw recently. Finally read that thing about how he grabs some sleep before gigs on tour (with that sad initial reference in it to the vehicle crash when D Boon died).

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link

I love the way Watt thinks, and the way he phrases things:

"The way T. Rex records were released on eight-track cartridges was also influential on Minutemen I think. The way eight-tracks were mechanically organised is they'd cut right into the songs, end them half way through, divide them up, so it was like that Wire thing again."

A Perfect Ratio of Choogle to Jam (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 15 March 2014 18:41 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the way he speaks and the way he thinks are utterly unique.

So cool that he finally met and played with Blue Oyster Cult after all these years!

acluelessdic (some dude), Saturday, 15 March 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

Oh man that Quietus thing is so wonderful. Watt is probably the most enjoyable interview in the world. The way he speaks about music, art, life, and everything is just so sincere, open-minded, big-hearted, and like others are saying, totally unique and flavorful. And it's so sweet how he never stops talking about D. Boon and what a big deal he was to him.

This is also good timing because I just bought a hugely expensive plane ticket to see him close out the Missingmen tour in London. I saw them do the opera in Minneapolis in 2012 and it was easily a top 3 all-time live concert experience for me.

JRN, Saturday, 15 March 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

That driveway party is so awesome! The biggest Minutemen mystery for me is how this working class band from San Pedro raised on CCR and BOC and inspired by punk even accidentally turned into this leftwing jazz-fusion juggernaut.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 March 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Been listening to an old cd of Double Nickels in my car over the last couple days. It sounds perfect, especially when compared to Husker Du from the same era. Must have to do with the fact that Minutemen used no distortion at all, no overdubs etc. ive never heard the full Double Nickels with the missing songs.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 9 May 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link

man that Quietus thing is great, missed that

The thing I found about getting older is the danger is you think you know it all, and I try to fight that, man, 'cause everyone's got something to teach you.

love this dude

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Friday, 9 May 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

Love the shoutout for Tyranny and Mutation. I always knew these guys were into BOC

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Friday, 9 May 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

They covered 'The Red and The Black', twice, and they gave a lyrical shout-out to E Bloom. They were even set to work with him before D Boon's accident. They were demonstrably BOC fans!

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Saturday, 10 May 2014 08:54 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Okay so I think any fan will need this book talked about here:

http://larecord.com/interviews/2015/06/04/a-wailing-of-a-town-an-oral-history-of-early-san-pedro-punk-interview

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 June 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link

Direct order link here -- hell, I'm getting it now.

http://endfwy.bigcartel.com/product/a-wailing-of-a-town-an-oral-history-of-early-san-pedro-punk-and-more-1977-1985

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 June 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

Yes, can't wait to read it!

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 5 June 2015 12:56 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

What a vast, daunting catalog -- yet approachable. I tried my best.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

yeah it's tough to pick 20! I also love "If Reagan Played Disco" and "Jesus & Tequila" and "Corona" and "Cohesion" and "Paranoid Chant"

sleeve, Friday, 25 August 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link

“The Red and the Black,” named after Stendhal’s classic novel about political intrigue in post-Napoleonic France.

Pretty sure that's a secondhand reference to the color scheme of a police force that works. Dogsled on ice.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link

I saw somewhere a few months ago where Joe Strummer was asked to name the greatest punk band of all time, and he said something like "Probably the Minutemen, right?"
― andy, Friday, 8 February 2002 01:00 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just looked this up because I thought that was pretty cool if Joe did say that, but not quite:

Spin: Who would you say were the ultimate punk band?

Joe Strummer: The Television Personalities

Spin: Really?

Joe Strummer: Well, they're second place. First place are the Ramones. They're the daddy punk rock group of all time. The Television Personalities, they're slightly obscure, but they brought a severe sense of intelligence to it, just at a time when punk needed the piss taken out of it. And three, maybe I'd put in the Buzzcocks. Oh yeah, the Minutemen. Big ups to the Minutemen!

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

Nice writeup, as usual! A few other favorites of mine: Cut, Take Our Test, My Heart and the Real World

Pretty sure that's a secondhand reference to the color scheme of a police force that works. Dogsled on ice.

Definitely sure it's a Blue Oyster Cult cover.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 August 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

In which our hero, Mike Watt, pops in to comment on some soundcloud podcast about his music:

https://soundcloud.com/that-record-got-me-high-podcast/s2e50-minutemen-double-nickels-on-the-dime?fbclid=IwAR3yxUNXJJEt98VDR8yWpWgzOvlzX83pV19T_hrF-DtFVGuDEtSJFBXN8RE

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 July 2019 03:27 (four years ago) link


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