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less gothy witch house

乒乓, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

ah there it is . http://metrophone.bandcamp.com/
right now i know nothing about it

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

sebastien, do u just listen or do u also make music?

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:52 (eleven years ago) link

this juche album is super pretty

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

i am not making music right now. haven't recorded anything since, hehe, sounds weird since it was another tech time and etc but i gave up recording stuff after reading a review of Sparklehorse – Good Morning Spider , in a time when reading was listening for broke ppl. ehhe. it had nothing to do with what i was doing, eh, it was more like ariel pink's impression of charlotte gainsbourg weird stuff. i was disturbing myself. before that i had a few dat of intl. quality noise tracks still lying somewhere. plus i have a show of late gov.alpha in there too. lots of space on those DATs. i made some images recently in a pains style, and have downloaded audacity so who knows.

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:30 (eleven years ago) link

DATs. might as well say i will never listen to that stuff again and it's ok.
listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=guZueuki4-Q linked upthread. missed it first time around, nice vid

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:51 (eleven years ago) link

meshes of the afternoon meets overeager sales pitch

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:54 (eleven years ago) link

a lot of the vapor stuff feels so transient and inconsequential which i imagine is by design but leaves me feeling very unfulfilled after long listening session - like i've just been sold a timeshare that doesn't exist

Mordy, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, and if some artists feels more "hook" generous" it must be a particularity from the listener's point of view but overall you are right. it's a monotonous rumination that is timely and i particularly like that it has a certain rebellious philosophy at heart. it is with self-awareness that it creates a space where certain concepts can be made to be used for the next "genre".

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 06:14 (eleven years ago) link

i must add : i am interested in listener generated perceptions of hooks and also i am drunk : apology of an unfaithful culture consumerist

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/yorkmorgan/zoe
http://i.imgur.com/cL3vG26.jpg
fuck off with this forced bullshit
http://metro-ko.tumblr.com/#41223466804

Christ this is so pretentious.

You guys notice shit like Vaporwave,
Chillwave, Seapunk and other stupid trends that come and go and try to hop on by making up some bullshit new genre.

There are already dozens of bands that make droney type music that fits this "aesthetic", but you faggots don't even care about that. It's like Witch House, album art, pretentious naming and the "lifestyle" of the music comes before the actual music.

You are no better than those kids who start a band and don't actually write any songs.

and yeah, this is gimmicky as fuck, but there's definitely potential in the music if people stop rushing effortless shit out.

The problem is that the music is an afterthought. The people who post in these threads clearly just want to be relevant and if the genre did get big (and then die out very quickly like all these genres) they could say "I was part of that". Music should be made because you feel right making it and natural, not because you have to fit into some requirements that some guy on /mu/ told you it has to be.

That is true, but I imagine people will calm down and spend more time and effort on their tracks soon. Just here in the beginning people are eager to try, and want to get stuff out as quickly as possible.

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nobody even knows what metro-ko is

right now it's just "vaguely city feeling electronic music"
****************** That made me think of a thread i have saw recently-ish, that i thought i had saved, about city driving electronic music feel or something... basically it was about techno. can't find the keywords to find it. ilx enhanced suite.

the way i see it, the genre will die out as fast as vaporwave does unless somebody makes an extremely creative well thought out and interesting album that actually evokes emotion. i'd actually be interested in hearing something like that.

Sébastien, Monday, 28 January 2013 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

The problem is that the music is an afterthought.

mistaking the problem for a feature

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:16 (eleven years ago) link

wd do a "T/S vaporwave vs influential albums" thread but imaginary dichotomies

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2013 09:18 (eleven years ago) link

hat made me think of a thread i have saw recently-ish, that i thought i had saved, about city driving electronic music feel or something... basically it was about techno.

this one?
Recommend me some FUTURISTIC, METROPOLITAN TECHNO

ramblin' evil mushroom (clouds), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

less gothy witch house

What is the point of less gothy witch house?

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

says the goth

Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

less gothy witchhouse = house?

crüt, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago) link

clouds, that's the one. thank you!

Sébastien, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

ya this is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCt_VV4_Nf4

ramblin' evil mushroom (clouds), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

vaporwave deriviative product very early in it's alpha phase : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_cringe pickling. proof of concept no.1 named "low hanging fruits" : "It's Gonna Rain"-esque minimalist musical juxtaposition of beatles hits rip-off by "exotic" bands with the original real deal.

proof of concept no.2 : same recipe as no.1 but applied to ccr bad moon rising and les cyniques ah si j'étais milionnaire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZgV0_746Ng
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Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

ah si j'aurais de l'argent / I hear hurricanes ablowing

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/mjruQWN.jpg

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago) link

how is this going to work unless you are from the cultural cringe culture and know which part of that culture to recontextualise?

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Anon

well yeah, where are you my people?

but seriously, i know this thread is somewhat of a shot in the dark but the innenets is known to be a hub of many cultures . who knows, maybe you are a native french speaker and so am i and here we are communicating in english because it is the thing that is expected of us do in this context.

that said, it is possible that you have lights to shine on what is happening in other cultures than your own: i bet most post-colonial studies was written by straight white guys who speaks english badot dot dot

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ky5ClIjL8
you know what i am talking about so let's make an exhaustive list right here

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link

ok now im on another trip i rather like that honest cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EC9vgUONE

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 07:20 (eleven years ago) link

"honest" ... made me think of em "yéyé" again, that i still don't know that much about; i think they were received a notch above novelty songs, like a therapeutical gesture, most of the pop not knowing english it must have been a nice way to engage with that "collective energy"/ marketing and release it in a way ; in a jokey way or whatever

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 07:47 (eleven years ago) link

visualizing gainsbourg ironically unnerving the crowd to get em to toss some cash money on the stage and picking it all up very much unironically because he was poor, and mumbling to himself "so this is what they like ... i'll give em some more, then."

Sébastien, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

increasingly enjoying these alternate universe projections of my own teenagerhood by people who were babies at the time.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 February 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There's so much of this stuff (the music that the thread was originally about, not the other types of derivativeness immediately above) that it's hard to know what's noteworthy, but I like this comp: http://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/the-music-of-the-now-age

Dan I., Thursday, 14 March 2013 05:57 (eleven years ago) link

Haha ok, and I guess Eco Virtual, who made this good "album" or whatever: http://ecovirtual.bandcamp.com/ is not the same thing as the Beer on the Rug artist 情報デスクVIRTUAL ???

Dan I., Thursday, 14 March 2013 06:07 (eleven years ago) link

oops you already mentioned eco virtual! Too much "virtual"

Dan I., Thursday, 14 March 2013 06:09 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

i listened that one 5 or 6 times last nite
http://ailanthusrecordings.bandcamp.com/track/rlyeh

Sébastien, Sunday, 12 May 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

such a jam

flopson, Sunday, 12 May 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Nxo9COs.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Nxo9COs.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Nxo9COs.jpg
https://soundcloud.com/predefined_transitions/basvapemix
i did a little mix with some of my favorite tracks:
MEDIAFIRED - pepsi van
情報デスクVIRTUAL - iMYSTIQUE エジプト航空「EDU」
rad magma - distractions
Mensa Group International - r lyeh
Sacred Tapestry- cosmorama
LATE NIGHT DELIGHT - cant afford
laserdisc visions - third wave
bewilderbeast - human
fortune 500 - self-discovery
http://i.imgur.com/Nxo9COs.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Nxo9COs.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Nxo9COs.jpg

Sébastien, Friday, 17 May 2013 05:37 (ten years ago) link

actually i am still sort of on the fence about bewilderbeast - human, but with "only" 2 "big" tracks (the opening one +r'lyeh) i felt it needed an extra splash of color.

Sébastien, Friday, 17 May 2013 05:41 (ten years ago) link

i dig the cheap perfume of stuff like luxury elite, infinty frequencies, laserdisc visions

brimstead, Monday, 20 May 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link

Sébastien, I like the deep ambient trash angle you’re working w/ this mix, which curates a smidgeon of modernist avant functionalism to its post-everything pallet - is this where the purists bail f/ a more sternly ironic grade of po-faced plasticism that negates even stoner jouissance? (ambient almost by definition suffused w/ humanist ethos aka choking solemnity, though noize is technically ambient if still insufficiently profane).

feel like Eno, w/ parallel ambient/pop/no-wave tinkering casts a long shadow, which in itself is antithetical to v’wave’s crack binge of f5 hermaneutics, but some shit ambient deluxe from Alec Empire never hurts:

Sweet: http://youtu.be/QLqYN1oZ8go
Limited 05: http://youtu.be/_uEMpmuJ6nI
It Should Be You Not Me: http://youtu.be/36U--ieVc10

^^^
AE always delivers irony, but his trash traffics heavily in fetishized urban decay authenticity, granted, certainly not enuff Miami Vice keys + prob. at root oppositional to cutthroat chase of perpetually receding cathexis. (proto-v'wave excursion implodes epiphany, carry on).

Hellhouse, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link

what

ḉrut (crüt), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

thanks for the comment hellhouse, deep ambient trash is a good description to what i was going for - not a mix that is representative of the genre.

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hey , there's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C5YAc6L_KQ

quite the pop thing.

Sébastien, Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

barf

Romantic style in da world (crüt), Thursday, 4 July 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

"deep ambient trash" otm.

i have to admit i was kind of thrilled to find this stuff, such brazen, consummate, overwhelming kitsch. this is what i wanted chillwave to be before it all just turned into indie. i think there's a core of numbness pulling at vaporwave which separates it from more blissful&beautiful [or sinister&dark] ambient or the triumph of far side virtual. there are hints of a subaqueous logic that might tie it all together, but a lot of these guys seem like loop monomaniacs & it's not helping them

ogmor, Friday, 5 July 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

my favorite vaporwave is kinda conspiratorial/cryptographic like UVB-76 - like junk arranged w. intention

Mordy , Friday, 5 July 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link

vaporware's a cool concept I think for its brashness but it's just some shit to listen to for 5 secs really

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 July 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

this is what i wanted chillwave to be before it all just turned into indie

― ogmor, Thursday, July 4, 2013 5:54 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eric copeland's alien in a garbage dump would prob be a good listen if you haven't already?

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 July 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link

vaporware's a cool concept I think for its brashness but it's just some shit to listen to for 5 secs really

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, July 4, 2013 6:04 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean its also a thing people probably make in five seconds so there's no real loss or anything

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 July 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link

yeah, copeland is great

ogmor, Friday, 5 July 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link

"deep ambient trash" otm.

i have to admit i was kind of thrilled to find this stuff, such brazen, consummate, overwhelming kitsch. this is what i wanted chillwave to be before it all just turned into indie. i think there's a core of numbness pulling at vaporwave which separates it from more blissful&beautiful [or sinister&dark] ambient or the triumph of /far side virtual/. there are hints of a subaqueous logic that might tie it all together, but a lot of these guys seem like loop monomaniacs & it's not helping them

jamming vaporwave while reading tao lin

乒乓, Friday, 5 July 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

right now im deep vibing to the vaporwave they're playing.in the pret a manger im sat outside. also dyao otm re tao lin

ogmor, Friday, 5 July 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

wow neat, first fortune500 release since 2014? Wonder if these are all “old” tracks

brimstead, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

They’re not

calstars, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

Nxd are you on insta / twitter?

calstars, Saturday, 1 October 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

am on insta but dont really use it much tbh
will dm anyway x

nxd, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:05 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2cWur60ozU

David Crosby, seminal vaporwave vocalist

calstars, Friday, 14 October 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/pfsNTTs.jpg

Please let me unfollow 100 pct whatever

calstars, Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

nico niquo is back!

https://orangemilkrecords.bandcamp.com/album/esperanto

just one track at the moment, album drops april 14

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 09:45 (one year ago) link

couple of new nmesh tracks too

https://nmesh.bandcamp.com/album/on-the-telephone-preferred-stock

nxd, Monday, 30 January 2023 09:53 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

speaking of Nmesh here's 34 minute video featuring a bunch of the samples from Dream Sequins. wonder if whoever made this was in contact with him cuz otherwise idk how you'd manage to find all this stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWPsr8hP8_s

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

A lot of fans spend time tracking down samples. Check out the deciphering lists on RYM.

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/LilLiam/deciphering-%E7%8C%AB-%E3%82%B7-corp/

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/LilLiam/deciphering-t-e-l-e-p-a-t-h/

calstars, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link

the stuff that appears on an album or a movie I understand, it's the ones that sample 40 year old commercials & interviews that probably only aired once that really impress me. one would think some of that stuff was just lost to time forever.

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

nice work!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 07:09 (one year ago) link

always enjoy these finds

nxd, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHCjkEJ4CU

calstars, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link

well that's a jam

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 08:07 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

whoa, randomly a new Computer Dreams release on Fortune 500

https://fortune500.bandcamp.com/album/time-slips

brimstead, Monday, 5 June 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link

I love it when legends return

calstars, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:36 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9URZgAqeqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgfKjUX1EHQ

Who did it better?

calstars, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:51 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

found the latest blank banshee record a bit meh - maybe a bit too idm for me
otoh new dan mason album is sounding great

nxd, Friday, 20 October 2023 09:29 (five months ago) link

Dan Mason is about as “vaporwave” as Charli XCX at this point. He uses katakana next to his name tho so…

calstars, Friday, 20 October 2023 12:03 (five months ago) link

oooh yeah new Dan Mason is cool, maybe the artwork is leading me but it definitely scratches a very specific itch

think 'vaporwave' as we know it is dead but it has splintered off into a half-dozen subgenres all of which I think are way more interesting than like, Chuck Person and Floral Shoppe

frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 14:17 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMzqaNS5sn0

The OG returns

calstars, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:33 (five months ago) link

A.S.L. 2050 : SNOW IN WONDERLAND

Taken from Album Yann Tomita “Music For Living Sound” CD-ROM (excerpt /unreleased clip) 1998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0dgbkFFfDo

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:43 (five months ago) link

Sounds like a new avalanches single, just needs some dumb beat behind it

calstars, Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:55 (five months ago) link

hahaha ouch!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:29 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

https://exotapes.bandcamp.com/album/div-s-paradise

Thank you bandcamp daily for alerting me to a second mediafired album I didn’t know existed

calstars, Sunday, 18 February 2024 13:44 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

https://computer-gaze.bandcamp.com/album/dream-recovery

this is still the best signalwave album

brimstead, Thursday, 11 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link

I don't f with signalwave much but telepath's pink album would be my answer: https://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/--11

calstars, Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:03 (one week ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/g8PJL03.jpeg

calstars, Saturday, 13 April 2024 04:11 (five days ago) link


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