reads better than:
On the way home that night we decided to form a band — Warsaw. Stiff Kittens or something.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like Hooky begging for his former job back.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 January 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
I know he is a figure of fun here these days but I'm about a third of the way through Hooky's JD memoir and am really enjoying it. What am I missing?
― Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
I finally get it!― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, September 15, 2004 9:18 PM (8 years ago)
― j., Friday, 29 March 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
Looking at it now, I guess my question reads along the lines of something like " if the Velvet Underground are so popular, why are there so many threads making fun of Lou Reed?"
― Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 March 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://adamcap.com/2011/05/19/history-of-joy-division-unknown-pleasures-album-art/
― calstars, Sunday, 19 May 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
Where is the image of the parody t-shirt which was on another thread recently?
― Beam Me Up (I Feel Like Being A) Doomsday Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 May 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link
i think that was on Defend the Indefensible: Joy Division, one of my favorite thread titles on this site because of its.. i think the word used here is "challopsy-ness". anyway, does anyone else love the song Interzone? one of my top 5 JD tracks easily
― Michigan seems like a dream to me now (Treeship), Sunday, 19 May 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
Interzone is great. I've got this cycle going now where I get the N.F. Porter song "Keep On Keepin' On," which has a very similar riff (and according to the JD documentary they were encouraged to cover by a manager, I think) going through my head and then Warsaw's version, then the Joy Division version and back again.
― benedict crumbsnatcher (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 19 May 2013 05:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.willlovetearusapart.com/
It's some kind of game inspired by the song, seems very resource-intensive and I didn't have the patience to see it through tbh.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 7 June 2013 10:27 (ten years ago) link
Joy Division tapes 'saved from skip'
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 16 August 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link
I was hoping the Peter Hook memoir would be chock full of cocaine thoughts and it delivers!
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
I bought it last week but it's already annoyed me so much in the first chapter that I can't imagine i'll ever pick it up again.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 10 October 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
I saw Peter Hook a couple months ago playing all of Movement and Power, Corruption, and Lies (+ some other songs such as "Procession"). He's not bad! Really not bad at all.
― fields of salmon, Friday, 15 November 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
So Brittany Spanos is reporting on Twitter that Iggy Pop is currently being backed by New Order covering Joy Division songs. Apparently "Transmission" and "Love Will Tear Us Apart" were played at the least.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 01:25 (ten years ago) link
hah, just posted on facebook about that. A friend of mine reported the same.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 01:28 (ten years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/lbJVFWtLKX/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 02:27 (ten years ago) link
originally read that as "Britney Spears is reporting etc."
― Treeship, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 02:31 (ten years ago) link
not sure what to think about this. it really is bizarre.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 06:25 (ten years ago) link
Ian Curtis heavily inspired by Iggy so not so bizzare.
― Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 07:27 (ten years ago) link
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2014/03/11/new-order-iggy-pop-joy-division-love-will-tear-us-apart/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 12:04 (ten years ago) link
From Brittany's review:
The evening then arrived to the concert "headliners," if that's an appropriate term for a benefit. Bernard Sumner, Phil Cunningham and Tom Chapman of New Order brought on stage Manchester poet Mike Garry and composer Jo Duddell for a special performance of Garry's poem "St. Anthony" set to New Order's "Your Silent Face." Making it even more special is who the poem had been written in honor of -- Factory Records' owner Tony Wilson. Wilson of course, discovered them all when they were Joy Division.The most excellent and fulfilling of the surprises came from Iggy Pop's entrance on stage to perform a trio of songs with New Order. Dressed in an oversized black blazer, dress pants, and no shirt, Iggy Pop looked particularly buttoned up with only part of his bare chest peeking beneath the suit. He made a very Iggy Pop show of New Order's "California Grass" before the evening's most audience-rousing pair of performances arrived as the collaborators dove into two Joy Division tracks. Pop took over Joy Division's "Transmission" as patrons jumped to their feet to "dance, dance, dance, dance, dance" as the song commands. Pop's voice has aged nicely, even deeper and with more resonance as he perfectly delivered a vocal reminiscent of the late Joy Division singer Ian Curtis' deep tone. Excitement heightened as they transitioned into "Love Will Tear Us Apart" and more people jumped to their feet and ran towards the stage to continue dancing and jumping and taking part in this truly remarkable moment. Sumner took over the majority of vocal duties though Pop did the refrain justice.
The most excellent and fulfilling of the surprises came from Iggy Pop's entrance on stage to perform a trio of songs with New Order. Dressed in an oversized black blazer, dress pants, and no shirt, Iggy Pop looked particularly buttoned up with only part of his bare chest peeking beneath the suit. He made a very Iggy Pop show of New Order's "California Grass" before the evening's most audience-rousing pair of performances arrived as the collaborators dove into two Joy Division tracks. Pop took over Joy Division's "Transmission" as patrons jumped to their feet to "dance, dance, dance, dance, dance" as the song commands. Pop's voice has aged nicely, even deeper and with more resonance as he perfectly delivered a vocal reminiscent of the late Joy Division singer Ian Curtis' deep tone. Excitement heightened as they transitioned into "Love Will Tear Us Apart" and more people jumped to their feet and ran towards the stage to continue dancing and jumping and taking part in this truly remarkable moment. Sumner took over the majority of vocal duties though Pop did the refrain justice.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
Um, wasn't Iggy on Ian's turntable when he hung himself? Something sort of ... unseemly about this.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 14:35 (ten years ago) link
His album was, yes.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Should have brought Werner Herzog and a chicken on for the encore.
― Alba, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
That's actually the one thing about it that doesn't feel dumb to me. There's no way of knowing what anybody's last hour was actually like, of course, but I think of The Idiot on the turntable as signifying "let me hear some music I love one last time" or possibly "maybe playing an album I like will help; it used to help."
― (or if you must, "data") (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link
Bernard Sumner, Phil Cunningham and Tom Chapman of New Order
who?
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
Phil has been in New Order for 10yrs longer than Joy Division was active.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
Aero, that was a really insightful and humanizing comment. It's easy to be removed from everything Ian was going through, poor bastard.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
otm.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:51 (ten years ago) link
holy shit that's a terrifying thought
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 March 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
subtract the years they were split though
― Charles, hatless (sic), Thursday, 13 March 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
@peter_hook1Very sad to hear the news today about Annik Honore - we'll be playing Atmosphere tonight for her. Hope she's sat up there with Ian. RIP.
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Friday, 4 July 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
She was so much more than Ian's other woman, though - she played a big role bringing attention to some great European bands.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 July 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link
Yeah we talk about her on the Disques du Crepuscule thread
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 5 July 2014 08:27 (nine years ago) link
Good old Hooky, still claiming the JD legacy for himself.
― goth colouring book (anagram), Saturday, 5 July 2014 11:25 (nine years ago) link
So, 34 years ago I was listening to Closer the week after it was released. And it meant EVERYTHING.
And now...it almost means more.
Ian is dead. Annik is dead. But the songs.. oh God, those songs. As much as I loved the band at the time, I never realised how much those words and those melodies coud mean, even 34 years later.
I really am too old for this to matter, but it does. "Here are the young men, a weight's on their shoulders.." and now they aren't young but the weight is still there.
We have carried the weight because of this music; these words. They really are that important and that magical. They aren't a band; they are a mystique that manages to transcend everything, even their future (and their future was magnificent).
So thanks Bernard, Peter, Stephen, Ian and Martin ( and Debbie and Annik because you, too, were part of this mythology). Thanks for every note, every idea, every tear, every laugh. You have helped to get me here, still alive and more rounded because of the music you created.
― Guilty_Boksen, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
I feel ya, man. When you live with albums, songs and people your whole life (practically), through the highest highs and lowest lows, the music, the myths and the people behind it mean more and more. Don't forget Tony Wilson, Peter Saville and Rob Gretton. All essential to the story of Joy Division.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 25 July 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link
Dunno if this has been mentioned on the rolling BBC4 thread, but tonight there is a documentary this evening on JD.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0543ytw
Looking forward to seeing Paul Morley's big squashy face.
― MaresNest, Friday, 27 February 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
*tonight/this evening* jeez, forgive my aprés work brain
― MaresNest, Friday, 27 February 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Les Brains Douche </supernerdyjoydivbootlegjoke>
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 27 February 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
That's the movie that was out a few years ago.
― dan selzer, Friday, 27 February 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
xpost
great documentary, chiefly for the archive footage of the band and around Manchester at the time, but I got really irate at that bloke who described Ian as 'bipolar'.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 28 February 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Watched a few bits, there have been a few JD docs: so curious how Deborah Curtis is a ghost in these...hated the conclusions of a regenerated Manchester whose nice plush housing is possibly unaffordable to most of the people that work there.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M4Itfodkac
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 07:16 (six years ago) link
I put my TRUST in you.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 07:17 (six years ago) link
Caring about betrayal is old-fashioned though because people are generally complete fucking shit in 2018.
Sometimes people are upset about things and turn to music an alcohol and the internet, and that's okay. I'm not the kind of pussy who grew up with Safe Spaces. I'm a different kind of pussy.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 07:20 (six years ago) link
POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread
― the future is now, Thursday, 11 January 2018 06:18 (six years ago) link