Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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yeah i'm friends w/the booker at the turf, could be possible...parr would just be good because i think he has a fairly consistent draw...lang has played some shows in the last couple years, sporadically

have you ever seen spider john? kind of crazy to be in the same room as the guy you know, and he's still good

My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

i felt very lucky to have seen koerner, ray, and glover at the 400 bar while everyone was still living

My Lol's Beyond (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Virginia has a long history with this stuff. I think it is just naturally part of the culture (parts of Virginia are very southern still). Mike Gangloff (Pelt, Black Twig Pickers etc.) actually goes around Virginia and West Virginia learning songs directly from folks. Really cool seeing a solo Gangloff show, in which he plays solo fiddle and banjo tunes with stories in between about the songs. He also writes some very cool originals. Highly recommend trying to see him if you are into that kind of thing.

grandavis, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

bachman live show on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mPSZ_DaIJU

tylerw, Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

jeez he's just a little kid!

bert yansh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Bachman is 21 or 22 or something, which is nuts to me. Really humble about his playing, can tell he wants to take it a lot farther, which is great. Excited to see where he goes with it.

grandavis, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

man how talented, wow

mh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

Cool thread. I made a spotify list of everything mentioned (or close to it anyway) so far.

http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/2WNjL5jGiUHaSu5CFkN9Xg

I watched Doyle Dykes at the NAMM show a couple days ago. He's kind of incredible.

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 28 January 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

Spottie! :-) welcome

baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

not sure if he quite fits in here, but i listened to this recent instrumental record by chris forsyth and it's pretty rad, kind of a fairport convention / popol vuh thing happening
http://soundcloud.com/chris-forsyth/sets/paranoid-cat-1

tylerw, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

That Chris Forsyth record is very cool (imo), and I think it fits here as far as what I want to get out of this thread. We posted a bunch about him in the rolling psych/drone 2012 thread, but this thread is dealing more with guitar-centric records of note (I think?) and he fits the bill. In league with the Dean McPhee but more expansive. I think Chris and Steve Gunn do similar stuff on an electric when they play with other musicians, and I like them both quite a bit. Think they each have some great records ahead of them.

grandavis, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

listening to forsyth now really good!

spottie thanks for making the playlist, very helpful

baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah glad to help. I have been into Blackshaw for over 5 years but have never really looked into this type of stuff too far beyond that. Got into that William Tyler a bit last year, though.

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, which Blackshaw record would be the best one to dive into? I have heard select songs that I liked, but I have no idea what albums they were from. I know he does some piano-based stuff, but I am most interested in his guitar playing, at least as a starting off point.

grandavis, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

either 'The Cloud of Unknowing' or 'O True Believers'

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

I like Cloud just ever so slightly ahead of Believers but both are great.

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

sunshrine is another good one. still kind of struggling with his more orchestrated later stuff -- it's good, but it seems less special than the more spare material.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks Spottie! Had "Cloud" recommended to me previously, so I think I will start there and move onto "Believers" after that. Something about this general strain of music that works really well in the winter-time.

grandavis, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

Spare is what I am looking for actually. Is "Sunshrine" more spare than "Cloud" or are they similar. I want the most undiluted guitar experience, if that makes sense.

grandavis, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:27 (eleven years ago) link

Well, "Believers" is what is on Spotify, so guess I am starting there.

grandavis, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

cloud is where he started drafting other musicians in i believe, but it's still pretty restrained in that respect. sunshrine is just him (i think) but there's some overdubbed ambient kinda stuff too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks!

grandavis, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

For some more Forsyth listening, this is from his last record "Kenzo Deluxe". It is a really mellow electric guitar thing set to soundtrack "the first ten minutes of cocksucker blues", which is what the song is called. Kinda slight in some ways, but it has really grown on me and is good morning listening/viewing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DDHj-TUOVA

grandavis, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Sunshrine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f4SpZXjFlM

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

Blackshaw is definite winter music.

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

Just listened to that whole "Sunshrine" youtube, great stuff! Definitely reminds me of early B. Chasny stuff, though it touches on a lot of other things (and the prominence of 12-string is of course different). I really love the early, very minimal part of it. Haven't gotten to explore much more yet, but excited to hear more for sure.

grandavis, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

really loving that "first ten minutes of cocksucker blues" forsyth thang.

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

i figure if we're posting stuff that's more "out there" than fahey/etc we can post stuff that's more "in there" too...Charlie Parr is a Mpls guy, stalwart folk/blues scene guy, done a ton of albums, always loved seeing him live and seems like a nice dude, he runs a little more towards country blues but he's a hell of a picker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kBHM8WRyHM

baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

there.

baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

Parr is great, somehow managed to never have seen him yet. He canceled at the Treehouse thing, but they said they'd try and have him back sometime. Can't say I follow his records much, I think I kinda 'get' his oeuvre with the one I currently have. But yeah, would love to see him live. He plays often enough.

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah his records are good, at least what i've heard, he's on spotify, that said, he's trad enough where you kind of end up wanting to listen to an old smithsonian thing or something

but live he's really great and the whole performance that i posted is great...he mentions the black twig pickers

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I have seen Mike Gangloff mention Charlie before, he is a fan (and vice versa). Doesn't Parr do some stuff with Alan Sparhawk as well? Think I saw that somewhere.

grandavis, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think black eyed snakes (another sparhawk band) played on the last album some? anyway, duluth music community (parr is actually duluth i shouldn't do that thing where mpls claims everyone that's from MN) is pretty tiny

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

I think I generally claim anyone making music in Virginia as "one of our own", for better or worse.

grandavis, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

i like charlie parr a lot!

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

dude i know put out daniel bachman vinyl so i bought one from him when he came in the store and it just kinda went right by me. i have to really like a guitar record to really like a guitar record. i mean lots of acoustic guitar albums are nice and fine and all that. i don't keep many of them. to be honest.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRn4T9iXI3U&feature=youtu.be

michael chapman telling stories and singing about fahey, required viewing

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

^great.
THREAD ALERT
http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs106/1101382621048/img/120.jpg
Don Bikoff released one lone, rare solo album, 'Celestial Explosion', on Keyboard Records in 1968, now reissued on LP/CD/DL by Tompkins Square. Watch the YouTube video of Bikoff playing on the Ted Mack Amateur Hour, taped May 12, 1968. You'll see the sheepish, long-haired, mustachioed musician spinning gold in a style (still?) so foreign to the mainstream listener. The befuddled host concludes after Don's performance, "That's unusual to say the least." A kid from Oyster Bay, LI, Bikoff got his start in Greenwich Village, annoying Dave Van Ronk and playing the folk/blues circuit where he met Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee, Jesse Fuller and Mississippi John Hurt. The comparisons to John Fahey's and Robbie Basho's work stated in the LP liner notes touched a nerve with Fahey himself at the time. Today, those comparisons are still inevitable, however they are for lazy ears. Bikoff has his own approach. Don is only 65 years old, and he's still playing strong. Don will appear with labelmate Daniel Bachman at Union Pool, Brooklyn NY on April 30th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvl38Ofebec

tylerw, Thursday, 31 January 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

Nice.

queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 31 January 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, and here's more:
https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/rindlers-metamorphosis-by-don

dow, Thursday, 31 January 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

oh man this is fantastic!

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 January 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Gotta say that I am enjoying that I can barely get through all the stuff making its way on the thread. So much good stuff.

grandavis, Thursday, 31 January 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

this bikoff thing sounds great. it is funny, i wonder about the mention of it touching a nerve with fahey. must've been sort of weird for him as his influence grew -- was he just like "why are all these dudes biting my style, yo?"

tylerw, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

digging bikoff's copious use of reverb.

tylerw, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i mean i hear the fahey influence but the reverb and the way he plays gives it a unique feel IMO

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

yeah he doesn't seem like a copycat. also, not sure if fahey would have called a song "Crystal Lakes Of Frangipani"

tylerw, Thursday, 31 January 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

William Tyler tour:

Shows
March 7 Savannah Stopover Savannah Ga
March 8 Will’s Pub (w Mount Moriah and Snowmine) Orlando Fl
March 9 Drunken Unicorn (w Mount Moriah and Dent May) Atlanta
March 10 Alabama Music Box (w Mount Moriah and Dent May)
Mobile AL
March 11 Spanish Moon (w Mount Moriah and Dent May) Baton Rouge LA
March 12 South by Southwest, official Merge showcase!
April 4 Phuzz Fest , Winston Salem NC
April 9 The Green Roon, Athens GA
April 10 Double Crown , Asheville NC
April 11 The Pinhook, Durham NC
April 12 9th and Beats, Washington DC
April 13 BSP , (w RIchard Buckner!) Kingston NY
April 14 Ortlieb’s Philadelphia PA
April 16 Mercury Lounge , Manhattan NY
April 17 Space Gallery, Portland ME
April 18 Middle East, (w/ Kinski!) Cambridge MA
April 19 O Patro Vys , Montreal QC
April 20 Silver Dollar, Toronto ONT
April 21 Happy Dog, Cleveland OH
April 22 Lager House, Detroit MI
April 23 The Pyramid Scheme, Grand Rapids MI
April 24 Trumpet Blossom Cafe , Iowa City IA
April 25 First Ave (!), Minneapolis MN
April 26 Hideout, (w/ Brokeback, Rebecca Gates) Chicago IL
April 27 Do317 Lounge, Indianapolis IN

global tetrahedron, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link

April 25 First Ave (!), Minneapolis MN

YAY

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link


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