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There's something really painful and cringeworthy about Murray's attempts to ingratiate himself though, I'll be glad when he's gone.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 09:53 (six years ago) link

Murray's terrible, but these smug morons need an irritant in amongst them more often

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 09:55 (six years ago) link

btw, is this Chapman chap an "expert" like Shearer and his ilk? Last time I looked, he was no more a professional footballer than Colin Murray.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:15 (six years ago) link

Oh, wait, I missed the bit where he wasn't allowed his own opinion. As you were.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:16 (six years ago) link

I don't buy the access thing. It's the BBC ffs, what business can afford to ignore it? I wish it would flex its muscles a bit - risible that it allowed Phelan to front for Ferguson for so long.

Plus it's only football: (i) as long as it has the matches, the rest is just filler; and (ii) a bit of journalistic bias can only help, this isn't Israel/Palestine.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:17 (six years ago) link

Chapman's got a much stronger background in sports broadcasting though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:18 (six years ago) link

Chapman knows his place is what i'm getting at.

Ismael i love your idealism but this is 2013, and sports journalism has always kinda been its own thing

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 10:25 (six years ago) link

"if you weren't there you know nothing and your opinion is worthless" attitude is rife

So otm and my least favourite thing about Gordon Strachan - he has this thing where he goes on about how only "football people" would understand some nuance of the game - like just because millions of us that follow the game but weren't good enough to play it for a living means we don't have a clue about football.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:00 (six years ago) link

Given that rule would exclude Jose Mourinho I think we can safely say it's bollocks.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:12 (six years ago) link

I mean I can understand why the Strachans of this world would take that attitude as well, given the thousands of idiot cunts they must encounter every year telling them how to do their jobs.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:14 (six years ago) link

he had a rant once about angry phone-in punters with "cans of Kestrel and DEVIL DUGS"

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:15 (six years ago) link

Classic: Stuart Hall

.... errrrrrrrr

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 11:55 (six years ago) link

Murray was always typical of the modern BBC whereby any presenter of anything is shunted into "having a go" at anything else, hopefully this puts them off the horrendous music sport crossover.

Chapman is really, really, boring.

Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:08 (six years ago) link

Chapman's OK. Didn't mind Murray either.

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:10 (six years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2266357/Match-Day-debate--needs-change-close-gap-Sky-Sports.html

Remember when Alan Hansen famously declared that 'you will win nothing with kids' back in August 1995 about Manchester United? Hansen may have been proven wrong but that is exactly the type of thought-provoking, headline grabbing conjecture it needs to regain.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:39 (six years ago) link

Laurie Whitwell

He would probably think it the worst idea initially, but if Paul Scholes could be convinced how valued his opinion would prove I would switch on each week. He knows the game inside out, has played in all manner of situations, and in my eyes is the most talented player Englishman of his generation.

So his insight and knowledge would prove fascinating. He would be able to disect match action with precision and perhaps provide dressing room tidbits. Once he retires for good, of course.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:45 (six years ago) link

best idea

r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:45 (six years ago) link

valuable insights on picking up the kids, breaking shins with impunity etc

you jelly like bitter lemon (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:46 (six years ago) link

if Sky replaced Redknapp with Carragher they'd be unstoppable

Number None, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:59 (six years ago) link

I think maybe Carragher would be guilty in the same way Redknapp is about being unwilling to directly criticise people he has to meet on the reg - though I agree Redknapp needs to be replaced with someone. Carragher also says "ay" and "like" too much for my liking but maybe I'm just anti-Scouse.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 13:04 (six years ago) link

How did Gary Neville get the Sky Main Man gig? I don't recall him being particularly brilliant settee-fodder, if he even did it that much, so how did Sky know that this was the guy who'd make everything alright - was he pitching to them relentlessly, winning merits at presenting school, or what?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 13:57 (six years ago) link

he only really did the settee stuff when he was a player. his shrewdness in seeing the opportunity for real insight and having the cojones to take it is as admirable as the quality of his punditry.

He would probably think it the worst idea initially, but if Paul Scholes could be convinced how valued his opinion would prove I would switch on each week. He knows the game inside out, has played in all manner of situations, and in my eyes is the most talented player Englishman of his generation.

So his insight and knowledge would prove fascinating. He would be able to disect match action with precision and perhaps provide dressing room tidbits. Once he retires for good, of course.

he oozes charisma too. scholes and giggs for motd2.

Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:05 (six years ago) link

sky thought hey this will be lolz and then it backfired

r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:11 (six years ago) link

carra's just going to be forthright bluster isnt he, he's got the insight of a dustbin lid

r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:15 (six years ago) link

As far as bbc or itv coverage goes, murray's been several rungs above average.

Love to see hansen on rte, he'd have his lazy arse handed to him pronto. Richie Sadler already twice the analyst.

standard disclaimer applies (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:17 (six years ago) link

GNev is excellent, and I wonder why BBC can't find one like him. Out of the gazillions of ex-pros and unemployed managers, there must be several who are knowledgeable and smart and interested, but somehow get overlooked in favour of wannabe personalities like Savage or Wright or boring bastards like Shearer and Owen.

btw, if yous all want Pat Nevin back, you can have him.

ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:19 (six years ago) link

The bbc don't want anyone like gnev, they'd have to get rid of everyone else and that might piss someone off

Dixon, keown and a couple others have been good on motd2 when i catch it

standard disclaimer applies (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:24 (six years ago) link

Dixon jumped to ITV.

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:27 (six years ago) link

Dixon's away to ITV now, I think, but I v rarely watch football on ITV. Agree he's streets ahead of Shearer. Hansen's just boring now, reminds me of the bawbag in my office who convinces stupid people he's clever by sounding authoritative even when spouting utter pish.

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ailsa, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:28 (six years ago) link

by sounding authoritative even when spouting utter pish

Jeez, yes - I once saw Hansen on telly talking about music for some reason, and this was exactly how he approached it. Greatest act ever? BILLY JOEL.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:50 (six years ago) link

what are the musical equivalents of power, pace and ability

moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 14:54 (six years ago) link

Ever see Hansen on the Frank Skinner show? Horrible viewing - he just sat there going "Say something funny! Come on we're all waiting!"

Stop Gerrying Me! (onimo), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 15:04 (six years ago) link

That was pretty funny actually.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 15:07 (six years ago) link

I don't approve as such, but I just found this takedown of Murray and I'd be lying if I said I was entirely unamused

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 2 February 2013 11:27 (six years ago) link

I know it's the Telegraph so I shouldn't have read the comments but...

I can hardly understand the accent which you can cut with a knife eg wheelves meaning Wolves, I presume etc. What Jonathan didn't pick up on was the lovely expression of "Gobbin Off" used by Murraysome weeks ago. How on Earth do people like Murray get these jobs? More P.C. junk, I suspect, it sure isn't talent.

Nice

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 February 2013 11:47 (six years ago) link

why the fuck did he go and see him? sweet jesus.

Ballboy to Afghanistan (LocalGarda), Saturday, 2 February 2013 12:04 (six years ago) link

'big quick strong and he can play'

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:48 (six years ago) link

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every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 9 February 2013 18:43 (six years ago) link

Michael Owen

Number None, Sunday, 17 February 2013 23:47 (six years ago) link

Jaben confusin me tbh

birmingham six, guildford four, mumford & sons (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 February 2013 23:56 (six years ago) link

I'm enjoying this low-key, non-studio coverage actually

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 February 2013 08:35 (six years ago) link

I really liked this, it's nice to see a programme that doesn't look or sound like any other footy show.

I was disposing of recorded motds at the weekend, and realised I'm now forwarding through them at such a pace that it's barely worth it. I'm basically now winding through the punditry AND the games, slowing briefly for the goals that earned a 'woo, strike' on here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 February 2013 22:12 (six years ago) link

same as that tbh, if i miss rte i'll skip thru bbc

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Monday, 18 February 2013 22:58 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

i notice with some regret that they've partly quelled the jobsworth who insisted on listing brazilians by their full name - Kenedy has now been retrospectively applied to all historical Nunes do Nascimento appearances

r|t|c, Monday, 18 January 2016 09:26 (three years ago) link

05 Marques Loureiro
08 Frello Filho

still got these two running the napoli midfield though so that's alright

r|t|c, Monday, 18 January 2016 09:27 (three years ago) link

sad they're no longer referring to CRon as 'dos Santos Aveiro'

one month passes...

Benfica

1 Santana de Moraes
50 Cabral Semedo
7 Samaris
14 Nilsson-Lindelof
19 Pereira Dos Santos
21 Afonso Fernandes
5 Fejsa
85 Luz Sanches
10 Gaitán
11 Mitroglou
17 Gonçalves Oliveira

Substitutes
9 Jimenez Rodriguez
13 Pedro Lopes
18 Salvio
20 Ganchinho Guedes
28 Silvio
30 Souza Conceição
66 Alves Dias

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 23:34 (three years ago) link

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35835197

this quiz is too difficult :c

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 March 2016 17:51 (three years ago) link

2 simulataneous Prem matches on Five Live, one of them with a real impact on the title chase, one of them a tussle for 5th place, guess which one gets broadcast on the main channel

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 March 2016 17:31 (three years ago) link

^ preceded by 2 simultaneous prem matches on five live, one a local derby with a real impact on the relegation chase, one of them a tussle for 7th place, guess which one gets broadcast on the main channel

r|t|c, Monday, 21 March 2016 08:53 (three years ago) link


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