Ok, reddit
― fuck wit' lysandre day (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 20 January 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
thats not a reverse racism argument at all, thats what you mean
im talking about a white person deciding that a particular black person, a human being, embodies a stereotype
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 20 January 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
*if thats what you mean
I think the only person here who has made such an argument is Dan.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 January 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
I think if you're honest about what art does it shouldn't be surprising that the street-level stuff is better -- i.e. art tries to make up the difference between our infinite, expansive feelings and finite, cramped realities. And ghetto/street life is pretty cramped and finite -- so the music has a bigger infinity to traverse so to speak, more to make up for, more emotional work to do in order to be redemptive.
― onlydarkness.com, Monday, 21 January 2013 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
Or you can think about it economically, in terms of skill development -- I remember Dave Van Ronk recounting a conversation where somebody was musing: why are so many famous blues guitarists blind black men from the South? I mean isn't that uncanny? perhaps suspect? indicative of an audience fetish?
Dave's rejoinder: if you were a blind black man from the South prior to WWII how else would you make a living?
Within a demographic, an economic decision will be made more often if there's a smaller opportunity cost. And, within a demographic, if there are a disproportionate number of say rappers, there will also be a disproportionate number of GOOD rappers!
― onlydarkness.com, Monday, 21 January 2013 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
provocative post: poor people make better music. They have to, because their lives are worse.
― onlydarkness.com, Monday, 21 January 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
for 'poor' above feel free to sub in crazy, alienated, lonely, messianic, high, prone to fits -- anything really as long as you don't wanna feel complicit
― onlydarkness.com, Monday, 21 January 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
very provocative
― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
btw "projecting your preconceptions of x onto this stuff and pronouncing it good because it serves them back to you" is how *any* idea about *anything* is formed!
Good to remember in terms of human psychology sure but imo not a particularly effective approach to examining one's conscience re: enjoyment of street rap ---
― onlydarkness.com, Monday, 21 January 2013 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't sneak NWA & 2 Live Crew into my room by shoving them down the front of my pants to sit here and listen to this shit
― fieri inna babylon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 January 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.vice.com/read/stories-you-wont-hear-while-shopping-for-music-online-day-one
There wasn’t a ton of music to organize, but for some reason all of the fuckheads loved pulling out 2 Live Crew’s As Nasty As They Wanna Be CDs from the section to rub on their JNCO jeans covered genitals and just lay the discs back on the top of the section like they’re returning a fucking cafeteria tray.
― fuck wit' lysandre day (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 January 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
GD how many hundreds of posts are you going to spend on this board whining about the two times a decade ago that you got made fun of by a guy who stopped posting here 3 years ago? get the fuck over it.
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 07:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/2e149d09a388e6e132d3caf8aa2bfe1a/tumblr_inline_mf7xx3GEDI1ry4qim.gif
― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 January 2013 07:09 (eleven years ago) link
Can we have a button for posting that gif
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
i mean Al was dismissing me the other day for even indicating i was softening on the joey badass thing
this is not what happened at all btw, i just called bullshit on your comparison between joey badass's nostalgic rap and frankie beverly's r&b that people became nostalgic for decades later
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, you people are the worst.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 21 January 2013 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
Al, I could see how you would just love for that to be the case for me but there's nothing for me to "get over" other than the fact that his strain of douchery is still alive here, as so excellently demonstrated by you
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2013 08:08 (eleven years ago) link
one of the few hiphop posters here apparently views him as GOAT, maybe that has more to do w/me not being able to "get over hit" than whatever killer zing he unleashed my way in '04
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2013 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
I miss the golden age of ethan and strongo hardmanning.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link
Hardman cheerleaders who never do hardmanning themselves are the lamest, though
― lex pretend, Monday, 21 January 2013 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
Huh is that directed at me then
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
Ha no it was meant generally but it does actually apply there, lol
No this dates back to the Kogan days, the worst people weren't the attn-seeking cunts but the enablers who'd only post snide "lol"s and act like they weren't part of the problem
― lex pretend, Monday, 21 January 2013 11:45 (eleven years ago) link
GD, work your ethan issues out elsewhere. he's on facebook, write him a long letter and let it all out. bringing him up here on a monthly basis, over and over and over, is pointless.
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, I never supported the bullshit on the Hillary duff thread. But there's hardmanning andhardmanning.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
O_O
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/21/chief-keef-baby-mama-lawsuit-grade-school-young-girl/
― fuck wit' lysandre day (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 January 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
rap game tracy jordan
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
bringing him up here on a monthly basis, over and over and over, is pointless.
I guess you're right because people here still act like his disciples no matter what
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
ethan basically runs ilx like in goodfellas when they go to prison, he's on facebook cutting up garlic with a razor blade and frying up veal chops while sending messages to deej and j0rdan on the outside
― fieri inna babylon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
ehh this facebook...its not so bad
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
and maybe i'm wrong that that strain of clowning assholeness that still permeates hiphop discussion here stems from him. maybe it's endemic to internet hiphop discussion. after all, people are just manifesting their love for a culture rooted in putdowns. nothing to do with white guys discussing a living black artform w/other white guys via a faceless communication mode.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
you are completely wrong about everything
― Influential Acid Jazz Pioneer (crüt), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
cool now i know
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
how about you eat my ass you clueless cumbubble
― vagina the escape G.O.A.T. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Lol @ GDs dn
― flag posts in the dust (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 21 January 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
so much anger. just like the culture you love awww.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 21 January 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
ethan was cocaine and whiney is crack, in terms of the meanspiritedness of rap threads, imo
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
read that as 'crank' which seemed more accurate either way i think
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Monday, 21 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
does that make deej speed?
― lex pretend, Monday, 21 January 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
deej is dope
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
take that however you wanna take it
Who wants to be molly?
― longneck, Monday, 21 January 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
as if anyone on the rap internet merits that
― lex pretend, Monday, 21 January 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
lil' b's twitter
― fieri inna babylon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 January 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rewindreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/goodfellas-banner.jpg
j0rdan, some dude, ethan, deej? i dunno, working on it
― fieri inna babylon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 January 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
joe pesci is whiney or delete the conceit
― flag posts in the dust (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 21 January 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/1418823080_f0ed8774dc.jpg
One dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way
― vagina the escape G.O.A.T. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 21 January 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
if we even take gd seriously here id like to point out that he's conflating hardmanning and taste
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 21 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, January 21, 2013 1:12 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes b/c it was RETRO -- i just was referring to what i expected their best case scenario path wd be in the industry
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 21 January 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
anyway if ethan was really the all-consuming guiding light of this board's taste i think there'd be a lot more Copywrite and Ill Bill content than is currently the rage in the rolling off a molly thread
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 21 January 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link