Finally Rich - Chief Keef

It's a great idea if you want people to think you have the social sensitivity of the rich daughter from Native Son

sorry that was a little incoherent, what I mean to say is "if you are enjoying this dude, you should take a long, hard look in the mirror and be fucking embarrassed"

some dude otm it's like if the angle most people are going for is "oh this kid's nihilism is 4 real and he is a living embodiment of a terrible, violent social environment" it's like...your response is to turn the violence into a gimmick-for-lulz? right

Right.

I think there was some quote from the literary clusterfucks thread about everybody being horrible

i wasn't really lol'ing at the idea that pitchfork was terrible in all this, it was more just the actual phrase "i hope pitchfork pays for this" was so serious it was just funny to me

mostly i feel bad for a sound guy. talk about tough locations to record an interview. xpost.

"if you are enjoying this dude, you should take a long, hard look in the mirror and be fucking embarrassed"

why, do his personal problems vitiate the musicality of his work?

his personal problems are beside the point; the music he's putting out is stupid garbage

well, that's a legit disagreement. i find some of it pretty hypnotic and compelling.

some people think cucumbers taste better pickled

What about it is hypnotic and compelling? What is he saying/doing that you find fascinating? All I here is an ignoramus with the vocabulary of a muffin saying ignorant shit that hundreds of other emcees have expressed much better, only with hook of being a young dude actually on probation rather than a theatrical storyteller

we've explained about a hundred times itt

i mean, i get it, DJP is not a fan of new street rap. i'm not trying to convince you that you need to hear him. it's obv divisive music for a reason. but you are intentionally provoking ppl who are finding something musically compelling in it

oh horrors

you're implying that we wouldn't like him as much if he didn't come with the violent backstory. that may be true of some--certainly it's made him a bit more of a media phenom--but I'd like to think it doesn't matter to me. i actually had no idea he was such a fuckup until well after i heard some of his tracks. i admit they took some getting used to, as has a lot of other chi trill stuff like sasha go hard, king louie, etc. if anything i guess i have them some extra time b/c they are from my home town (even though, practically, our life experiences were so different as to put into question whether we were actually raised in the same town in any meaningful sense).

anyway, keef's not a lyricist, obviously. i mean he's not a Lyricist-capital-"A." he's never going to wear that crown. there's not much wordplay in the sense of puns, metaphors, complex internal rhymes, etc.

but i'm not sure a rapper (or any artist) needs to "say" or "express" something _new_ -- if the sounds coming out of their mouth sound good with the production, it doesn't necessarily need to matter.

and his flow is very deliberate, in the sense of being slow with not a ton of rhythmic variation (w/in a song anyway). but there's something subtle and seductive about his minimalist flow. it doesn't signify "old school" or "childlike" as it might with other folks. to me it seems to signify, or just evoke, an occult-like incantation.

but: taste is taste, of course.

xxxpost

Didn't know anything about him when i heard 'don't like' which turned out to be one of the best 5 tracks i heard in 2012. Hate looking at myself in the mirror for a host of reasons, liking chief keef ain't one of them.

funny, when i look in the mirror i see chief keef.

Keef doesn't exist in a vacuum: he's influenced by (and influencing) a bunch of other rap artists that ppl are into, myself included. Fair enough you don't like it but stop acting like it's outrageous people think his music is good.

I first listened to Chief Keef following a string of links starting with an article about Amor Lilman's Pull Ya Pants Up

fwiw I played I Don't Like five times and Pull Ya Pants Up only once

somehow I think your fragile egos will survive my opinion that this dude sucks and that ppl supporting him have terrible taste in music

well that's just the last straw *gets into spaceship and blasts off never to be seen again*

that's that ship i don't like.

somehow I think your fragile egos will survive my opinion that this dude sucks and that ppl supporting him have terrible taste in music

― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:26 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my #1 album is your least favorite rap artist of 2012 & my #2 is your most favorite rap artist of 2012. lol

I can understand how somebody could like his music but you're seriously going with that as the best of 2012?

I like all the songs on it, he's one of the most interesting new talents of the year, i listened to it a lot

imo there's not really a bad song on it. it is a bit randomly constructed but its some of the most exciting rap out rn IMO

he just said that hopsin "got that real music" on twitter

keef supporters were all wrong, turn around while you still can

"somehow I think your fragile egos will survive my opinion that this dude sucks and that ppl supporting him have terrible taste in music

― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:26 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

damn this is some visceral hate

DJP is from boston fyi

that is the most hurtful thing anyone has said on this thread ;_;

haha i'm just kidding man! i know you are from HSTNGS

LOL

its some of the most exciting rap out rn IMO

to each his own but the fact that this might be true makes me sad

i guess you're not on the "rap is in a really good place right now" bandwagon?

who is hopsin, is that flopson's rap name

There's nothing about this I find interesting in the slightest, but I don't like state-of-the-genre statements like that.

hopsin is behind this slut shaming eminem biting action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRVOOwFNp5U
he also is a favorite rapper of redditors

u just got called boston

@DNAinfoCHI: BREAKING: #ChiefKeef gets 60 days in jail. The 17-year-old rapper cried in court and begged for forgiveness

semi grim lols that this has popped up in a bunch of my media outlets EXCEPT for Pitchfork

@al_25_: Chief Keef gunna have to make songs like Drake now that he cried in court

dnainfo trynna ether is career lol

what is "dnainfo"?

local news blog. they have one in NYC too

jesus christ crying is a perfectly acceptable reaction to hearing that news

people gotta stop shaming dudes for crying that shit's lame

Dude would shame himself for crying if he weren't the one crying, though.

snitchfork

Dude would shame himself for crying if he weren't the one crying, though.

I think I saw an afterschool special about this once