the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

xp Arrogance and ignorance, yes, perfectly out.

i feel like we basically have a whole political party devoted to harvesting this energy today though, i mean legislation does get written based on OMG Shariah Law!!! etc. They have just abandoned the Satan theme bc it is too quaint now.

PUT

God damn Apple autocorrecting what I type to try and frustrate and silence me well IT WILL NOT WORK I tell you. #appletruth

i feel like we basically have a whole political party devoted to harvesting this energy today though, i mean legislation does get written based on OMG Shariah Law!!! etc. They have just abandoned the Satan theme bc it is too quaint now.
Scariest people next door imo

That's just me, though. I can see how other people wouldn't be as afraid of them.

i guess that what makes me apoplectically angry is the thought of basically sane if radically cynical ppl deliberately preying on this in order to get viewers/clicks/clout. I know G Beck is no longer on FOX but his little tutorials on there were such unbelievably blatant schizotypic-baiting it made me want to never stop vomiting. And he is IMO a sane person, doing untold damage to ppl's personal lives because he can, and it's easy, and it's I guess fun.

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the ppl next door are fucking terrifying!

Man that salon thing has me in the worst mood, sorry guys

Yes, I agree. I'm sorry for bringing it up. This is what I do. I make everyone feel worse! Working on that.

Does anyone want to join my nuclear disarmament club it's really fun?!

This is what I do. I make everyone feel worse!

That is not true.

No I know, it's just one of several things I do.
Ask my parents!

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hahaha awww, ILU, LL

:)
anything to scrub my brain and yours from thinking about how doomed we all are

LL don't feel guilty, I had already seen it b/c DJP linked it from facebook. EVIL EVIL DJP who makes everyone feel bad

I make everyone feel worse!

Don't be a total loon. DJP, otoh....

plus the major active ingredient FEAR

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A couple of famous UK cases here which seem in retrospect to be part of the same general climate of SRA-related hysteria prevalent at the time.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/jan/12/childrensservices.uknews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Ronaldsay_child_abuse_scandal

I saw a documentary on the Orkney case a few years ago. The most shocking thing was the complete refusal of the social workers concerned to accept they could ever have been wrong, even in the face of damning evidence to the contrary.

The objects seized during the raids were later returned; they included a videotape of the TV show Blackadder, a detective novel by Ngaio Marsh, and a model aeroplane made by one of the children from two pieces of wood, which was identified by social workers as a "wooden cross". The minister was asked to sign for the return of "three masks, two hoods, one black cloak", but refused to sign until the inventory was altered to "three nativity masks, two academic hoods, one priest's robe".

Thanks, I never heard of those. The same infernal procession, again and again, so fucking sad. Gonna see if I can find that BBC docu mentioned in the wiki link.

Participants itt will be excited for this new release (I know I am):

http://www.amazon.com/Going-Clear-Scientology-Hollywood-Prison/dp/0307700666

LL have you seen the documentary Witch Hunt, about Kern County? I was just reading about it and wondered if you'd seen it

that doc is REALLY good - super sad and awful, though

I just started watching

I saw that. It was on NF streaming, at least as of last year sometime. Very depressing.

Just came across these on Amazon; how are they?

Folk Devils and Moral Panics (Routledge Classics) by Stanley Cohen
Moral Panics: The Social Construction of Deviance by Erich Goode

Re: Kern Cty - I have not! If it is still on netflix, I most definitely will. (But if JL finds it "very" depressing, it must be pretty bad.)

Haven't read either of those books either. Sorry! I have read Charles McKay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds though -- if either of these books contain more contemporary examples, I'd add them to the reading queue.

Yeah you need to see Witch Hunt

I'm almost through it - it's just v sad hearing the families talk about their kids being taken from them. hearing their own firsthand accounts, patents & kids is really fascinating & sad & heartbreaking that it ever happened

I dunno that I found it any more depressing than any of the other reading that I've done, but it's more that it puts faces and lives to those stories, which I think is kind of good, overall.

In other news (yes I'm bored and trawling youtube) -- I found an old BBC (? I think? It seems like a BBC joint) doc called In Satan's Name about satanists and ritual abuse and mpd - it's pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4hy6BIWHpo

I also just discovered that the Ritual Abuse Taskforce still exists. STILL EXISTS

maybe they've changed their focus from satan

oh but there's this (sorry I'll stop)

h t t p://ritualabuse.u s/ritualabuse/articles/mcmartin-preschool-case-what-really-happened-and-the-coverup/

^^^ that's worth a read, lemme tell ya

xxpost that is a recurring theme-- the people who made a creed out of this shit are largely still sticking to their story today.

yeah, that's for sure -- it was so deeply a part of their reason for existing professionally and they banked everything on it, so goddammit, they're sticking to it

it's just so unconscionable to me, I don't know how they lie straight in bed at night

OTM. And yet, to recant something on that level is basically like... I dunno, I'd have to go study zen for the rest of my life. Ego defense is an amazing powerful thing

OTM

Root cause of many societal ills.

And all arguments on the internet.

the saddest thing in that Witch Hunt doc was a couple of the male adult children who recanted, talking about how they couldn't bring themselves to bathe their own infant children because they were ashamed

ashamed

like that whole system fucked them up for life for making them admit to these awful things. the kinds of things that IRL fuck actual victims up. the fact that they manufactured these cases and ruined the lives of perfectly healthy children and adults is just RAAGGGGH

It's time for a breather VG -- I know the signs! Go read something funny!

Protect ya neck (from Satan)

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sound advice, LL

I've had to take a break from reading about stuff like this more times than I can count! After I read Jeremy Scahill's Blackwater book I seriously had to decompress. Finally maybe I am ready to read Going Clear, but with caution and hopefully this time not by myself. It's a lot easier to stomach this stuff when I have someone to talk about it with; otherwise, I'm basically just walking around with tons of horrific thoughts 24/7 and that's not a ton of fun.

I get the same way with my true-crime obsessiveness, after a while I start noting windowless vans and looking at missing persons notices online and seeing possible grave sites on my nature walks, it's a bad scene. I should have recognized the signs!

But I def want to read more when I've decompressed a little

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but I still love you to death for creating this thread

<3 to my bad news buddies

hey, creating this thread helped me feel like there were fewer wasps in my head
it's my pleasure!