Finally Rich - Chief Keef

what has he even done this/last year?

― flopson, Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Luger_discography#2012

He has been pretty busy it seems. Not too many huge hits but quite a few bangers in there.

ya, not bad. crazy that he only produced one juicy j song this year (if that`s true)

deej can you ysi me chi bangin comps if u got any?

hit me on teh google chat

i think i added u ages ago but i never see u on? sent u a msg i think

first initial last name at gee mail dot com

ya thats the 1, weird

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/01/chief-keef-taken-into-custody-by-chicago-police

http://cdnl.complex.com/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2013/01/content/keef.jpg

simonandfatfunkel ...

first time pitchfork has actually sent someone to jail?

I was thinking: Vice almost did McAffee in, now Pitchfork does Keef in...

omg @ pitchfork

this was clearly a really stupid decision by pitchfork but it also shows how reckless the super hands off approach that keef's people have with him is

avoiding Pepsi-ready timidity comes at a cost, I suppose

how do you think a 'hands on' approach would work, exactly

i mean i know it's way more fun to just be like, "oh the adults around him are just bad people" but that really doesn't quite capture it

on a purely mercenary level, they're inept

i don't think they're bad people, but i think based on your piece that the people around him can do a better job of helping him not sabotage his career. throwing your hands up and going "eh, he's gonna do the opposite of whatever we say!" isn't a good way to handle things imo

who said they're throwing up their hands? they are inept but who exactly COULD step in & manage him? who would he let 'manage' him in the traditional sense?

i feel like this is one of those situations where you think you know what you would do, but it's kind of rich to be sitting back armchair-managing the whole situation w/out observing first hand

and this isn't in any way a defense of his mgr's, i basically think 'trust none' is probably closer to the way a lot of people in the situation are operating

saying that the people around him could be doing better is not armchair managing

what Pitchfork did was probably far further out of the realm of what music press usually does or should do than anything his management has done

i mean we're asking someone to run interference on someone else's unprecedented monumentally bad idea

man you guys really don't respect chief keef's intelligence do you

it takes a village to keep a guy from being filmed at a shooting range while on probation

saying that the people around him could be doing better is not armchair managing

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:16 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i think it kind of is when you have this situation.

I feel like we can at least settle the question of "does Chief Keef do amazingly stupid shit" in light of all this

he makes great music & managed to get out of extraordinarily horrible conditions using it, so i give him some credit

at least, get partway out

gonna say

I hope Pitchfork pays for this.

it takes a village to keep a guy from being filmed at a shooting range while on probation

― da croupier, Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:21 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is funny because somehow a village wasn't enough to keep this from happening, like how many people did this decision go through?

"Hey, how about we take Chief Keef to the shooting range? That would be fun, right?

Elliot Wilson "supports" Keef - and goes after Ciara for sounding like Keef.
I'm sure Dawn has some medieval battle gear she can lend Lex for the upcoming, epic battle.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTmw37bLZKk

I hope Pitchfork pays for this.

― longneck, Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:23 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

on the one hand, he's 17, it's really kinda that simple, the threat of incarceration seldom seems real enough to a teenager to stop him from doing fun shit especially if it's right there in front of his face and free

OTOH massive, endless lol at anybody mad at Pitchfork about this. I did 3 years supervised probation. Know what I didn't do during those three years? Go to a firing range at all. Know why? The judge told me not to do anything that would lead to me landing in his courtroom again. I was also a kid at the time. If you give a shit about not going to jail and the threat of getting sent there has been put in front of you, you just have to toughen up a little when the good times present themselves, or you can pay the damn piper later

the thing is though even if there had never been any legal ramifications, "interview at a gun range" would never have been anything but an awful idea

It's a great idea if you want people to think you have the social sensitivity of the rich daughter from Native Son

sorry that was a little incoherent, what I mean to say is "if you are enjoying this dude, you should take a long, hard look in the mirror and be fucking embarrassed"

some dude otm it's like if the angle most people are going for is "oh this kid's nihilism is 4 real and he is a living embodiment of a terrible, violent social environment" it's like...your response is to turn the violence into a gimmick-for-lulz? right

Right.

I think there was some quote from the literary clusterfucks thread about everybody being horrible

i wasn't really lol'ing at the idea that pitchfork was terrible in all this, it was more just the actual phrase "i hope pitchfork pays for this" was so serious it was just funny to me

mostly i feel bad for a sound guy. talk about tough locations to record an interview. xpost.

"if you are enjoying this dude, you should take a long, hard look in the mirror and be fucking embarrassed"

why, do his personal problems vitiate the musicality of his work?

his personal problems are beside the point; the music he's putting out is stupid garbage

well, that's a legit disagreement. i find some of it pretty hypnotic and compelling.

some people think cucumbers taste better pickled

What about it is hypnotic and compelling? What is he saying/doing that you find fascinating? All I here is an ignoramus with the vocabulary of a muffin saying ignorant shit that hundreds of other emcees have expressed much better, only with hook of being a young dude actually on probation rather than a theatrical storyteller

we've explained about a hundred times itt