She either comes off as very confused about the whole thing or I just fundamentally do not agree with her entire worldview.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:00 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yah i guess i feel like i got some insight into her worldview; enough to suspect that i strongly disagree with it
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
the anticipated audience was not you, who have read this clusterfuck and her blog posts etc
max was . . . restrained, which is no doubt for the best
― mookieproof, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us
― buzza, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
expecting your own worldview to appear coherent and philosophically sound to others is a flawed perspective, expecting that of others, when they notably have a hard time pruning their public image, is too much
The more I live the more I think that people who pursue their lives in the public sphere successfully are more crafters of images than purveyors of personal truth
― mh, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
― mh, Friday, January 11, 2013 11:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
don't mean to be harsh but uh no shit?
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
well sure, but the people who are all "omg this is a horrible person" are judging on the fact this writer throws everything out there, not on the fact that she is actually pretty average and just not a good crafter of her image, for someone in her public position
― mh, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
see I was mentioning that to outline the inverse case, cad
― mookieproof, Friday, January 11, 2013 11:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah I would agree with this
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah mh i get it, certainly for valdes it does not seem like crafting a particular image is her prime motivation here, but her defense of her style of memoir is just kind of bizarre to those of us who, having now heard the whole story, are saying "uh there's really no value in you leaving things hanging in the middle"
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
it seems like she's a horrible human being who had something horrible happen to her and is now stuck in a terrible no-win position
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:23 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think this is pretty perfectly put
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
NB have not read the rest of the thread yet so if there are new developments i am unaware of them
you should read it
― iatee, Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
;)
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
Not even sure I'd call it a defense as much as a series of kneejerk reactions and denials
― mh, Saturday, 12 January 2013 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
richard dunne vs russia
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 10:24 (eleven years ago) link
still getting caught up on the thread; this was good:
feel like ambition should be in the dsm― lag∞n, Friday, January 11, 2013 4:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Friday, January 11, 2013 4:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― fiscal cliff racer (bernard snowy), Saturday, 12 January 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
hasn't she been through enough?― Mordy, Friday, January 11, 2013 5:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkshe needs a strong message board to show her the way― lag∞n, Friday, January 11, 2013 5:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mordy, Friday, January 11, 2013 5:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
she needs a strong message board to show her the way
― lag∞n, Friday, January 11, 2013 5:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― fiscal cliff racer (bernard snowy), Saturday, 12 January 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.mamiverse.com/an-open-letter-to-demi-moore-4051/
― estela, Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd70/artnframing123/Framed%20Art/100_4734.jpg
― sarahell, Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― ♨ (am0n), Saturday, 12 January 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
is it to soon to make a white knighting/race war connection btw
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
This is not meant to be a diagnosis of Demi Moore's health issues, as only a licensed professional can make such a diagnosis.
― mookieproof, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
"I'm Brian Fellow"
― buzza, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://missalisasplace.com/2013/01/12/lets-talk-about-this/
― estela, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
Max Read (what a great freakin' pen name, dude)
― mookieproof, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
In the interest of being completely transparent, I’ve decided to host a Livestream chat on my website for anyone to join tomorrow. I’ll be live, on video, and you guys can ask me anything you want to. I want you to be able to see my eyes when I answer you, so that you can judge for yourself whether I’m telling the truth or crazy. I encourage you to join me, because I am genuinely interested in what you have to say, and hope that you will extend the same respect to me. Come to this link tomorrow, Sunday, January 13, at 6 p.m. MST (8 p.m. EST) and let’s talk about this, like civilized, intelligent people. Or at least not like idiots. Deal?
― Mordy, Sunday, 13 January 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
Livestream Chat Clusterfucks 2013
― Theodora Celery, Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
"Who do you think you are? What.... what gives you the right?"
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
mookieproof otm
― goole, Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
Posted by Valdes on her "Diary" blog, as linked by estela a few posts above:
I did not ask him to stop and he did not force himself upon me. Therefore, it wasn’t rape. The experience was sad, certainly, and he did remind me during it that he was “in charge” and I had to stop talking back, etc. Yes, this is ugly, and yes it was a turning point for me in the relationship. But it wasn’t “rape”. Not to me. While the cowboy could, at times, be a brutal man, emotionally, verbally and psychologically, and while he did threaten me with physical harm more than once (but never hit me) he was NOT a rapist, to my knowledge. I think that repeatedly referring to him in this way is irresponsible, libelous and, frankly, might get me killed.
no comment
― Aimless, Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
good lord
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sorry but I still am at a loss with this "the cowboy" crap. I know it's a vocation and lifestyle but, damn. If he was a mechanic would this have had the same romantic angle to it?
― mh, Sunday, 13 January 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
its p. gross yes
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
from her twitter:
I do love this piece. ow.ly/gLbHO
this piece she loves also says she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
― estela, Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
that link didn't work
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151236762588940&set=a.10150683281598940.395918.574023939&type=1&theater
― estela, Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
that letter to demi was weird
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
it seemed like a confessional masquerading as a case of projection
― mh, Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link
creepy-feelingover-identification or something idk
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
is january 2013 just the month for super-regressive memoirs or something? this bullshit 'i figured out the algorithm to getting a husband on online personal sites, and it involves lying about everything' book has been driving me fucking crazy all day
― maura, Sunday, 13 January 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
YOU'RE TOO TALL EVEN IF YOU'RE 5'4" AND YOU NEED TO PLAY DOWN YOUR SUCCESSES, AND DON'T BE FUNNY, IT CONFUSES PEOPLE
god set the world on fire
― maura, Sunday, 13 January 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
smdh
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 January 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
this bullshit 'i figured out the algorithm to getting a husband on online personal sites, and it involves lying about everything' book
Wait what, that sounds horrific.
― Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 14 January 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323374504578217973101313736.html
?
― how's life, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
A surprising number of men high-fived me, for reasons that remain unclear.
geez, what jerks!
― NINO CARTER, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
Holy flerking shnit.
― Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Monday, 14 January 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
"insufferable uptight maths lady wonders why her humorless profile gets not decent dates".
oh ffs
let's all hold hands & bite down on the cyanide capsule
raaagh @ this bullshit: • Women with curly hair are at a distinct disadvantage online. I have no idea whether men prefer blondes, but I can say definitively that most men prefer women with healthy, long, straight hair. If you have curls and feel comfortable (and look good) straightening your hair, give that a try.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 January 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
she's the Abed of online dating websites
― NINO CARTER, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
(xpost)
bleach yr eyes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 January 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link