Literary Clusterfucks 2013

I am amazed by the passive-aggressive barbs subtly strewn that invite sarcastic rejoinders and then hostilities. Reminds me of an abusive ex, tbh

respect to your ms, darragh

someone already made that joke upthread fwiw prob like five times

i cant unpick if thats all for me or whether its for thread in general mh

xp i figured la didn't sound enough alike for the pun and that masculinising her was better than insinuating a third party

― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:09 (4 minutes ago)

lol

Thread, but the respect is always for your lady. She puts up with the best of us, may as well be the worst

I didn't feel like I learned very much new in the last Gawker piece other than that I was right that the theory about the evil publisher silencing the abuse victim to sell books was a little overblown.

She either comes off as very confused about the whole thing or I just fundamentally do not agree with her entire worldview.

stop it hurting, just walk away, just walk away

(aimless gently slides his hand under hurting 2's elbow and guides him slowly but firmly to the exit. as hurting 2 slides through the door, aimless throws one bittersweet glance over his shoulder and then follows him into the darkness).

She either comes off as very confused about the whole thing or I just fundamentally do not agree with her entire worldview.

― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:00 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah i guess i feel like i got some insight into her worldview; enough to suspect that i strongly disagree with it

the anticipated audience was not you, who have read this clusterfuck and her blog posts etc

max was . . . restrained, which is no doubt for the best

"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us"A father who, when he was drunk, beat our mother in front of us

expecting your own worldview to appear coherent and philosophically sound to others is a flawed perspective, expecting that of others, when they notably have a hard time pruning their public image, is too much

The more I live the more I think that people who pursue their lives in the public sphere successfully are more crafters of images than purveyors of personal truth

The more I live the more I think that people who pursue their lives in the public sphere successfully are more crafters of images than purveyors of personal truth

― mh, Friday, January 11, 2013 11:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't mean to be harsh but uh no shit?

well sure, but the people who are all "omg this is a horrible person" are judging on the fact this writer throws everything out there, not on the fact that she is actually pretty average and just not a good crafter of her image, for someone in her public position

see I was mentioning that to outline the inverse case, cad

max was . . . restrained, which is no doubt for the best

― mookieproof, Friday, January 11, 2013 11:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I would agree with this

yeah mh i get it, certainly for valdes it does not seem like crafting a particular image is her prime motivation here, but her defense of her style of memoir is just kind of bizarre to those of us who, having now heard the whole story, are saying "uh there's really no value in you leaving things hanging in the middle"

it seems like she's a horrible human being who had something horrible happen to her and is now stuck in a terrible no-win position

― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:23 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this is pretty perfectly put

NB have not read the rest of the thread yet so if there are new developments i am unaware of them

you should read it

;)

Not even sure I'd call it a defense as much as a series of kneejerk reactions and denials

richard dunne vs russia

still getting caught up on the thread; this was good:

feel like ambition should be in the dsm

― lag∞n, Friday, January 11, 2013 4:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hasn't she been through enough?

― Mordy, Friday, January 11, 2013 5:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she needs a strong message board to show her the way

― lag∞n, Friday, January 11, 2013 5:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.mamiverse.com/an-open-letter-to-demi-moore-4051/

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd70/artnframing123/Framed%20Art/100_4734.jpg

haha

is it to soon to make a white knighting/race war connection btw

This is not meant to be a diagnosis of Demi Moore's health issues, as only a licensed professional can make such a diagnosis.

"I'm Brian Fellow"

http://missalisasplace.com/2013/01/12/lets-talk-about-this/

Max Read (what a great freakin' pen name, dude)

In the interest of being completely transparent, I’ve decided to host a Livestream chat on my website for anyone to join tomorrow. I’ll be live, on video, and you guys can ask me anything you want to. I want you to be able to see my eyes when I answer you, so that you can judge for yourself whether I’m telling the truth or crazy. I encourage you to join me, because I am genuinely interested in what you have to say, and hope that you will extend the same respect to me. Come to this link tomorrow, Sunday, January 13, at 6 p.m. MST (8 p.m. EST) and let’s talk about this, like civilized, intelligent people. Or at least not like idiots. Deal?

Livestream Chat Clusterfucks 2013

"Who do you think you are? What.... what gives you the right?"

mookieproof otm

Posted by Valdes on her "Diary" blog, as linked by estela a few posts above:

I did not ask him to stop and he did not force himself upon me. Therefore, it wasn’t rape. The experience was sad, certainly, and he did remind me during it that he was “in charge” and I had to stop talking back, etc. Yes, this is ugly, and yes it was a turning point for me in the relationship. But it wasn’t “rape”. Not to me. While the cowboy could, at times, be a brutal man, emotionally, verbally and psychologically, and while he did threaten me with physical harm more than once (but never hit me) he was NOT a rapist, to my knowledge. I think that repeatedly referring to him in this way is irresponsible, libelous and, frankly, might get me killed.

no comment

good lord

I'm sorry but I still am at a loss with this "the cowboy" crap. I know it's a vocation and lifestyle but, damn. If he was a mechanic would this have had the same romantic angle to it?

its p. gross yes

from her twitter:

I do love this piece. ow.ly/gLbHO

this piece she loves also says she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.

that link didn't work

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151236762588940&set=a.10150683281598940.395918.574023939&type=1&theater

that letter to demi was weird

it seemed like a confessional masquerading as a case of projection

creepy-feeling
over-identification or something idk

is january 2013 just the month for super-regressive memoirs or something? this bullshit 'i figured out the algorithm to getting a husband on online personal sites, and it involves lying about everything' book has been driving me fucking crazy all day

YOU'RE TOO TALL EVEN IF YOU'RE 5'4" AND YOU NEED TO PLAY DOWN YOUR SUCCESSES, AND DON'T BE FUNNY, IT CONFUSES PEOPLE

god set the world on fire