Literary Clusterfucks 2013

r a c e w a r

rahowa

where's your precious edit now, you fascists

race track CANT HOLD ME DOWN

race war

I need to get away from this PLACE MORE

i don't think it's you who needs that tbf

just a little racial holy war, let's be cool

rice war (said in Australian accent)

just a little racial holy war, let's be cool

― let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, January 11, 2013 6:06 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's holy now so it's ok iirc

lol vg

altho technicall it's more like rice waugh :)

it sounds so lol when you say it aloud, as i have several times now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-waugh

Rachel Howley-Waugh (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 9 November 2012 19:53 (2 months ago)

eeeeh they stahted a fahkin rice waugh up theh yeah fahkin pissah mayte

hee sorry i love writing in strine

Race phwoar...

maybe jon doesn't really care but is just stringing everyone along

the long troll

I was pushing back! But unfortunately my position in the elevator wasn't affording me enough leverage to overcome her inertia from barrelling full speed down the hall.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:33 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm still so infuriated by this, just more pissed off by how impotent I was after this happened. Like, part of me wanted to scream at this moron for what she did, but what good would that have done?

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 19:39 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Man, the more I sit with this, the more pissed off I get.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:35 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh god yes please invoke him back to the thread that would be awesome

i dont care about this terrible thread

well this should be fun then

to some degree i care about literature and the jvc lift/boxes episode was sublime and worth reading in full

what happened some one ran into him in an elevator

lag∞n m8 do u remember the wiley track 'wearing my rolex'

i dont remember anything from that night LOLOL

it was sick

Max does his thing!

http://m.gawker.com/5974949/how-one-writer-tried-to-defy-her-publisher-and-reveal-the-abusive-relationship-hidden-in-her-romantic-memoir

max is on fire

disappointed that he was unable to reach the cowboy tho -- they probably would've ended up in the peoples' octagon

nice post max. too bad you weren't able to reach the cowboy, or get much more out of the publisher :/

I have no idea what's going on, but I read this far:

I'm sorry her relationship with that cowboy turned out so horribly and his actions do not appear very creditable or kind, but I also can't say much in favor of her judgement, which seems to land her in an endless series of fuckups which she feels she must broadcast to the universe, first asserting then retracting many fundamental ideas with an equal passion and conviction of her rightness.

― Aimless, Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:43 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...is this her way of 'talking' to her publishers, I wonder:

Alisa Valdes ‏@MizAlisa
Bookworks in ABQ reporting my memoir is"flying off the shelves" these past two days!! Yay. @gothambooks #feministandcowboy

2h Alisa Valdes ‏@MizAlisa
A very fair piece on me and my memoir in the Santa Fe newspaper. @gothambooks http://ow.ly/i/1mqTH

Also there's this:

https://www.facebook.com/events/136839429804479/

So, I just read every post to catch up on the thread. Not that my thoughts are that relevant, but:

People don't necessarily have a consistent view or presentation of their own thoughts and self-image. It's not my call to label that mental illness, a divergent personality, or "lying" and someone can regret what she said or, in fact, actually present herself as bisexual or having a certain philosophical opinion or belief and later either change her mind or regret that public disclosure. Consistency is necessary in factual journalism, but we're in a whole different realm when it comes to social behavior.

Impeaching Valdes's character or implying she's a horrible person due to some lack of consistency of vision is gross. Yes, ideally she would refuse to promote her book, but ideally she wouldn't have spent all her money and be broke. It's possible she still likes the writing in the book if she hates the content. It's possible she knows she was abused and treated like garbage but still has some fond feelings she feels conflicted about. She might pick and choose, or view things in a rosy light when doing interviews. Maybe she feels the book is a blueprint for an abusive relationship, but some relationships come with a lot of self-blame -- I would not pretend to put words in her mouth, but I can attest that there is often a feeling on the part of the abused that they were still somehow to blame, even if they can articulate why that is not the case.

She's an effusive writer without a strong sense of consistent self. That doesn't make me think she's a fake or phony, it makes me think she's a strong advocate for everyone other than herself.

It also has to be severely fucked-up for this lady to be reading positive reviews and hearing people talk about enjoying the book, validating her viewpoint that she held during this abusive relationship. She has recognized, or started to recognize, the facts of it, but people are inadvertently validating her views of the time every time they praise her portrayal.

really nice job, max

xp That's what happened in the interview I listened to for a bit--the show host started to talk about her husband, a "man's man" who insisted on opening doors for her blah blah sexist-sticks, and Valdes kind of got railroaded into giggling pleasantly and agreeing with her and then telling a story supporting that perspective.

sorry guys i was at les mis. who changed who's mind with a flawless argument this time?

http://rr-bb.com/images/smilies/attack.png

I don't think that's the point exactly. More like pushing ideas around and discovering where general location of the center of gravity. With clusterfuck threads that ideal doesn't often emerge, which is kind of what makes them clusterfucks. If anyone's mind was changed here it would have to be in terms of a shifting of emphasis rather than a 180 degree turnaround.

the first 400 posts or so were readable I think

max an asset to the human race in reportage

sorry guys i was at les mis.

sb

fu i had to bring le ms

le?

aimless, i think it's well established by now that a medium-to-good portait typist could have look at the last five or six threads on broadly similar topics and come up with something close enough to this thread to circulate to possible witnesses- down to the when and what which posters would say. No centring of gravity, not even any oxygen stirred in or an issue mildly thrashed, just identikit hostilities.

Fuckin raggett.

xp i figured la didn't sound enough alike for the pun and that masculinising her was better than insinuating a third party

I am amazed by the passive-aggressive barbs subtly strewn that invite sarcastic rejoinders and then hostilities. Reminds me of an abusive ex, tbh

respect to your ms, darragh