I think it was that A. it came at a time where sampling was still gaining acceptance and B. lol he tried to say the beat wasn't the same cuz of a 'ding' at the end
― NINO CARTER, Friday, 11 January 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
bingo
also some dude OTM, that is still hilarious
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
Have we reached the point of the thread where we can start posting random Vanilla Ice videos?
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
deej didn't you spend like 80 posts strenuously insisting that there are many differences, and not merely in the sound of the music, between Flockaveli and Finally Rich?
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, January 11, 2013 12:45 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the cultural space a record takes up isn't the same as the sound of it ... thats' the point of both the comment & my own take on this
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
s.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/popcast-chief-keef-and-cultural-tourism/
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/popcast-chief-keef-and-cultural-tourism/?smid=tw-nytimesarts&seid=auto
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but Waka says bow and Keef...don't
― NINO CARTER, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
also keef has a pink backpack and waka is a clinically depressed rageaholic
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
lol you are the most disingenuous arguer ever
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
i was just playing along with nino, why's all the heat on me jeez
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
the cultural space a record takes up
archideej's principle
― mookieproof, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
love caramanica on this. "there was a period time when there were 4 big rap blogs that were all named for cam'ron lyrics."
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
ahahaha
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
def lolled at that too
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
Wait so let me get this straight; dude has an Instagram account for pictures of his daughter, ergo that makes him the most publicly-devoted father in all of hip-hop?
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md6qqepRIf1qal6mc.gif
― markers, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
Cheif
― NINO CARTER, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
is that chris ott?
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― markers, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
man he looks terrible
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
cheif keef is a good googleproof tho
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
my analogy about pipsqueak dayo from the other day is now me while listening to this podcast
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
it's almost as if there's a missing link here
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― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
omg @ ott.gif
― al gould everything (crüt), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
well they do mention you and your review by name and mention they couldn't afford to fly you out for it
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like the entire first half of this conversation is being held between two aliens
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol i'm still only at the point where i'm referred to as "the critic"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
screen name
― mookieproof, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ddsTo.jpg
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol thats bdot tho
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
"It stinks."
omg b.dot is killing this, the conversation about "Citgo" is hilarious
"If I say Pig Latin on the record, on that same beat, does that make it hot?"
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
"But if you are in your mid-20s-""I am in my mid-20s."
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 11, 2013 3:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
maybe!
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
"content director of rap radar" is the most hilarious shit i've ever heard
ask missy elliott
#fremmeneppevenette
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
the idea that bdot is 'killing this' is hilarious
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
his entire argument is based on the idea that jordan was making out some hidden meaning to keef's lyrics which jordan never actually argues
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
i think jon makes a good argument although i'd make the argument that lyrically of COURSE keef's stuff is extremely literal in meaning, thats what makes it good lyrically. it's not trying to be 'deep' its just about what its about
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
http://karmajello.com/postcont/2012/09/you-want-it-one-way-marlo-the-wire.jpg
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
of course you think Jon is making a good argument, you like the album and have been bending over backwards to describe Keef as a formidable talent
B.Dot is arguing that, unlike practically every other person in hip-hop who has been celebrated as a formidable talent in the history of the genre, Keef's songs are illiterate bullshit, and claiming otherwise shows a disconnect in the values of what makes hip-hop great.
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
smh
― flopson, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
or maybe acting as if those values are the only values by which hip hop can be measured a great are outdated
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
keef is not at all outside those values, though. we've been over this w/ how rappers rap before. people argued about it with too short
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
and those people look stupid
i think its wrong to argue, btw, that the lyrics 'dont matter' to keef's appeal b/c i think people like him for his direct & to the point lyrics
i think bdot doesnt bother to listen to the words keef is actually saying
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
i love how j0rdan has a handle on this and then deej comes in like the people in that mr show sketch about the armless drummer
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
what the fuck are you talking about
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, January 11, 2013 3:09 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what if you farted on it instead?
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link