Literary Clusterfucks 2013

If you promise to shut the fuck up and not fall into the exact same elephant trap EVERY SINGLE TIME I will ban them both from this thread.

fyi i wasn't piling on, i just stated that idk wtf its about

MOD CRUELTY

i can only believe that the mods are actively in support of bullying.

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:42 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mods are the worst bullies of all!

It's not an elephant trap when I've fucking asked it to stop, repeatedly. How about for once the mods address the actual problem?

If you promise to shut the fuck up and not fall into the exact same elephant trap EVERY SINGLE TIME I will ban them both from this thread.

― Matt DC, Friday, January 11, 2013 11:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see

By this ilx logic if I call you an "asshole", you don't get to be offended if I think its "ridiculous".

as for the history ilx bullying i feel like the time that jw & i et al. googlebombed LJ was pretty bad and i do regret it now

if rrrobyn came in here accusing u of starting a race war I'd pay attention - amon and lagoon? not so much :)

Okay I'm going to leave them both to it then.

ilx is definitely experiencing a deficit of people feeling offended

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By this ilx logic if I call you an "asshole", you don't get to be offended if I think its "ridiculous".

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, January 11, 2013 11:57 AM

^ ban this guy

i have not accused jon of race war itt and have in fact been v reasonable in the face of his attacks!

Matt, you're not helping, in fact that is a perfect example of a mod actively supporting the bullying.

holy fuck, he just called me an asshole. Mods, wtf?

Oh no wait i absorbed it and grew stronger nm

all i said is that i find his response to race war k funny which is it irrefutably is

tbh mordy i'm curious as to why you seem to take such umbrage at people taking umbrage, is it like a personal crusade of yours to eradicate politically correct namby-pambyism or

Feminist Mom Falls Head Over Heels for Marlboro Man, January 3, 2013
By James R. Holland "Author, Photographer, Photo... (Boston, MA) - See all my reviews

This review is from: The Feminist and the Cowboy: An Unlikely Love Story (Hardcover)
"It was 2010. I was forty-one years old and a single mom to a preteen boy. I was a (recovering) journalist and reformed Ivy Leaguer, happily making a living as a writer of commercial fiction, but with no personal life to speak of...I mention all of this to somewhat lessen the blow to my ego of admitting that I, hoping to meet a real-live man-person, had joined an online dating site. Okay? I admit it. Let's move on." Thus begins this fascinating and funny memoir. The humor in the book grabs the reader's attention right from the beginning of the book. Her descriptions of the liberal and progressive, metro-sexual men she met and dated on the site are a riot. Just one example follows:

"There was the well-known blogger for the Democratic Party who tweeted about women's rights but was addicted to hard-core pornography and wanted nothing more than to spray his man-juice on a woman's face as she knelt before him in a suit." Many of her other dates turned out to be even more weird than this infamous Democratic blogger. Of course, many of the people on any kind of dating website are probably just as crazy.

Sample titles of the 336-page book's 30 chapters include "The Cowboy Reaches Out: Second Date With The Cowboy: Girl's Night Out: A Word About Feminism: The Answering Machine Doesn't Lie" and "The Come-To-Jesus Meeting."

"This distant older conservative cowboy was chock-full of grammatically intact wiseassery. It made no sense. There weren't any smart conservatives, right? Everyone I'd ever gone to Columbia University with or worked with in newspapers back east knew the hard-and-fast rule: Conservatives were stupid! Or evil! There was no other kind. Period." Wiseassery--the writer obviously knows how to turn a phrase to keep her writing moving right along.

After she told this guy off and forgot about him, the author then goes on to confess that her Cowboy was everything a woman could possibly want. But she is obviously so attracted to this rancher whom she admits is more handsome than any movie actors including Brad Pitt, that it seems impossible the match will survive. Actually, her description of her cowboy will remind most readers of Brad Pitt and some of his roles.

"Liberals have this idea that all conservatives are crazy, on the fringe, he said. That's why I prefer the term traditionalist to conservative, because most of us aren't neocons; we're just people who like traditional values. I also don't want to see liberals disappear off the face of the earth, because you guys are the conscience of humanity. We make the hard decisions that you guys won't, but we need you there to remind us to be human."

This book is amusing and full of good humor; it also has some very serious subject matter. It was fun to watch the feminist and her parents gain new insights into the relationships between men and women.

"Until we as a culture can teach men to be real men, there's no use in any woman submitting to most of the sorry-ass men out there, he said. You can't advocate women taking a more traditional role if men aren't doing what they need to be doing."

"I have no doubt, as I sit here to write this, that I will be on the receiving end of a lot of grief once this book comes out. I have no doubt that I will be seen as the enemy by many in the women's movement. I will be seen as espousing something that many people fear will set women back a couple hundred years. I also know enough by now, having been a newspaper reporter for a decade and a novelist for that same amount of time, to understand that some people will want to fight, no matter what you say to them. I used to be one of those people. I know that there are some people for whom I will always be the bad guy, no matter how I explain myself."

This is a very amusing and enjoyable read and the reader will be sorry when it ends because it is an unfinished story and the reader can only guess what will happen in the future. Will the love story between the author with her bumper sticker "I hate FOX News" and her conservative, macho rancher boy friend continue? You'll have to read the book to find out and even then the story may not have a real ending. This affair between two movie-star beautiful people, but total opposites, seems doomed to have an unhappy ending. Frankly, this reviewer would not have put up with the control the Cowboy seemed to demand for more than a couple of passionate love-making sessions.

There are certain to be former friends from the author's sisterhood who will feel this whole story was intended only to gin up the gossip mill, introduce her to a wider book audience and to get her a mountain of free publicity for this and her other books.

tbh mordy i'm curious as to why you seem to take such umbrage at people taking umbrage, is it like a personal crusade of yours to eradicate politically correct namby-pambyism or

i'm not really at war with pc namby-pambyism. i just hate the self-righteous pieties that certain ilx posters bask in.

it ought to be pointed out that more ppl think i'm an asshole than believe you started a racewar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jr9hPbYmBo

"Everyone I'd ever gone to Columbia University with or worked with in newspapers back east knew the hard-and-fast rule: Conservatives were stupid! Or evil! There was no other kind. Period."

Rings false imo

it ought to be pointed out that more ppl think i'm an asshole than believe you started a racewar.

i can safely cosign this sentiment.

why does that phrase push jon's button so hard guess i'll never know

"Everyone I'd ever gone to Columbia University with or worked with in newspapers back east knew the hard-and-fast rule: Conservatives were stupid! Or evil! There was no other kind. Period."

Rings false imo

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, January 11, 2013 12:04 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those famously conservative adverse publications the wall st journal and the washington post

i'm not really at war with pc namby-pambyism. i just hate the self-righteous pieties that certain ilx posters bask in.

― Mordy, Friday, January 11, 2013 11:03 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you know what i can't stand around here? people not naming names.

jon/via/chi

which people aren't naming names?

I shall write a book about how I love all of you, then publicize it by speaking of my hate.

curse you, Alisa Valdes, for turning us against each other

my not naming names is not a function of my passive-aggressiveness but rather a rare display of minimal restraint

we should sue her blog xp

hasn't she been through enough?

she needs a strong message board to show her the way

I was about to change my display name to "Juan, check yr cousin" and then I thought about it for a second

ned this is all yr fault

let's have a literary clusterfuck thread, he said

typo for literal clusterfuck

Ned, my sincere apologies for derailing your thread. I've made a request in another thread to address my issue.

Come, let us set aside our differences and celebrate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvkNDtW7Lw

I have often thought of ILX as an alluring but ultimately abusive cowboy lover

w/o the sexual gratification

i hope

no judgement

I started turning this thread into an erasure poem, but I only got this far:

Beginning to think maybe a rolling thread might be
as complicated and volatile as the cowboy

damn I just actually read this shit

Beginning to think maybe a rolling thread might be
as complicated and volatile as the cowboy

damn I just actually read this shit
together we'll break these chains of love

a+

don't give up
don't give up

together jonchi and mordy break these chains of love

(dunno what that means, it just rhymed good, lol)