rolling punk / non-indie underground 2013

xxp that's great

wish satanic threat had a song called "guilty of being cross"

new nu sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDtcFU_RpxE

these guys releasing something soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDtcFU_RpxE

oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCH5-UPcDx4

sorry for youtube bombing this thread but this is an awesome and hilarious video imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZTDLvMsaYY

might be going to this, april 18 - 21 nyc. crazy lineup

Altered Boys (NJ)
Anasazi (NYC)
Aspects of War (MA)
Bad Noids (OH)
Birth Deformities (IL)
Bloodkrow Butcher (MA)
Bortgang (NYC)
Crazy Spirit (NYC)
CREEM (NYC)
Cülo (IL)
Dawn of Humans (NYC)
Deformity (NYC)
Double Negative (NC)
Drapetomania (CA)
Ectoplasm (FL)
EEL (PA)
Glam (Spain)
Goosebumps (NYC)
Hank Wood & the Hammerheads (NYC)
Hoax (MA)
Hounds of Hate (PA)
Hysterics (WA)
Kremlin (TO)
La Misma (NYC)
Missionary (NYC)
No Class (MO)
Nomad (NYC)
Perdition (NYC)
The Rival Mob (MA)
S.H.I.T. (TO)
Sad Boys (NYC)
Stagnation (Japan)
Slugz (RVA)
Subclinix (MA)
Truncheons (MTL)
Una Bestia Incontrolable (Spain)
Violent Future (TO)
Violent Reaction (UK)
Warthog (NYC)
Who Killed Spikey Jacket? (MA)

Culo, Hoax, No Class? Sounds like a good show.

cülo lp leaked and it's so good it's crazy

ok so this is years old but it just went up on the FMA and it's brilliant so w/e

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/BLOODHUFF/st_1618/raper_charlie

Hey all, I'm new to the thread, so not sure if it's up your collective alley (and a few searches turned up no mentions of these guys anywhere on ILM) but I'm loving this recent discovery, band out of Detroit called the Armed. Some Converge vibes in intensity level especially, but a bit more straight-up hardcore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aomnf17g_lg

Released in 2012, but like mid-December, so only fair to wedge it into rolling 2013. All of their releases are available on their website for free lossless (!) download: thearmed.com

detroit madmen child bite rolled thru town last night. weird mix of stooges/mc5 bluster, dischord style math rock, and good old spazzout spazziness. worth checking out if they come to your burg.

also 3 piece tinsel teeth dinner still kicks like a methed out mule fyi and btw

a couple years old, my favorite Cleveland band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAnFW-vcP8g

NYC nu-no-wave-post-punky band Sediment Club

The singer guitar player is the son of Ivan Julien of the Voidoids and Cynthia Sley of the Bush Tetras. family biz

http://softspotmusic.bandcamp.com/album/time-decay-now

they've played a lot of shows here since austin moved to town but I haven't caught em live yet

is colonel poo still around? I wonder what he'd make of this comp of pvd hardcore bands, sounds like 1986 up in here: http://atomicactionrecords.bandcamp.com/album/v-a-you-cant-kill-me-im-already-dead

2013 can start now: http://jtclassics.co.uk/product.php?id_product=47 / http://jtclassics.co.uk/product.php?id_product=51

TRACK LISTING

Side One
1. Council Estate (with Marion Herbain & Roxanne Clifford)
2. The Man Who Ran The Town (with Joanna Newsom)
3. You Still Here? (with Miki Berenyi)
4. Crack On, Have A Booze (with Manda Rin)
5. Police Car (Chasing You) (with Liela Moss)
6. Another Terrace Anthem (with Mustard Gas)

Side Two
1. Sausage Man (with Debbie Smith)
2. We're Gonna Do Them (with Beth Jeans Houghton)
3. The Kids Are Innocent (with Beki Bondage)
4. Two Bob Cunt (with Alela Diane)
5. That's Bollocks Mate (with Beckie Chaos)
6. The Gipsy Hill (with Alison Mosshart)

Crack On, Have A Booze (with Manda Rin)

oy

since chr1s won't post this...new STNNNG, recorded w/albini, mastered at abbey road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc7AZMOO35Q&sns=fb

cool

just taking advantage of Sorry State Records sticking everything on their bandcamp and in doing so vibing to ROUGH KIDS - I believe they're from Chapel Hill - UK 77/NYC 76 (ish)/powerpop done perfectly - below seems p reasonable

Building on the sound of their previous two singles, LA's Rough Kids polish things up for their debut full-length on Sorry State. Benefitting from a bigger, more ambitious sound (including a punchy mastering job by Dave Rahn from the Carbonas), Rough Kids trade in classic punk hooks delivered with an intensity that will snare even the toughest hardcore kids. Lovers of '77 punk will flip for the sick Johnny Thunders licks, fans of modern bands like No Hope for the Kids and the Observers will love the big, dark vocal hooks, and the hardcore kids will bang their first the entire time. A truly outstanding collection of songs.

weakwick, kinda noise assault stuff w/bratty punk vox

http://soundcloud.com/weakwick

i need to see stnnng again. last time involved a birthday cake and shenanigans.

is colonel poo still around? I wonder what he'd make of this comp of pvd hardcore bands, sounds like 1986 up in here: http://atomicactionrecords.bandcamp.com/album/v-a-you-cant-kill-me-im-already-dead

I am around but not posting much... thanks for the recommendation, will check it out!

Also psyched for new Hard Skin!

fyi I've been singing your user name to the tune of "dr wu" all week

Just got into Whore Paint. They get a lot of Arab on Radar and Doomsday Student comparisons, but I don't hear it. I think MRR described them best "babes in Toyland meets Christian Death."

Also, drum n bass darlings, Sheeps Head just keep getting better and better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAu_Pt6MzU

yeah, whore paint's been tearing it up for a couple years now, glad to see they're getting some notice. AoR/doomsday student comparisons are just lazy, I can name bands that sound like AoR (pre, aids wolf) and whore paint ain't one of em. it's fractured surf/garage/hard rock riffs with tribal drums and vocals like a torch singer dropped in a bottomless well. I dug the whore paint single but it didn't fully capture the sweaty muscle of their live sound. they've got a full length in the can that should be out this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TLwKwwIWE

in other news, caught guerilla toss last night. yeah they're another no wave outfit. but they're great players with an aggressive rock feel, so give em a chance even if you're not down with the herky-jerk. the "singer" will be a dealkiller for many, but the vocals are tightly synced with the music, and it's a neat trick to sound wild and spontaneous on something that's obv well rehearsed. plus they're having a good time at all times. they've got an LP on feeding tube, a tape split with flaming dragons of middle earth, and an upcoming CD on tzadik.

from monday's baltimore show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9AEYfN_yI

haha as soon as you said "the singer will be a dealkiller for many" i thought that it would be something i'd be into. She's kinda somewhere in between Christy from K.I.T. and the woman from Ponytail.

yeah it's right up yr alley. I picked up a tape from them called gorilla tease. good shit.

new EP by INSERVIBLES out of Mexico is great and ridiculous. the guitars are almost like some freeform psych thing played w/ the intensity of like Void. you can download it on the link above btw I think

got some questions for you guys...

are there what is i guess derisively called "p.c. punk" scenes in your cities? what are your experiences with them? what style of music do they tend to gravitate around? have you ever had difficulties booking shows at safe-space/anti-oppresion venues because of the name or lyrical content of bands on the bill? have there been any confrontations between members of the broader punk scene & these scenes?

This was actually released last year but since no one mentioned it then, for fans of noisy-melodic pop-punk, Audacity's Mellow Cruisers is one of the best in the genre since the FM Knives folded.

The Bay Area has a pretty strong scene that could be considered "PC." When I lived up there I went to a lot of shows in that scene. I had a mixed experience with it. First off, I would like to say, almost all of the bands were/are great. The music style tended to shift toward noise, punk, and weird noise punk stuff. Examples would be Sister Fucker, No Babies, Strip Mall Seizures, High Castle, Dadfag, Stillsuit etc. I'm only going to speak of my experiences personally. While I lived in the area, the shows were great, everyone seemed to really get along, and some great music came out of it. After I moved back to Socal, that was around the time the Occupy movement started up, and so a lot of racial and gender related issues were being brought up and discussed. At the time, I had a less than enlightened view on such subjects, and while no malice was intended, I certainly did express some fairly ignorant white-male-hetero-privileged viewpoints. Nothing actually against any group of people, more full on ignorance such as "reverse discrimination" bullshit, taking offense to the idea of shows for marginalized groups only, and not understanding the purpose/function of safe-spaces. Understandably so, I did experience some animosity and extreme backlash, and cut ties with / was cut off from a lot of the bands/people that I admired / respected/ enjoyed hanging out with from that scene. That was a couple years ago, and I have since learned the errors of the ways I used to think, and have gained some more cultural perspective, so in a sense it was kind of a good thing that it happened. I do truly regret some of the views that I espoused at the time, and it is a shame that I lost touch with so many people because of it, but at the same time I am a little grateful that it happened, because it definitely did get me thinking about my own privileged mindset. While I can't say I totally "get" or "understand" the struggles of people of color, women, or the LGBTQ community, as I don't know what it is actually like to be a member of an oppressed group, I definitely have gained more empathy and perspective on the matter.

killer song: Bed Wettin' Bad Boys - Bite My Tongue

https://soundcloud.com/ripsociety/bed-wettin-bad-boys-bite-my

new EP by INSERVIBLES out of Mexico is great and ridiculous. the guitars are almost like some freeform psych thing played w/ the intensity of like Void. you can download it on the link above btw I think

Wow. Shit's crazy, I can't decide of I'm really hearing a Bone Awl/Akitsa influence there or it's just the filthy production.

have you ever had difficulties booking shows at safe-space/anti-oppresion venues because of the name or lyrical content of bands on the bill? have there been any confrontations between members of the broader punk scene & these scenes?

nice response by izzy pod. these types of things flare up from time to time here but the scene is pretty strongly progay (for a couple years there was a gay bar booking shows downtown and everybody from noisers to punkers to metal dudes lined up to play in front of a screen projecting hardcore gay pr0n) and prowoman (there are a couple of feminist collectives involved in the scene, one has been around for almost 15 years), with a high tolerance for outlandish behavior from all sides. most conflict I see is folks crowing on the local muso forums, I remember a post from somebody complaining that a band called faggot used the n word - personally, I did not expect that band to provide a flagrant display of decorum.

obv a lot of punk and noise bands are reflecting negativity or exploring transgression or w/e, and I'm kind of reading into yr post here w/o the details, but it's a tricky line to walk between critiquing oppression and being oppressive and a lot of bands can get it wrong real easy. the basics of aesthetics are tricky enough for most folks without playing with the fire of inflammatory speech. and nothing gets me crazier than ppl who go all out to offend and then get pissed cuz someone is in fact offended.

generally speaking if somebody's running a safe-space/anti-oppression venue and they don't want to book you, getting confrontational about it is NAGL. it's all well and good to defend freedom of expression but if somebody starts sounding like some pushy reverse discrimination asshole on fox news they might be part of the problem. and, real talk, if somebody doesn't like a booking policy they should book their own shows or start their own space.

new blank realm album on siltbreeze is cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI-JwaGmeQI

the album is a lot less "punk" than that live clip, more synths and clean guitars and weird shit, but is still cool

Los Crudos are playing a reformation show in Chicago in a few weeks at what appears to be a five-a-side soccerball pitch

new stnnng album is gonna smoke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvXG6nEWXeE

Izzy Pod, thanks for that.

i'd say that the bay area has many different scenes and factions, with some crossover. i'll break it down for you a bit.

- art/noise punks: i'd say that most of the band Izzy mentioned fall within this camp. tend towards either harsher noisy punk, minimal no-wave style, spastic sounds, or synth-punk. it's pretty diverse and pretty "pc" so to speak, but there's also some of the "let us use offensive imagery" bullshit (as in bands wearing Asatru symbols and other white supremacist related bullshit) within that camp. which is why....

- the anarcho-punk/crusty kids hate the art punks, but also engage in some heterosexist and homophobic shit from time to time, despite the fact that so many squatters and punks in the bay are queers. the sort of nasty shit that goes on in this scene mostly comes from...

- the metal and crossover kids, who are mostly fucking assholes. what's weird is that a lot of these people also are really into pop-punk, and are constantly at war with the art/noise punks because there is a noise/improv/weirdo music venue right next to a venerable old punk house in west oakland. no shit, when there are shows at that venue, the punk kids BLAST music from all the speakers in the house out the windows so that no one can go into the noise venue without being assaulted by punk spit and bile.

anyway. enough from me.

thanks for being really forthcoming, Izzy. sorry i didn't engage you in dialog at the time, but i was too pissed off to maintain composure. hope to see you again sometime.

do you guys listen to any european punk bands, new or old? i have been reading a lot of punk bands described as "euro-influenced" lately but i never know what they're referring to...

Concrete Sox have just cancelled all their upcoming shows.

xp any bands in particular? obv Europe is tiny etc etc but "euro-influenced" seems unhelpfully vague

hardcore punk bands i guess

if I was a betting man I'd envisage the more crazypants Italian and Finnish kinda bands from the 80s but yeah who knows really

there's still a finnish hardcore scene, as bands w/ unpronounceable names still come through town from time to time (and I'm in the US)

Any thoughts on the new Iceage album? Discussions on them are getting pretty heated lately

always been lukewarm on those guys, new album did nothing to sway me

more discussion here Iceage - You're Nothing

can always count on contenderizer to be overcome by enthusiasm when a record is playing

at the moment weed sound to me kind of like hum if hum were a lot dumber and weeded out and had never listened to rush

like hum if hum were a lot dumber and weeded out and had never listened to rush

all to the good. and guilty as charged, but i'm liking it just as much today, in retrospective afterglow. just ordered vinyl from couple skate!

my hum comparison wore off after i left my office and put my headphones back on, but there is still a bit of it in the vocals and the general haze of the guitars.

ah, 90s harmonies.

this Weed is pretty dank stuff

like hum if hum were a lot dumber and weeded out and had never listened to rush

feelin this description, otm

every once in awhile a riff will remind me of gish-era pumpkins

yeah just think if they had a jimmy chamberlain

yeah don't mind this drummer tho, gives it a more pounding thuggy vibe than pumpkins or hum

been cleaning out the basement, ran across this CD, what a classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYuWBPtLu4k

yeah, great song. production's a little slick though.

lol

new audacity is so fucken great. ambitious, crafty, memorable: everything good. riyl exploding hearts, redd kross, supergrass, early xtc, squeeze, power pop and/or music.

the audacity record rules - they get so much mileage out of those big tempo/key changes. sounds great as a slightly mellower west coast counterpart to that so so glos record, almost (aka the other recent thing i love that openly apes exploding hearts, which is a reference point i'm REALLY okay with more bands having in 2013)

I liked the exploding hearts but is that comparison a bit overused? I mean they were just a Boys homage with a tragic story. You could just say "they sound like The Boys".

or you could say, they sound like The Exploding Farts

to me, the exploding hearts make a tighter comparison where audacity are concerned simply because i hear the same "squeeze-like" sense of melody & harmony in both. not saying that either owes anything directly to squeeze, just that i can't help hearing a commonality. and sure, the boys, yeah.

guitar romantic is a perfect thing

and i thought that before they died so it's not that

this audacity is good....but basically there are 3 albums in that sorta vein that are so good i almost never listen to anything else in that vein: Exploding Hearts - Guitar Romantic, Marked Men - Fix My Brain, and Jay Reatard - Blood Visions

yeah, those are all-time, can't deny it. dunno that audacity is quite at that level, hook-wise, but i like the (relative) complexity of their song construction, the tension between flailing chaos and ambitious pop craftsmanship. each of their albums has half-impressed me at first, but only really opened up over a substantial number of listens.

("flailing chaos" dialed back on the new one)

yeah i like how they throw in a lot of tempo and feel changes in their songs a lot of those bands don't do that

new Fake Limbs album: http://fakelimbs.bandcamp.com/

What's the name of the Audacity LP? I'm only seeing a 2012 one on their Bandcamp (I am bad at Google)

new one's called butter knife and features an incandescent chest wound. i owe know why their bandcamp is still pushing last years's model.

i like the audacity. seems a bit monochromatic. but i can give it time.

prefer gaytheist at the moment as far as bratty/snotty guitar records go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g2KNxYVPd54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2KNxYVPd54&feature=youtu.be

that's so cuet :) the church of punk!

have we talked about the new Cheap Time...it's fucking great!

I see the guy who does Church of Punk at gigs all the time. Crusty dude with face tattoos. Don't know him tho.

I skipped Cheap Time gig last week to see the Cockney Rejects/Spizz Energi/Chron Gen/Vice Squad instead. Keeping it old school. Going to Conflict/Subhumans all-dayer tomorrow, not sure if system will be comprehensively smashed but I'm sure they'll have a good crack at it.

I haven't listened to the Cheap Time album yet but the Jeffrey Novak solo album (Lemon Kid) is pretty good.

I googled this band so you wouldn't have to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i07jeinliKE

brainbombs have a lot to answer for

(awesome track tho!)

got the Hoax LP in the post today. the packaging is awesome, with six hueg doublesided foldout posters with artwork and lyrics for each song. the only thing is their lyrics are basically terrible so it kind of comes off as absurdly hubristic

can u post some lyrics

band from Mpls:
MRS.

they have a new album:
https://mrsband.bandcamp.com/album/cave

it's pretty 90s non indie underground, but i'm really into it. it's got this hyper percussive white funk goes Am Rep/Pigbag meets DEVO...the vocals could be a love it or hate it deal...i dunno...the hyper fussiness of the arrangments is doing something for me

I've been loving the Weed and Ovlov albums people mentioned in this thread - what other bands are doing that 90s-aping Dino jr. Worship stuff?

Whoa I hadn't listened to Ovlov yet and it's fantastic and I'm not even really that big of a Dino Jr fan.

xp

California X is very much a bubblegum-y take on Dino jr. worship and very good

Milk Music too, not bubblegum, just Dino

This rules: http://cleangirls.bandcamp.com/

noisy/goth-y/punk stuff. First song reminds me a bit of Pissed Jeans; third track is probably the most hypnotic

whoops; specifically meant this e.p.: http://cleangirls.bandcamp.com/album/last-house-ep

thx, that's some good shit

(to give credit - I was hipped to it via Mosurock's tumblr: http://still-single.tumblr.com/)

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/216461958/first-listen-potty-mouth-hell-bent

Since the album was from 2013 and is still streaming and they're on tour in the US now (DC tomorrow night) I posted that here. Does NPR streaming status make them no longer non-indie?