ATTN: Copyeditors and Grammar Fiends

q:

should the 'a' in "fuckin' a" be capitalized in a normal orthographical context?

i think not, but i don't have a chicago manual handy to try to figure out what sort of rule they would slot it under.

btw, this thread has lots of "fucking"s in it. most seem to be of scottish provenance if i am not mistaken. fuckin' a.

kinda feel like it should be capitalized

Just like someone would say he's fitted to a T, I too would think A is capitalized.

You could say, Fuckin' "A," but c'mon, that looks ridiculous.

I say capitalized.

The convention would be the same as that used for referencing the letter A within a sentence, so that I favor capitalizing it as well. I would also be certain to cite this phrase only within a direct quotation attributed to a person or a fictional character, rather than as an integral part of a body of unquoted text.

shit, what, dudes can't use "fuckin' a", only mention it or attribute its use to others?

dudes who toss a fuckin' A into the midst of whatever they are writing should never require the assistance or reassurances of a grammar fiend on the proprieties of its orthographic presentation. they just fuckin' well toss it is and say fuck you if you don't like how it looks. or at least that is my best understanding of such dudes and their proclivities.

fuckin a, dude.

you see the justice in my contentions then?

this is probably covered in the 3909 messages above, but where do we stand on fuckin' vs. fucken vs. fucking etc.

nuances of expression, context is king

actually, for the same reason, aimless, i think you are wrong. there are always right and wrong ways to say things!

getting dainty now, are we?

there's a time and a place

(he dabs the corners of his mouth with a crisp linen napkin and places it down next to his plate, smiles warmly and speaks)

You can say what you like, Your Royal Highness, but fuckin' A that was a prime bit of tucker and no mistake.

wtf is fucken?

it's a fuck inside of a chicken

cankles-speak iirc

i'm actually with aimless on fuckin a, i wouldn't messageboard capitalize it because too much work but if i were to use it formally (...) i would

objet fuckin' a

aimless otm

fucken, eh?

I know, I know, STYLES, but:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/4-copy-editors-killed-in-ongoing-ap-style-chicago,30806/

Also, orthography game:

http://type.method.ac/

"...many of whom are displaced refugees who risk imprisonment to travel for even the most basic care."

that second "who"...it's who, not whom, right? they are traveling, who = subject, care = object?

I would say so. Whom usually only used after a preposition - if at all - these days.

plus a double-whom would make that a really strange-sounding sentence

could just say "risking"

yes, "who" because it's the subject of the relative clause

(though the direct object is "imprisonment" and I guess "care" is some kind of indirect object but that's where my grammar runs out - not that it makes any difference to the who/whom question here)

ha no yeah you're right about the object

thx!

If I wanted to file Dr. John alphabetically, would he go under D or J? Wikipedia lists him under J, but to argue against that, the title is part of his stage name, so D, no?

Yeah D. A possibly more interesting question is whether he goes with the Do's or the Dr's. I would say Do on the basis that Dr. is an abbreviation.

Good question, though I would lean the other way, just because you have to go by the letters you actually see, and not infer them ( though we pronounce them that way).

Excel imo

Hope he doesn't get filed in the wrong place at the wrong time.

You should not file music alphabetically imo.

Yes, file it by tempo instead.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/gamalielratsey/2013-03-09095803_zps2648a64c.jpg

wealth-blessing plz.

haha

Fighting shy of colons-stupid or beyond stupid?

Colons are not just for Sunday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22403731
What kind of lunatic complains about the phrase 'too much, too young'?

After a childhood avid for the praise generated by my schoolwork's demonstration of correct spelling and punctuation I have slowly turned traitor to the whole notion that minor aberrations in either category are worth paying attention to. I accept them in informal writing without demur, unless they somehow obscure the meaning or introduce an unwanted ambiguity.

I especially condemn those who become hissy over perfectly good split infinitives.

xp http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4606

^ I can't open that link, caek

try now?

http://nowealth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/the-goveites-behind-bad-grammar-awards.html

Ah, so *that* kind of lunatic

Funny thing about the "bad grammar awards" is that there's actually only one award, so they can't even get the basics right.

Writing report cards...I think I know the answer to this, but I want to double-check: "Moses's" or "Moses'"? (Has to do with his best piece of art, not his commandments.)