Finally Rich - Chief Keef

after said video was posted to ilx for the first time:

haha waka kinda owns that video

― aim chtza (The Reverend), Friday, December 25, 2009 9:18 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

waka is so gifable!

― stupid fruity crazy jag (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 25, 2009 10:03 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the middle one duh

waka is so gifable!

― stupid fruity crazy jag (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 25, 2009 10:03 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this proved to be correct

http://smokenmirrorsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/waka_relaxxxin.gif

think we're not really arguing so much about 'best rap lyric of the year' so much as 'best rap catchphrase of the year'

j0rdan shutting down an argument by linking a search of a song title in twitter is some jason newsted "yes, we sell out ::claps hands:: every night, every seat in the house" shit

― ThePartyHater (some dude), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:23 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

sorry that i turned to an obvious place in order to show that many people find his lyrics memorable

wait that gif is from 2010? how can that be? deej told me waka's charisma is a sudden 2012 invention! (xpost)

if you want to prove the LYRICS are memorable why did you link a search for a SONG TITLE

because it's also the central lyric and if you scroll through the results it's as much people quoting the hook than saying "hey i really like that song 'hate being sober'"

eh when i scrolled through it like every 20th tweet was a quote

j0rdan thinks The Source's "hip hop quotable of the month" used to be like 'you can find me in da club/ bottle full of bub'

too many encores, what makes a good lyricist?

there's no single yardstick - certainly not in rap, which did more to stretch the parameters of how to write well within a genre than any single genre ever has imo - as many styles as there are good writers. that said, solid rhymes are nice, being comfortable with meter but able to move freely within in it is great (this is imo where corny dudes do indeed go crazy for Nas, whose old stuff really did scan like he meant for it to be printed and studied), unexpected similies/metaphors/comparisons that jump out but not too harshly are good. vivid imagery that points to a vision uniquely belonging to the lyricist, one that's identifiably in a voice so that if somebody else covered it you might still be able to say "that sounds like a Chief Keef lyric." (I don't think anyone will ever say that.)

I mean there's no end to what makes a good lyricist, it's an endless craft.

j0rdan thinks The Source's "hip hop quotable of the month" used to be like 'you can find me in da club/ bottle full of bub'

― ThePartyHater (some dude), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i've spent more time than arguably anyone in the history of ilm transcribing lyrics to this message board, but that doesn't mean that all lyrics have to function the same way

so what's the line from a chief keef VERSE that people everywhere are quoting

J0rdan will you own that I am not claiming anywhere that all lyrics have to function in the same way because that is not my deal like at all and I take offense, sir, at the accusation as I perceive it

good thread. interesting to see the conservative view move/adjust/reject.

it's so I can see if you can actually cite any good lyrics by this guy you rep. you can't, because he is a shitty rapper and terrible lyricist.

you judge poets in the same way, aero? ask b/c I know you are a fan, just wonder if you hold them up to that same test.

you're asking if avid poetry readers can cite passages by their favorite poets that they consider exemplary?

J0rdan will you own that I am not claiming anywhere that all lyrics have to function in the same way because that is not my deal like at all and I take offense, sir, at the accusation as I perceive it

― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:55 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

okay. i do think your parameters as they pertain to keef are very rigid.

underrated poets i have found exemplary

good rap lyrics are lyrics that sound good when the rapper who wrote it raps it. Gets bonus points if style is original.

depends on the style of poetry - classic metrical poets for sure, if no phrases stick at all then wtf kind of poet is that? whatever you want to call poetry since the rise of unmetered verse/open forms/whatever, very different class of stuff, I can't quote many/any? lines from my favorite novels probably except Absalom, Absalom! but that doesn't mean it didn't leave a huge impression, it's just less about lines & phrases than the big effect. a lot of my trouble with open forms in poetry has to do with this though, long boring talk to be had by me there any old time so stop on by

well yeah i didn't think we were talking about MEMORIZING -- obviously that's much easier to do w/ music than printed verse

this is getting pretty silly. dude is making music - some people like it, some people think it is garbage, nobody has nice things to say about those making the opposite case.

wait that gif is from 2010? how can that be? deej told me waka's charisma is a sudden 2012 invention! (xpost)

― ThePartyHater (some dude), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:41 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i would say that ppl coming around on him being charismatic as a person are based more upon his irl antics than his personality in his music, which is pretty gruff & aggro

ILX rarely has nice things to say about people making the same case, why would you expect otherwise for the opposite

also it was originally JOYOUS and charismatic & there is seriously nothing JOYOUS about flockaveli imo

so j0rdan and rev's posts about being entertaining by waka's performance in a video in 2009 are what? an aberration?

yes because he at one time was being entertaining, that means that flockaveli is full of joyous charisma

there is seriously nothing joyous about YEAHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh IT'S A PARTY IT'S A PARTY IT'S A PARTY

http://smokenmirrorsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/waka_relaxxxin.gif

the original thread WAKA and your own thread get drunk & listen to waka flocka flame sure do fail to capture the grim reality of that album huh

jesus christ dude i dont even fucking remember the original context where i'm disagreeing w/ joyous charisma but when you turn any nuanced discussion into a one-dimensional strawman argument that is impossible for you to lose it's super annoying

like, yes, OBVIOUSLY flockaveli has party songs, if i remember we were talking about flockaveli relative to 'finally rich' & i was arguing that there's no way you could argue the latter was any more 'grim' or 'joyless' than the former

this is getting pretty silly

how dare you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Di5h_PpyJ0

the original context is THIS THREAD, i'm not diggin in the crates dog

this 1000+ multi-day thread?

100+ post

argh 1000+ post, multi-day thread

i realize there's no easy to search uncommon words like "waka" that you could check for

me not doing that is to show how little i give a fuck about your pedant argument

"bingo" is such an awesome song btw

totally

one-dimensional strawman arguments, that's that ship I don't like

i wasn't always so one-dimensional, but then i got media savvy and realized it made for good gifs

a reference so deep it will probably become a board description

tbf your og flockaveli review harped on about how he was an "unrepentant street-rap hardhead" with a "grizzled bark" so at least you're consistently out of step with how virtually every other fan of that record hears it

fwiw one of those terms was changed in editing

the latter, to be specific

its a lil breihanic, no shots, for me

grizzly bark - wakatimest