David Bowie - The Next Day

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c'mon, he invented sexual tourism!

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

Christ, the Dschungel club on Nurnburgerstrasse, near KaDeWe... instant nostalgia for my year in Berlin. The place was a bit up itself, though.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

Is this his 'When We Was Fab'?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

^^Good call - he should have got Iggy and Brian to appear in the video.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 10:51 (eleven years ago) link

It's a bit overwrought and at the same time doesn't really say anything. Don't get me wrong, I really wanted to like this. If it had been anyone but Bowie I wouldn't have patiently sat through all of it. But it comes out shortly after a new Scott Walker album, and Walker does this kind of lyric and singing a lot better, and also, crucially, with a sense of humour.

scattered to the nine vectors (snoball), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

Did he just wait until the day after Suede put out their big comeback single or is that a coincidence? Anyway way to steal their thunder.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

You can sing Fantastic Voyage over this.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:06 (eleven years ago) link

xp kind of backfired, because the Suede track is way better.

scattered to the nine vectors (snoball), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:07 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah that's true. Pretty sure he put out Black Tie White Noise the week after their debut too and Suede won that round too.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

it sounds a bit like that song from Drive

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

wait, was it from Drive. it sounds like an unspecified song that I think was in Drive. stay tuned.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

STAY RETIRED

attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

the whole sound and look of the video gives this an 'outside' era feel (the twisted face effect in the video).

its not an immediate hit-you-in-the-face song, but as an album track, i think its rather lovely.

on another point of interest, can you imagine the secrecy clauses that folks have had to sign in order to be involved - i mean, in the last 12 months there has been a lot of pressure/interest re new material, and not a word has leaked out from anyone involved in this.

in this day and age, i think that's mighty impressive.

mark e, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ My other half talks to Bowie's management all the time and she and none of her work colleagues knew nothing.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

ugh dbl neg, sorry

MaresNest, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

Good call on When We Was Fab! Amazing spot.

piscesx, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

Will listen in a few minutes but I'm disappointed he didn't stay retired -- what a brilliant move it was.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 11:54 (eleven years ago) link

Here's the joke (or at least until I actually hear the song): today's his 65th birthday.

clemenza, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i think i said on another thread that i quite liked the idea of him just disappearing off into the sunset never to be heard from again.

mark e, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

66th birthday.

I am so glad there's not supposed to be interviews/tour happening, just a record.

karl lagerlout (suzy), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

66th birthday. It's a crazy week for b'days... Sandy Denny (she'd also have been 66), Scott Walker, Bernard Sumner, Michael Stipe, Beth Gibbons, Robin Guthrie, Mark Hollis... (I only know this because it's also a crazy week for friends' birthdays, so you tend to look this stuff up).

xp

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

And of course, at least seventeen more entries for the Bowiesongs blog to expect.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:39 AM (6 hours ago)

It would be great if the rest of Bowie's career was just dedicated to messing with that guy. "There, finished! I've written a blog entry for every single Bowie song ever... dammmit he's just released a new album!!!"

scattered to the nine vectors (snoball), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

there was also that Paolo Hewitt coffeetable book which came out a few weeks ago, covers all his albums in an entry-level kind of way and concludes with a slightly gloomy "well we've not heard shit from him for years, guess that's that then"

die bis scum (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:17 (eleven years ago) link

66th birthday. It's a crazy week for b'days... Sandy Denny (she'd also have been 66), Scott Walker, Bernard Sumner, Michael Stipe, Beth Gibbons, Robin Guthrie, Mark Hollis... (I only know this because it's also a crazy week for friends' birthdays, so you tend to look this stuff up).

Today would've been Elvis's 78th birthday as well.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

I'm kinda surprised that he's still associated with the major label, or affiliate or whatever it is, that he hooked up with in the early 2000s…I would have thought until earlier this morning that one reason for his sabbatical is that he wanted to sit a contract out…

I interviewed him as he was finishing Reality: I was terrified, but he couldn't have been more friendly. Thought he would be sporting an avant garde japanese suit, but was wearing a rugby shirt and khakis…

veronica moser, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

The new single is currently number two on the UK itunes chart inbetween Will.i.am and Taylor Swift, have to say I'm pretty shocked by that.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

Bit of a dreary song, sorry David.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

song is boring, but it's no surprise

nostormo, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

I don't like the song very much, but I'm very happy it has come out because there had been a lot of rumors around that he was very ill. Hopefully the song/album disproves that.

this will surprise many (Nicole), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

Please say there will be a vinyl release of this.

Maria Tesla Pizzeria, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

all together now..

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

I've liked the lead singles from his albums for a good long while so I don't put a lot of stock in how much I like this - which is "a good bit"; I wish it had no "as long as there's me/as long as there's you" climax, the meandering vibe is stronger. Is this a song about when he was making Heroes/Low/Lodger or about the fall of the Berlin wall? I think get bent is otm, it sounds quickly written, and I think that's good - old men working on music seem to dither until there's nothing interesting left, I don't think the digital age has done any favors for aging musicians in this regard. he's singing well to my ears but there's also lots of treatment on the voice, no idea what besides compression but it's a little offputting to me.

I dream of this being a really interesting record.

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

You're right, 66th--speaking of old people losing their memory, who went and changed the calendar on me?

clemenza, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

he's singing well to my ears

Definitely still in good (and highly distinctive) voice.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

it's a mysterious achievement that Bowie and co. succeed in keeping the recording process so secretly till now.

nostormo, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

on another point of interest, can you imagine the secrecy clauses that folks have had to sign in order to be involved - i mean, in the last 12 months there has been a lot of pressure/interest re new material, and not a word has leaked out from anyone involved in this.

Yeah, lame humblebrag but: I had just heard a few weeks ago that almost certainly something was going to be announced on his birthday, and that he had been busy recording this past year, but was keeping quiet since that news would have blown up pretty quickly, obviously. In fact just before the news broke I was texting my source going "Hey, any further word on that?" And lo and behold...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:34 (eleven years ago) link

SO WHY DID YOU KEEP IT TO YOURSELF?

nostormo, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

This is actually supposed to be the cover art for the album!

http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/11057/the_next_day_1357633247_crop_550x550.jpg

(If that doesn't work, check out http://thequietus.com/articles/11057-david-bowie-where-are-we-now

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

xpost -- One source, close friend. Not about to torch that for the sake of a fucking exclusive!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

I actually kind of like this, I have to say.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link

Please say there will be a vinyl release of this.

A post here says there will be.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, but who reads ilx anyway..and i'm sure you trust us not to tell..
xxpost

nostormo, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

if we knew, we'd have told you, ned.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

boring tracklist, too:

01. The Next Day 3:51
02. Dirty Boys 2:58
03. The Stars (Are Out Tonight) 3:56
04. Love Is Lost 3:57
05. Where Are We Now? 4:08
06. Valentine's Day 3:01
07. If You Can See Me 3:16
08. I'd Rather Be High 3:53
09. Boss Of Me 4:09
10. Dancing Out In Space 3:24
11. How Does The Grass Grow 4:33
12. (You Will) Set The World On Fire 3:30
13. You Feel So Lonely You Could Die 4:41
14. Heat 4:25

nostormo, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

covering They Might Be Giants is a curveball tbf

die bis scum (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

some of those title sound like rejected Deram-era songs

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

pretty excited for "I'd Rather Be High"

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

1) I also think this sounds a bit like Robert Wyatt, or could have used a touch of Wyatt

2) It also sounds more than a little like his "Silly Little Fat Man" song from Extras, in terms of vive and cadence.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

09. Boss Of Me 4:09

I hope this a cover of the Malcolm in the Middle theme tune.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Well this revive is all going swimmingly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

The Next Day is a special case. I've wondered if Bowie at the time might have already thought it could have been his swan song? In any case Blackstar more or less obliterated it in its force. Which takes away some of The Next Day's appeal and shine, because it's probably underrated and really good.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

As for The Next Day, I still like the record a lot, although definitely not as much as Blackstar. Last time I listened to the record I really enjoyed it, particularly 'If You Can See Me', which always felt like it had a Scary Monsters vibe about it. It'd be great to hear what everyone thinks about the record now, preferably without Le Bateau Ivre turning up and acting like an utter weapon. I know Alfred in particular was cold on it.

(xxpost)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

reality, the next day and blackstar is an extremely good run

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

I'm not convinced that The Next Day was ever designed to be a swan song, rather the next chapter of Bowie's career, although the last song on The Next Day sounds like it would have made a perfect career closer. If Bowie hadn't fallen ill, I believe we would have had more music from him by now, but at the same time we may not have had Blackstar in the form that it was released.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

This record still is not very good, an enthusiastic retread of modes and instrumental choices he had even by then discarded.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

Reality is underrated, IMO... I probably like that and Heathen more than The Next Day, and Outside over all of 'em. In fact, if it wasn't for hours... I'd say Bowie's work from 1995 onwards was quite strong... not 1971-1980 strong, but a very good run of LP's in their own right.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link

That's about right.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

oh heathen, i forgot about that record. It was not bad iirc

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

Heathen is my favorite late-period Bowie next to Blackstar, for sure.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

I get what Ned's saying, though... five years before The Next Day was released, I think pretty much most people considered Bowie retired and had come to terms with the fact that there may have not been any more new music from him. Five years after The Next Day and here we are knowing that there won't be anymore new music from him. The comeback feels like it lasted in the time it takes to blink your eyes, yet in Blackstar we're left with one of his best albums.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

He revisited Low live in full during the Heathen era, if I remember correctly.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link

He did

https://vimeo.com/171621712

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

10 years old this week. I wrote about it for BA, mostly reprinting my original review from 2013, with a few new thoughts:

Ten years ago, on March 8, 2013, David Bowie released his next-to-last studio album, his first in 10 years. Bowie had always been an artist beloved of critics because he spoke their language, and flattered them. He was (apparently; I never spoke to him) a great interview subject — he knew a lot about art and pop, and could combine the two in beguiling ways. But to beguile means to deceive, and the illusion often faded quickly. Bowie knew this, and would frequently disavow previous work when selling the new stuff. On The Next Day, though, he made the links to his past explicit, almost as if he needed to remind people who he was (or had once been). The cover was literally the cover of 1977’s “Heroes”, with that title crossed out and a white square with the new album’s title slapped across it.

(Personally, I think Phil Collins pulled a much better version of this trick when he reissued his albums Face Value, No Jacket Required, and …But Seriously in 2016 or so, with new cover art that duplicated the originals, but now featured the old-man version of himself. A shot of old-man Bowie re-creating the “Heroes” pose would have been cooler than this.)

Some of the lyrics on The Next Day were about Berlin, too, and/or about subjects he had tackled in the old days, which allowed reviewers to flex their knowledge of his late ’70s albums (admittedly, his best work). And naturally, some writers took the bait. Rolling Stone called it “a triumphant album…the comeback Bowie fans feared would never happen” while explicitly citing Low, “Heroes”, Lodger, and Scary Monsters. The Guardian, meanwhile, did a deep dive into the lyrics and the sounds, attempting to spot as many references and bits of arcana as possible, like one of those conspiracy theorists’ yarn-and-Post-It-note charts that take over entire rooms, but ultimately came to the conclusion that “for all the pointers it offers in that direction, The Next Day isn’t the equal of Bowie’s ’70s work.”

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

Unperson I enjoyed reading your review yesterday & it prompted me to give this one another listen, which I also enjoyed. No smart things to say about it, but I'll probably listen again today/this week.

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 March 2023 11:28 (one year ago) link

Thanks!

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 March 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link

I never liked the cover of The Next Day, exactly, but it's hard to think of another cover from a "legacy artist" from the last couple of decades that's so bracing, so much of a slap across of the face to nostalgia. "It's not that anymore, now it's this".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

I no longer think, per my original SPIN review, the album shouldn't have been recorded, but at the same time it's not a Bowie album I think much about.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

I never liked the cover of The Next Day, exactly, but it's hard to think of another cover from a "legacy artist" from the last couple of decades that's so bracing, so much of a slap across of the face to nostalgia. "It's not that anymore, now it's this".

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41jSMXYTU+L.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link

Yeah, but Neil Young is just lazy.

The Next Day has got no more or less reason to exist than Reality, with a few more good songs on it than the earlier record.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

Nah, Reality's the better album. Nothing embarrasses me like "Boss of Me" or "Valentine's Day."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

Now I want to listen to Heathen again.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link

I will say this about "Valentine's Day," John Cale did a pretty good version of it at one of those various Bowie tribute concerts.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

I like Valentine's Day.

dan selzer, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

Looks like the bonus tracks aren't streaming?

Shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0uw06jPCqY

dan selzer, Thursday, 9 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I like "Valentine's Day" too. I kind of like the video too - Bowie's still a good pantomime.

birdistheword, Thursday, 9 March 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link

I also like Valentine’s Day. Feel you could comfortably snip tracks 8-12 and have a much much better album though.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Friday, 10 March 2023 00:59 (one year ago) link

Would be on the short side but still an album (I think somewhere between 33 or 34 minutes)

birdistheword, Friday, 10 March 2023 01:04 (one year ago) link

Definitely too long and uneven, but I think the album is OK, albeit nothing special. Blackstar is special and I could hear that even in the few days I had listening to it before his death changed its meaning.

I think the problem with The Next Day is that he'd been so long out of the game that he was probably worried whether he could pull it off, and so he consciously made a 'Bowie album', in the neoclassical rock mode of Heathen and Reality. It's of a piece with those two (although not as good as Heathen), whereas Blackstar is a new direction right at the end.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 10 March 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link

It's definitely another album that tries to reconsolidate his strengths rather than breaking new ground, but I thought it was better than Heathen and Reality. Those previous two weren't bad albums, but they weren't all that consistent either and I remember thinking they were overhyped. (Jim DeRogatis, who was always a bit skeptical of Bowie, gushed on the radio over Reality, saying "I never thought I'd recommend a Bowie album again.") I was very skeptical and dismissed the lead-up to The Next Day as more marketing hype, but to my surprise I enjoyed it quite a bit and I didn't think anything was terrible on it either - it was the first Bowie album since you-know-what where I didn't have to skip anything, I was fine letting the lesser parts play through. I thought that was the best I could ever hope for from Bowie, but Blackstar proved me wrong, and the weekend before he died, I played the shit out of it. It really sent my hopes though the roof, like we'd be getting more great albums going forward.

birdistheword, Friday, 10 March 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link

I thought it was better than Heathen and Reality. Those previous two weren't bad albums, but they weren't all that consistent either and I remember thinking they were overhyped

The Next Day for me

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link

I think it's fascinating that it ends with "Heat" which really does point the way to "Blackstar".

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 10 March 2023 04:16 (one year ago) link


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