yesss, found the track-by-track breakdown that ?uestlove did back in the day on okayplayer: http://web.archive.org/web/19991114212019/http://www.okayplayer.com/reviews.htm
basically it goes to show that you can't trust the credits.
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― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
there are def some songs on voodoo where the drums sound programmed rather than live
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Stevie Wonder also did ALL INSTRUMENTS BY when he plays "just" keybs, drums, and harmonics (obv okay on "Higher Ground").
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
"he's still relevant while being able to ignore current pop trends, and is like the last remaining symbol of classicist r&b chops, but still."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpXWgLcQPMc
― scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
good call
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
feel pretty stupid forgetting him
stevie played almost everything on his eivets rednow instrumental album. not, like, the string and horn sections though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bhDn6i7bdE
― scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 4, 2013 12:31 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Those are the only instruments on "Higher Ground" tho. Synth bass + clavinets.
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
that's what he was saying, it's a truthful statement on that song, but not the ones w/ horn sections
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
legit credits on "Living For the City" too.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
oh ok, i gotcha
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
van halen on beat it = how I figure a lot of producers think of guitar in pop/hip hop songs. it is the easiest, most direct way of satisfying the "rock" ingredient in a pop song recipe. imo learning how to "cross over" is the first chapter in making popular music now, as opposed to, say, anything other than the first chapter, as it might have been prior to MJ (or prince)
― Dominique, Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is OTM. Every "pop" act (and most hip hop acts) I've seen perform on TV (SNL, some talk show, whatever) has the requisite pseudo-Hendrix guitarist in their band, usually stepping forward for three or four seconds of high-gain whammy bar wankery.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 4 January 2013 14:25 (7 hours ago) Permalink
This is pretty much exaclty what I meant by "guitarness"
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean Lil Wayne has been "playing guitar" on stage for like 6 years now
he's still doing it????
― mahatma lambert (crüt), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah at least Madonna has mastered a punkish rhythm guitar amateurishness.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
I have old demos of Madonna's NYC days in the 80s. She always had that amateurishness of her guitar playing. She was smart to have a more talented guitarist beside her.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 January 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
prob more likely sloppy crediting than that. also didn't ?uest supposedly take a bunch of dilla beats and re-play them live for that album? don't think the credits reflect that either.
― some dude, Friday, January 4, 2013 12:28 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This would explain why the "drums" don't sound like drums on that album. I hope the Dilla estate got some money for that one.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 January 2013 01:33 (eleven years ago) link