HAIM

and here's haim's new single -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01374g9

just listened to "Don't Save Me" for the first time and I really, really, REALLY love the lead singer's voice

the song itself is a little on the whatever side

she ENUNCIATES very well

for reasons I can't quite explain they remind me a bit of Lone Justice.

my first reaction while listening was "I wonder if I'd be able to deal with Lana Del Rey's songs if Danielle Haim was singing them instead" and then I remembered that I've hated every iteration of "Video Games" that I've heard

xp Going out on a limb is pretty much the polar opposite of what the BBC poll is about.

I love what I've heard so far - Forever was one of my singles of the year - and I hope they don't botch the album because ones-to-watch culture has become so overheated in recent years that it practically guarantees backlashes.

I think Haim are probably better at nailing a certain bittersweet rushiness that you get in that kind of 80s teen movie pop than a lot of acts who are striving for that sound. I listened to the Chairlift album a bit last year and couldn't connect with it at all.

unsurprisingly they sound great when they harmonize together (there's a whole interesting sideline thing about genetics and how people who are related tend to have naturally-matching vibratos that ties into why so many family-based singing groups sound awesome together)

posted this already at the start but its a cracker so..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsJ1MFpKxQ

I feel a bit sorry for Chairlift. I Belong In Your Arms is one of those great recent pop songs, like Zero/Heads Will Roll, which feels like it should have been Top 10 but didn't get anywhere near the charts because radio wasn't interested. I think Haim are going to benefit from a more open-minded mood at Radio 1. Strictly UK perspective of course - I don't understand how US radio works.

that's okay, neither do we

I don't understand how US radio works.

It doesn't.

http://www.svfreya.ca/photos/fiji3/radio_fix.jpg

I can't let go of this absurd, meritocratic, utopian ideal - which never existed - of radio programmers hearing a really good catchy song and playlisting it without worrying about where it fits in. It's the poptimist Brigadoon.

Has anyone won/appeared high up on the Sound Of... poll and NOT found themselves immediately playlisted on Radio 1? That'd be like the BBC admitting they don't have faith in their own poll.

Pretty sure 'Zero' made the R1 playlist as well.

recently i had to spend about 5-6 hours in one day listening to radio 1 and it was an entirely dreadful experience. in that entire time ONE song i enjoyed was played (kelly clarkson's "stronger", i nearly wept with gratitude) but even the shit songs were a relief because it meant the intolerable presenters shut the fuck up briefly

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist/

^^^ I mean this basically looks like a mashup of things that have been on the 6music playlist for ages, things that have been on the 1xtra playlist for ages and yr obvious massive pop acts that go straight on there anyway. I'm not really seeing anything different to how it's been for years.

good fucking god, that playlist

None of the Top 5 are currently on the playlist - only Peace and Tom Odell from the longlist. Although Everything Everything, alt-J and Foals are all on the A-list, which surprised me. I don't have an archive of old playlists to compare but I'm sure it's opened up recently.

I'm not really viewing the presence of those three bands as opening up, they're all reasonably well established acts at this point and you'd have seen, I dunno, Friendly Fires or Noah & The Whale or whoever on the R1 list in the recent past. It looks like box-ticking rather than open-mindedness really.

I'm feeling optimistic

haim have been getting play on radio 1 for ages, just not the daytime shows

same with laura mvula (first played by zane lowe, of all people), angel haze and pretty much everybody else really

that said the daytime playlist is particularly dire at the moment

Non-daytime carries about as much weight as 6Music though - it has no power to make a hit, unlike the playlist. Of course you'd expect Zane Lowe or Annie Mac to be playing all kinds of underground stuff.

.... which then gets nominated in lists like this, then maybe wins, then gets playlisted...

mm yeah Foals, Alt J, Everything, Everything etc are all bands that would have been on the B list a year or so ago i think.
also its interesting to see how Grimmy's recent playlist has full of stuff like Alt J, Foals, Biffy Clyro, Fenech-Soler, HAIM, MIA amongst the more obvious stuff
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p23k9

I think the Moyles/Grimshaw transition is the main reason to be optimistic. Unlike Moyles he actually likes music.

how are those NOT obvious stuff

xp

Unlike Moyles he actually likes music

sadly, the kind of music he likes is wank

Alt-J have just won a Mercury Prize. HAIM have just won this poll. Foals are an established band with a big following on their third album. MIA is MIA. Biffy Clyro are (still) huge in this country - it isn't really a surprise to see any of them playlisted on daytime R1.

Fenech-Soler is a bit of curveball admittedly.

I wish I had access to A-lists from 2009-2010 to tell you why you're wrong.

this idea that R1 daytime has some kind of unfulfilled potential as the place to spring totally unplayed, unknown bands on the wider public, breaking them "from scratch" is bizarre to me. has it ever worked like that? why would it? why should it? there are all sorts of minor leagues that new acts can get some attention in. R1 specialist shows, 6, uh... i mean people like to talk about the glory days of john peel, hey anybody could send in a tape and it might get played, but that was 10pm-midnight. today there's an entire franchise of BBC regional programming that filters those tapes up to six national shows that air them every week.

here's a Moyles show from September 2012 the first 7 tracks are 'his' show the rest is the Golden Hour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01m348b

that's purely at random.

Wed 7th October 2009 - A List

Biffy Clyro - The Captain

Alexandra Burke featuring Flo Rida - Bad Boys

Chipmunk - Oopsy Daisy

Cobra Starship featuring Leighton Meester - Good Girls Go Bad

Cheryl Cole - Fight For This Love

Taio Cruz - Break Your Heart

Editors - Papillon

Green Day - East Jesus Nowhere

Jay-Z featuring Alicia Keys - Empire State Of Mind

Lostprophets - It’s Not The End Of The World But I Can See It From Here

Medina - You And I

Muse - Uprising

Paramore - Ignorance

The Saturdays - Forever Is Over

Jay Sean featuring Lil Wayne - Down

Jordin Sparks - S.O.S (Let The Music Play)

Tinchy Stryder - You’re Not Alone

The Temper Trap - Sweet Disposition

Robbie Williams - Bodies

i dunno whether daytime R1 could or should be anything other than what it is, i'm just saying that what it is right now, since as long as i can remember and probably in the foreseeable future, has been absolutely dire and god help me if i ever put myself through it again

guess you don't like "the hits", lex

at least not the ones aimed for a younger audience

it's okay, it happens to everyone

by the way it's too bad you weren't listening this week - the playlist has been banished since new year's day! normal services to resume, though

8th September 2010 - A List

Katy B - Katy On A Mission
Biffy Clyro - God and Satan
Danny Byrd - Ill Behaviour
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
Example - Last Ones Standing
Brandon Flowers - Crossfire
Alex Gaudino - I'm In Love (I Wanna Do It)
Ke$ha - Take It Off
Labrinth - Let The Sun Shine
Linkin Park - The Catalyst
McFly - Party Girl
Pendulum - The Island
Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
Mark Ronson and The Business Intl - The Bike Song
The Script - For The First Time
Tinie Tempah - Written In The Stars (feat. Eric Turner)
The Wombats - Tokyo (Vampires and Wolves)
The xx - Islands
You Me At Six - Stay With Me

I mean the balance looks pretty much the same to me.

I think the Moyles/Grimshaw transition is the main reason to be optimistic. Unlike Moyles he actually likes music.

This is probably true though - how much freedom do R1 Breakfast Show hosts get in playing personal faves these days? Never got the sense that Moyles was ever particularly interested in championing music of any kind, in the way that even someone like Chris Evans was (NB the music he was championing was mostly terrible but hey).

how much freedom do R1 Breakfast Show hosts get in playing personal faves these days?

very little, but they and their producers do have a choice in how MUCH music to play vs just gabbing around - grimshaw currently plays almost twice the number of tracks that moyles did - and they have a choice in what they talk about (could be about reality shows, could be about music), and they have a choice about what guests to book (i.e. reality show contestants vs musicians)

those are the only two categories of subject matter in the entire world, by the way, i'm pretty sure

xp Of course it's not exactly a revolution but the pendulum swings back and forth, especially when there are big staff changes. A while back, possibly in an understandable spirit of post-landfill detox, Everything Everything or their equivalent wouldn't have been on the A-list, and Nick Grimshaw is clearly a pro-new music choice. It seems daft to pretend that it's the same as it ever was - every sector of the music industry goes through different phases.

Tracer, if you think I'm saying daytime Radio 1 should be breaking completely unknown bands then sorry, I haven't explained myself very clearly. Obviously the specialist shows are the conduit.

(NB the music he was championing was mostly terrible but hey)

Well you can say what you want but it won't change my mind...

haha dorian i think i got so worked up that i missed that part where you admitted that idea was the poptimist brigadoon

surprised to find that its pronounced 'Hyem' and not 'Hame' courtesy of this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKHwDHaVv9w

it's "hime"

although on front row yesterday the presenter did repeatedly say it as "HI-yem" and was audibly uncomfortable every time she did

Amy Schumer did a standup set.

I hope all these dorks get paid in crypto.

I wasn't being literal, just hilarious to see a crowd that makes a latter day Yes show crowd seem diverse by comparison

they are born rich ppl this is expected

I remember when selling out became cool, then this

Wouldn't it be funny if people like Haim and LCD soundsystem invited tech bros and wealthy dictators to perform at their private parties?

Like, beyoncé and Jay Z hiring Mark Zuckerberg to appear at their party?

murphy did that ash-ra rip off for nike (it sucked) like 20 years ago dude has always faked the funk

nah that was good, but he has always been a sell out

Has he sold out, or bought in?

He’s losing his edge

To the techbros

And the finance bros

And they actually pay really, really nice.

https://imgur.com/oz4dcLK

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I was there in 2017, when 10,000 Crptopunks were minted on the Etherium Blockchain

Why did Dall-E turn him into a hedgehog?

damn their debut album came out ten years ago

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