thread of miguel

eh hindsight is 20/20, there was no way of predicting just how much longevity "Adorn" would have (last week it passed Mary J's "Be Without You" as the longest-lasting #1 on R&B radio in decades) xpost

"Drinks" is fine w/ Mig's little rap in there, no need for an MC imo

i don't mind it and i'm sure whichever rapper they'd choose would be super boring but it just seemed like an obvious move to give the album one last kick in the ass... but i was thinking, like, 6-8 months down the line. so i'm probably wrong.

it'd be waste if one of the rockier tracks wasn't a single, those are the ones that really leap out as something special imo

disappointed that "do you..." flopped. disappointed in the public for being so wrong, that is

"how many drinks" is fine but also kinda ignorable imo

don't think our beloved "Arch n Point" has a chance on R&B radio.

i meant "don't look back" or "use me"

but honestly if radio can't get with "do you..." then i can't get with radio

i don't wanna jump the gun on calling "Do You" a flop -- i'm still pretty certain that whenever "Adorn" finally drops out of heavy rotation radio programmers will just plug in whatever Miguel song the label is pushing, i'm just wondering if that will definitely be it.

i hear "Do You" pretty regularly, it just hasn't hit that point where i know i'm gonna hear it when i get in the car

"how many drinks" is so underrated as a potential single imo

also "adorn" is just FINALLY getting spin in edmonton wtffff

yeah "How Many" is kind of dead in the middle if i was ranking the album, not amazing but pretty solid, sounded good on the radio when i heard it today.

"how many drinks" is also the only one which sounds kinda...skeevy in isolation

like on the album it's offset by the persona miguel builds up elsewhere but i kind of don't want him represented on radio by a song about getting girls drunk enough to go home with him

don't think our beloved "Arch n Point" has a chance on R&B radio.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:02 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think it does fwiw

"how many drinks" is also the only one which sounds kinda...skeevy in isolation

like on the album it's offset by the persona miguel builds up elsewhere but i kind of don't want him represented on radio by a song about getting girls drunk enough to go home with him

― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because "two or three" is going to get most girls drunk? it's not like miggy is hoping "six or seven"

that's not really the point is it

i dunno i feel it's an important distinction, the drinks are also besides the point, it's more a Let's Be Adults And Just Embrace Our Carnal Urges Because We're Consenting Adults song rather than specifically about getting a girl drunk enough to take home...

this is why i said "in isolation" - in album context it's a lot easier to take the "let's quit playing these stupid gender role games and cut thru the bullshit" interpretation but by itself that's not really made explicit enough (only barely, really)

i'll accept that

anyway the point is i don't want it as the single, i want a) "do you..." to first smash even harder than "adorn" because it's a million times better, b) "use me" or "don't look back" as the next single c) actually i think "where's the fun in forever?" could work!

so many good songs on the album wouldn't necessarily work on urban radio, but i'd be happy with his label running with the "alt R&B" thing and working one of those more guitar-driven songs on triple A radio

lex i think any song whose repeated, shining, carefree, ebullient moment is "do you like drugs" is going to have a tough time on radio stations whose audience is largely teenagers..! i.e. R1, and i don't see 2 or 6 going for it, though in an ideal world 6 would be an ideal home for it

i like that song a lot, the music's got a kind of huey lewis vibe sometimes (in a good way) (come to think of it, that's another guy who compared the object of his attraction to controlled substances!)

choice fm should become the station that plays stuff like that, and all the explicit versions of everything - there's no legal watershed in uk radio iirc

migarc pimentloi

haha huey lewis

As pleasant as they are, "How Many Drinks" and "Where's the Fun in Forever" are, if not quite the weakest songs on the album, at least the most "ordinary." Like if you'd played them for me 12 months ago and said they tracks from the next Miguel album I'd have been like "oh, of course" rather than "this is amazing" or even just "huh, this is an interesting direction." Being the only two tracks that were completely unfamiliar when I heard the album in full, they kinda of skewed my initial reaction to it for the worse. Remember when I stupidly poopooed Kaleidoscope Dream off one listen?

Not that I disliked the album initially, but I was kind of disappointed in the short term.

the fact that a lot of the songs don't reveal their charms immediately has been one of the album's biggest strengths for me, that it didn't sound its absolute best back in October

"Candles in the Sun" still the only meh song but an improvement on its earlier incarnation.

'how many drinks' def sounds like a natural fit for the radio, I don't expect him to continue keeping on blowing the lid off of the radio

somehow packaging all of these songs together enhanced them all greatly in a way i can't exactly explain - it's partly the sequencing but only partly. it's a bit like the electrik red situation - at least 4-5 of the songs on their album were floating around pre-release and everyone was just like "oh these are kinda decent", not "THIS WILL BE THE BEST THING EVER", but then suddenly hearing the album qua album made everything slot into place

tbh I came into this album fully expecting it to be the best thing ever

it almost is

I was already placing the collective Art Dealer Chic ep's as my #1 album if this album had been just okay.

i do not get this record

do you like drugs?

"how many drinks?" has a slight feminist bent to it that is dope but I doubt many ppl would pick up on it on the radio

drugs are okay i guess

to me this record feels more 'nice guys of okcupid' than it does 'feminist' but i don't know

mainly i think i just hate the mix though

lol what

we do not get your posts

drugs are okay i guess

thanks!

I haven't listened to this yet but

http://soundcloud.com/rawnenbambi/adornthesextape

forgot to post that a few days ago I was in a supermarket as it was closing, adorn came on and one of the guys behind the deli kept on going WHAAAP! WHAAAP! it was p awesome

Adorn on Jay Leno last night
http://www.spin.com/articles/miguel-adorn-jay-leno-tonight-show-video
His guitarist <3

dope

haha awesome WHAAAP! story

I haven't listened to this yet but

http://soundcloud.com/rawnenbambi/adornthesextape

― hemioblock (The Reverend), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did anybody dl this before the limit blew out

nm I didnt dig it that much

Got my tickets to see him this morning. Excited.

wait, it's some guy who is not miguel singing, fuck this