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this ever get posted here?

http://thequietus.com/articles/03775-the-great-ecstasy-of-the-sculptor-popol-vuh

♨ (am0n), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

good article

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah I missed that before. Especially great paragraph starting with 'Having been taught composition...'

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link

i c/ped like three different paragraphs before i decided to go with a simple "good article" because i was getting too excited

cult-like devotion: activated

Popol Vuh, then, is uneasy listening, but like all the best mood music it envelops you in its own sound world, cocooning the listener in waves of sound. Fricke rarely played live and submitted to few interviews but inspired a kind of cult-like devotions amongst his fans. One of his very last projects was an audio-visual installation based around the myth of Orpheus - perhaps the 'cult' musician par excellence, of whom it was claimed his music could coax the trees and rocks into dance. He referred to the acoustically designed chambers of the installation as "good rooms", explaining in a contemporary interview, "We hear so much that we don't hear anything." Now, as music becomes increasingly the atomised personal soundtrack to every mundane activity, the music and ideas of a soundtrack composer for whom music was never background music, and always inseparable from a community of the faithful, from site and from ritual, may prove to be a much needed corrective, or cleansing purgative.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

We hear so much that we don't hear anything

This strikes so painfully close to home for me right now. I am actually aiming to change this in my life starting today.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

it's definitely hibernation time
also i think i read that article before when i was trying to find info about those PV listening parties in the church

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

I only really discovered PV last year, while watching Nosferatu. I was struck by the music and promptly bought the Herzog soundtrack box counting on all of it being as good. At the same time I made a resolution to watch more Herzog movies. The box is awesome and gets played regularly - everything except Fitzcarraldo (although I love the movie the opera stuff on the soundtrack annoys me).

More recently, I bought Affenstunde. I like that one too. Great, moody stuff, all of it. Equally well-suited to deep listening or as background while reading.

Doctor Flange, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Florian Fricke in fact shares with the purveyors of mood music a great many concerns: the exotic fascination with faraway lands of Martin Denny, Les Baxter and the 101 Strings; the massed voices and Gregorian influence of Ray Conniff and the Swingle Singers; the use of found sounds and field recordings of Frank Clacksfield; the space-age sounds of Gershon Kingsley; the mysticism and promised healing properties of Andreas Wollenscheider's New Age music.

ok but why do i find popol vuh endlessly absorbing and yet am bored senseless by everyone else mentioned above

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 3 January 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

Because no sane person would choose to eat a bowl full of flour or a handful of butter when there's a fresh flaky delicious croissant right there on the table?

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

ok but why do i find popol vuh endlessly absorbing and yet am bored senseless by everyone else mentioned above

― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:58 AM

theres a kitsch element to a lot of those thats more upfront so u have to be willing to put up with that (i happen to like martin denny, les baxter, ray conniff) whereas popol vuh doesn't wear the exotica/new ageness on their sleeve as much

♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

I thought they were weird comparisons too, but i guess it's because people think of PV as "mood music" -- I'm not sure I do, really, nor could I use any of their albums as background music while reading. I'd be too distracted.

I do recommend (as I have said what seems like 1000x) listening to PV while walking through a plant conservatory or museum (esp if it has a lot of dioramas) or aquarium or other indoors/outdoors sort of place.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

now i want a croissant

♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Are Popol Vuh really the croissant of music?

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

in den garten croissant.
but yeah as LL sez, being out and about with the vuh really does work -- the first time i "fell" for popol vuh outside of herzog's films was walking around government center in boston (with a walkman!) listening to a PV comp a friend had made for me. i think i was christmas shopping.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

It's the kitsch factor that puts me off that stuff. I have listened to a couple Vangelis albums lately so I'm not totally immune. Croissants are too buttery for my tender tummy :(

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

You were rocking non stop at a government center? In Boston?xpost

Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

had to make those secretaries feel better

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

I've never used that comparison before (was just thinking about flour and butter mostly), but croissants are pretty transcendent so I guess I'll stick with it. For me, a delicious flaky croissant is a truly sublime baked good.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

I like the comparison the more I think about it--croissants truly are transcendent--but the problem is now my brain wants to compare other bands to baked goods (specifically wondering who would be the cheese danish) and that's just a terrible idea.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

listening to Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte this morning btw. not one i reach for often because of its more rock nature, but it is sounding croissantastic right now. is that Gila album good? i've never heard it.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, it is. I do prefer the "rock" PV albums to the soundtracks and synth epics, though.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i think i'm coming around on the more rock stuff more and more.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

the end of Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte's title track kinda sounds like the Dead.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte is my favorite Popol Vuh. LOVE that album!

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

And I hope it never gets remastered because I love that muddy sound, whether intentional or not. :)

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

deplorable lack of PV on Spotify, but at least they have Tantric Songs, which I haven't heard elsewhere

Brad C., Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

xp - oh god me too
and the cover is one of my favorite album covers of all time

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link

it is funny, whenever i start playing popol vuh record, i think, "man, they should have recorded this better," but by the end of it, i do not think that at all. <3 the mud!

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

damn it, the only Gila album I can find on mog

https://search.mog.com/v2/albums/38135579/image.jpeg?size=800

it's probably pretty good tho, right?

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

LT-LN is not as muddy on the Spalax CD as it is on the SPV CD.

I like Herz aus Glas a wee bit more than LT-LN if truth be told. It's kind of perfect. LT-LN doesn't quite live up to 'Grosse Krieger' IMO.

The Gila album (Wounded Knee, not the one above) is definitely worth owning. It's not going to overhaul your world but it's good.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

still don't have this oop pv album but someone put the whole thing on yootoob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFc1Uon-w

♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

I like Herz aus Glas a wee bit more than LT-LN if truth be told. It's kind of perfect. LT-LN doesn't quite live up to 'Grosse Krieger' IMO.

I've never been able to decide which one I like better. Every time I think it's one, the other one comes along and ~whoa~

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

I think I consider my 2nd fave PV album to be Bruder des Schattens aka the alternate version of Nosferatu. When I want innigkeit piano chamber Vuh. LT-LN coming in a close 3rd.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

still think this is the high point of their rock side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQTOX8iokM

♨ (am0n), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

See what I want is a whole album of track 1 of Einsjager... that's pure guitar bliss right there

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^^

silver pozole (clouds), Friday, 4 January 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

All my student neighbors are still gone for the break, so the other night I was playing Bruder des Schattens, Aguirre, and Das Hohelied Salomons really loud.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

You know how to live!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

I really like their rockin' stuff; it has this regal majestic flavor to it that is irresistible.

2am chopped top (brimstead), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

I think right now Hosianna Mantra and Seligpreisung are my favorite Popol Vuh records. I've been listening to them on the 45 minute drive to work as the sun is coming up and Oklahoma is frozen, it's nice.

JacobSanders, Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link

^^ that sounds wonderful

two things:

* i have some croissants in the oven (just the rise-overnight kind, nothing fancy) and they smell divine.
* there's a goofy women's dance party thing that i dj'ed yesterday, and we have to do a warm-up and cool-down song and i chose "sing, for song drives away the wolves" as my cool down song -- i looked around the hot hot hot dance studio and there was stretching, meditating, yoga, eyes closed, eyes open. perfect and totally heavenly.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

every time I see this thread I think of Kevin Federline's "Popozao"

frogbs, Monday, 14 January 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

you know, in Portuguese, it means bring your ass, on the floor and move it real fast

frogbs, Monday, 14 January 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

haha
i shoulda put that on my dance mix

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

u should use http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Yoga/release/799452

♨ (am0n), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

yknow, i don't have that one!
i knew i bumped this thread for a reason.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

pv is gonna help this apartment get clean

#YOLO magic orchestra (clouds), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

Yoga's not an official release, Fricke disowned it... still worth a listen.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

Not really Popol Vuh though

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

the cover art for In Den Garten Pharaohs always astounds me - the design looks so modern, like it's from a 2008 reissue

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link


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