Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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(I never saw it coming)

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

woah

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom E on 'Can You Forgive Her' is better:

“Can You Forgive Her?” – A quick reminder, then: the song is about a gay man, closeted even to himself, whose female lover has guessed the truth about him. The song’s invisible narrator is dragging him back through his past, forcing him to confront his feelings – and his loathing for her and himself – for the first time. Now I know it is incredibly cheesy to talk about ‘adult subjects’ getting into the Top 10 but unlike shitty ooh-its-about-heroin songs like “Perfect Day” this actually is groundbreaking, adult, and brilliantly done: a conflicted psychodrama on a par with the greatest soul music. And the music is magnificent. Lyrical intelligence isn’t a prerequisite for great pop, duh, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore it when it turns up, and nothing like this turned up in the charts again until “Ms Jackson”.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Juicy only at 35? Behind the New fucking Radicals? I don't think I'm going to understand the top 10 at all.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

what's the over/under on pulp songs in the top ten? cuz i'll take the over (easy)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i can only really see two pulp songs in the top ten... but i would have guessed that fucking juicy was going to be in the top 20, so i have no clue

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"Something Changed" won't make the top 10 (will it make the chart at all?). I think "Disco 2000" will just miss at ~#12 or #13.

"Common People" will be #1, of course.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the Pet Shop Boys/Pulp/St Etienne contingent has skewed this poll dramatically.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

... for the better.

Actually, it depends on what you mean by "skewed" because they're placing a lot of songs but they're placing lower because of split voting.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

#32

PULP - "Disco 2000" (440 points, 24 votes, 1 first place vote)

http://coverart.last.fm/300x300/4447.jpg

"when the '99-'00, changeover happened I put on Prince "1999" and then followed up with "Disco 2000" for a large party of friends in CA and, while none of them knew it, due to it's being so yearny and pounding and DISCO people were on the verge of tears. it rulez."
-- Spencer Chow

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I THINK THEY GOT YA NUMBER!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i am sad. disco 2000 really should be higher.

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

#30 (tie)

THE FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - "Papua New Guinea" (441 points, 25 votes)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001D7Q.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

" "Papua New Guinea" stands up as a gorgeous pop record, whether it would work on a dancefloor (or in a chill out room) these days I neither know nor care."
-- Tico Tico

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

am I the only person who doesn't have an opinion as to what a group poll should be?

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Is the greatness of "Common People" something you need to be English to understand? I'm serious - I like it and its album OK but I wonder if maybe the scenario attacked in the song is something that speaks to a particular English experience. To me, it's a nice catchy song but I don't really relate to the statement or anything.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm American, think most britpop is crap but put "Common People" in my top 5. Class war, man. "Born To Run" with a point.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

People slum in america too!

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

xp Born to Run doesn't have a "point"?!

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"common people" seems like a pretty universal statement to me.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "Disco 2000" will just miss at ~#12 or #13.
Whoa, it's like the karma gods had it in for me ... EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T BECAUSE 'PAPUA NEW GUINEA' IS #30!!

How cool is that?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

my list is batting 12/30 so far, with several spots left to go.

though i'm 100% positive that my #1 (Hit Parade w/ Cath Carroll - "Autobiography") won't place. And I'm having strong doubts about Right Said Fred, 2 Bad Mice and Blur's "No Distance"

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Personally, I think Pulp wholly deserves all their appearances on the singles list (except maybe "This Is Hardcore," which strikes as a bit too silly sometimes). ALBUM list on the other hand...

OK "Born To Run" minus the bad poetry. "Common People" has grandeur without being grandiose.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I will defend "Born to Run"'s quoteunquote 'bad poetry' to the death.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i think that common people should resonate with a certain community in any western type democracy because we all have similar groups of people that are the working class who may feel the way 'common people' feels.

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

born to run will be at number one on my 70's poll list when we get around to it. maybe i just like that kind of song or maybe i "feel" that kind of song.

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

8/30 so far...I voted for Right Said Fred at no. 5, rentboy, though as I said I would have preferred Deeply, Dippy.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

#30 (tie)

BRITNEY SPEARS - "Baby One More Time" (441 points, 27 votes, 1 first place vote)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JCWV.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

"'Baby One More Time' is one of the very best pop tunes of the 1990ies. the impeccably pre-horny max martin production, the hookline, britney's longing vibrato voice, everything is perfect here. this song shits on everything she's made since..."
-- Jay Kid

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

"This is Hardcore" ... silly? Pornography = apocolypse, man! It doesn't get less silly than that.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, that's dishearteningly low...

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

sign o the times

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

born to run will be at number one on my 70's poll list when we get around to it.

the fgth remake would certainly show up in my 80s list - i MUCHLY prefer it to the original

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

The 30's are full of twists and surprises ... IIRC, the 30's in the 00's featured more of the same.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

... in the 00's poll ...

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

What a bizarre tie.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe i shouldnt complain, i have 13/30 in and i would be absolutely surprised if the rest of my top ten doesnt get in.

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

hmm, i actually wrote a comment for the New Radicals, wonder if my votes even got tabbed then.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

also, i am sure that i like the thirties better than i will like the top 10

― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I have 5/30 and my hopes of anything other than Aaliyah/Beltram/Geto Boys making it are slim to none.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

arghh, trust, peopl

your votes got tabbed, I'm at work and don't have much time to post/search for results.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i had "common people" on my singles ballot too, it's a GREAT song, and pulp were a GREAT band, but their frequency on this list is more about how for alot of brits and anglophiles 'the 90s = britpop' and pulp are the one act you don't have to be embarrassed about liking, do this poll in 97 and "country house" and be here now both rank (but "common people" is still #1)(even at the time everyone knew pulp were far and away the best).

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I have 7/30, which is about 5 more than I expected at this point.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

search for comments, that is. didn't get many, it's easier to search through ILX than my yahoo inbox

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought their frequency was becuz Pulp singles are a hell of a lot better than Oasis and Blur singles

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

'Papua New Guinea' seemed to have an incredible reverence about it long before the myriad of remixed and reinterpreted chapters and appendices (the Massey and Weatherall mixes from the original Jumpin' & Pumpin' single release are pretty wondrous, but then everything from that edition (inc. the 'Journey To Pyramid' and 'Short Dub' versions) is really). It's haunting Dead Can Dance echo is an illuminated, magnified dagger that cuts cold straight to the bone, while the breaks tumble and grind, unrepentant despite the extraordinary sensation of sorrow that engulfs the track (the flatline blip, the falsetto soul voice, a bassline that starts low and just takes one solitary step even lower) - extraordinary in how the sadness bursts into an unstoppable euphoria every time.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Was "This Is A Low" a single?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

No.
"Parklife" (the single) was the only song off the album of the same name to be nominated.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

re: PapuaNewGuinea - nice one stevem... i'll forever remember the first time i FELT that b-line in my chest. the deejay looped it on the fly and just made it keep going "boomp boomp ba boomp boomp" until the place was literally in a frenzy

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

well yeah miccio, my point exactly. for some of us though there was music in the nineties other than pulp, blur, and oasis. pulp singles are the 'gay marriage' of the 90s ilx singles poll.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

re: This Is A Low

one of the three tracks I noted as being fretfully absent

"Missing:
Primal Scream - Higher Than The Sun
Blur - This is a low
Opus III - It's A Fine Day"

― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Opus III - It's A Fine Day"
We had "Halcyon" instead :)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

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