an attempt at a general "What are you currently digging re. classical music" thread

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you like mahler but you can't get down w/bruckner? idgi tbh

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 29 December 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

there's no telling with people.

scott seward, Saturday, 29 December 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

mahler gives me more to hold on to. i'm very fragile. i need a helping hand every now and then.

scott seward, Saturday, 29 December 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

makes sense to me. they are often mentioned side by side and I get why, but they use the same basic building blocks for vastly different purposes. Mahler, like Debussy, is all about the state of interruption, unwanted polymorphism, the perverse flow of mind. Bruckner comes from the baroque concept of huge unbroken blocks of one specific affect. I actually think that based on just the feelings I get from their music Bruckner and Dvorak are closer kin.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 29 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

love dvorak. who knows what my problem is. i'm listening to more haydn right now. cuz i'm your grandma. though i was thinking of putting this on and i don't know if your grandma would like it. so loud.

http://www.audiophileusa.com/covers400water/20645.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 29 December 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

which dvorák do u recommend jon

the memoirs of gaydrian (clouds), Saturday, 29 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

I think all the symphonies from 5 onward are amazing. See if you can listen to #9 without prejudice, I know that's hard with warhorses but it deserves it. They are very sensitive to their interpreters-- you gotta have a performance with the right balance of creaminess and sting. Sticking to the Supraphon label is not a bad idea.

And the four late tone poems based on macabre czech fairy tales (The Noon Witch, The Golden Spinning Wheel, The Water Goblin and... the other one...)

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 29 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

Does the download link for Dillon's Viridas on this page work?
http://5-against-4.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/james-dillon-nine-rivers-world-premiere_31.html

I got #1 and 2 before it no problem. Quite possibly I am doing something dumb.

▶ Play all samples (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 29 December 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Max Richter's recomposition of The Four Seasons from this year is all Minimalist Baroque pastiche (ala early Nyman), deriving most of its entertainment from playing with expectations. Not difficult listening by any means, and I expect it'll be ubiquitous in documentary soundtracks for some while.

The whole piece is presently on YouTube (here's a playlist), and here's a pleasant video sampler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MYmjJjMnb8

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Saturday, 29 December 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link

Nevermind re: the Dillon download, it worked this time (even though I did everything the same as before?)

▶ Play all samples (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

damn file sharing services what are we payin' em for?! >:[

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

i've gone back to s1sk for my classical needs but even that's not good enough

the memoirs of gaydrian (clouds), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

there was a w h a t . cd freeleech a few days ago which i managed to miss completely

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link

re: Dvorak I rep hard for Rusalka. Just lovely.

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

I have pretty much the same thing with Bruckner. Apparently Brian Eno has been banging his head against that wall his whole life too, so we're in good comapny.

Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Sunday, 30 December 2012 07:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, comapny.

Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Sunday, 30 December 2012 07:06 (eleven years ago) link

to me the Bruckner to start with is Te Deum. I get pretty caught up in both his bio & his piety though, there's almost a celebrity/idol/tragic figure aspect to him. he's a little creepy! but anyway yeah - I think the religious/spiritual/personal-struggle aspect of Bruckner is a big part of why I'm drawn to him. Which is why again Celibidache is really worth checking out, I think his Bruckner is really romantic.

man I'm gonna listen to some more of that right now

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 30 December 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

Bachfest on WKCR right now and very nice it is too. Heard a few cantatas plus Segovia playing Partita no. 2. this morn at 4am.

Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Sunday, 30 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yep. I turned that on by accident yesterday afternoon. Within the Bachfest was also a celebration of Pablo Casals birthday.

Albee Thousand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

"Baroque and Roll: Townshend on Purcell

The Who guitarist and songwriter Pete Townshend talks about the band's career and reveals the influence on his songwriting of Baroque composer Henry Purcell.

When Pete was a struggling 20-year-old musician he was turned on to Purcell by his manager, Kit Lambert. It was Kit's recommendation of Purcell's Gordian Knot Untied that struck the loudest chord with Pete, awakening him to a lineage in English music that seemed strangely familiar. Immersing himself in the music, he soon set about writing The Who's first album.

Pete reveals how he drew on Purcell's dramatic genius for his most intriguing compositions. From his first mini-rock opera to his masterpiece, Tommy, and from his enduring Lifehouse project through to his current musical endeavour, there has always been a Purcellian presence.

Broadcast on BBC Radio 4 on Tuesday, 27th October 2009."

Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Sunday, 30 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know if it works outside of Denmark, but the public radio station records a lot of classical concerts and puts them on their website. Some of it is quite interesting:

The New Nørgård-symphony. No 8

Frederik B, Monday, 31 December 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link

looking forward to hearing the nørgård

the memoirs of gaydrian (clouds), Monday, 31 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link

V. exciting!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 31 December 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah psyched for the Norgard too. Hope I get a chance to listen with all the family around the place.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 December 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link

happy new year from the previn household!

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/734972_10151987355982137_1524864941_n.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 31 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

I like a lot of Previn/LSO/EMI recordings from the 70s. They still have that sound I love so much in the 60s decca Monteux/LSO sides.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

also 60s/70s classical sleeves get me emotionally so bad

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

full disclosure, after staring too long at the Ansermet Le Sacre du Printemps sleeve, I went wilding in Central Park.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Chaya Czernowin - this disc paints a ruinious landscape at times. Sahaf is the highlight, in part due to its set-up for - among other other things - guitar and sax. You often think she is not only making use of vast skyscraper- type 'scapes but blowing it out further into the universe for thousands of light years. Its only now that this becomes visible.

Another day, another Finnissy: Kagami-Gishi for flute and harp makes use of his time spent studying gagaku music. Reading an article on him and his interests in folk culture are vast: aboriginal music, Sicilian and Eastern European folk and so on, but he always stamps his own personality on whatever he is interested in. You could say 'Finnissy music' but I feel like I want to find out more and listen to the sources. So there.

Ferneyhough - La Terre Est un Homme. This is a radio recording from a concert that took place about two years ago. Everyone re-discovered this neglected orchestral piece. I can sorta see it...

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Bernd Alois Zimmermann - Orchestral sketches. Implies bitzy and all, but they are substantial.

Heinz Holliger - Pneuma.

How are people doing w/Dillon? Not worrying at all about how it fits, a piece here and there...Introitus is a cracker.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 13:10 (eleven years ago) link

Have been hitting these hard this past few days:

http://www.thomasmusic.net.au/images/products/HMC90181820.jpg

https://d3mfbaa198drag.cloudfront.net/assets/products/346222/large/346222.jpg

Plus I watched Tony Palmer's great 'O Thou Transcendent' - a portrait of Ralph Vaughan Williams featuring some sterling performances and a great deal of background info previously unknown to me.

Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

Starting 2013 listening to Mahler's Symphony No. 6. I bought the 2009 box of Leonard Bernstein-conducted Mahler symphonies a while back, and put one in whenever I've got an hour-plus to kill (which isn't often).

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

I've decided to start the new year with as much Conlon Nancarrow as I can listen to at one time. The first cut on NHK’Koyxeи's Dance Classics Vol.1 had hints of Conlon Nancarrow, which is what started the gears in motion that led to this. I decided it might be a good time to listen through all his player piano music.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Have started what may turn into a full-chronology Alban Berg listening project (he being one of those composers with manageable output), with opp. 1-3 under my belt so far. Still struggling a bit to get much sense out of the songs, but the piano sonata op. 1 and string quartet op. 3 are really unfolding for me after some concentrated listening. If anyone has recommendations for specific recordings of these things, or for any of what lies in the future (Altenberg-Lieder, 4 clarinet/piano pieces, 3 orchestral pieces, Wozzeck, chamber concerto, Lyric Suite, Lulu (+suite), violin concerto), I'd love to hear them!

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

(for the operas, DVD suggestions are of course particularly welcome!)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

pollini in the piano sonata iirc

i think james levine is good in the orchestral music

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

that is a really good idea by the way

who else has a relatively small oeuvre, if not of webern or varese level concision

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link

debussy, ravel

the memoirs of gaydrian (clouds), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

debussy is smallish, i think i am probaby familiar with 80% already

is there anyone from prior to the late 19th century?

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

ugh wikipedia has an 'impressionist music' infobox covering ravel debussy and satie

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

Not properly prior to the late 19th century I guess, but Borodin?

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

Jean Barraque (20th century) also has a v small oeuvre.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Ravel has a pretty miniscule but potent oeuruever.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds dirty.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, a sexual interpretation of that phrase is just very amusing to me for some reason. More immature for 2013.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

My first draft called Ravel's "whole" "small and tight."

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

there's a lurid anecdote involving jean barraqué and a stiletto heel which google, for better or worse, is refusing to reveal

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

stuff i've been playing and enjoying at the store:

debussy - string quartet in g minor/ravel - string quartet in f major - drolc quartet (dg)

prokofieff - lieutenant kije suite/scythian suite - chicago/abbado (dg) (appreciating warhorses that might show up in a beef or cotton commercial important in my opinion. hearing new things in old chestnuts. plus, this recording is awesome.)

brahms - piano quartet no.2 in a major/mahler - piano quartet movement - domus (virgin classics digital) (big fan of the 80's virgin classic metal mastered stuff on vinyl. they sound amazing.)

dvorak - complete piano trios - suk trio (supraphon)

francois joseph fetis - first symphony (for organ and orchestra) - orchestre symphonique de la rtbf (koch schwann) (never heard fetis before this - mid 19th century dude - and i have no idea what the orchestre symphonique de la rtbf is but again (with the euro-pressings) i love koch schwann vinyl from the 80's and will check out anything on the label and this is pleasant stuff.)

neilsen - symphony no.5/sibelius - symphony no.5 - knodrashin - concertgebouw orchestra (philips) (2 great tastes that go great together!)

brahms - piano quartet in g minor - gilels and dudes from the amadeus quartet (dg) (one of my faves. pieces and recordings.)

piano music of poulenc - gabriel tacchino (angel)

mozart - six quintets for string quartet and viola - budapest string quartet + one more dude (columbia) (i never listen to mozart but i'm feeling string-y these days and i can't remember if i've ever played this box set.)

piano concertos of muzio clementi and giovanni paisiello - felicja blumental/torino symphony orch (auditorium) (late 60's recording on small geeky u.k. label distributed in the states by the legendary record hunter store in nyc.)

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

(appreciating warhorses that might show up in a beef or cotton commercial important in my opinion. hearing new things in old chestnuts. plus, this recording is awesome.)

OTM. I have become a sort of defender of warhorses. Most of them are warhorses for a reason, and in most cases the overexposed/culturally saturated bit is no more than a couple of minutes long. Listen to the rest of Also Sprach Zarathustra! It's really fun!

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link


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