"Should we be suspicious of hipsters’ newfound love of R&B?" or "Race and indie music, part 4762"

hey remember king? did they go on to do anything

http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=176613.0

I think I asked them what they were up to on twitter once and they never replied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PPxEWkLiAs

on the album

I've been meaning to get around to that record all year :/

is good

That Myers bit = one of the most sensible things I've read about all this so far

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anybody driving faster is a maniac? – George Carlin

^^^^ I always think of this when I see "hipster" threads now

ha otm

anyone cooler than you is a hipster, anyone less cool is a square, makes sense

http://www.factmag.com/2013/03/04/vandross-prince-dangelo-theyre-saints-to-us-inc-talk-debut-album-no-world-and-stripping-the-blackness-out-of-rb/

You'd think the bros in The Inc. would know how to navigate these waters more delicately, but no, everything they say in this interview is a disaster

Do you think the term alt-R&B is actually a way of taking the blackness out of R&B?

AA: “Yeah, it’s just taking the struggle out. I mean, there’s been all kinds of struggle – there’s black struggle, there’s been some white struggle, there’s been struggle around the world, and when we make these, you know, tags… that’s struggle’s real, and we don’t want to keep perpetuating it. We’re not here to just jump in the ring.”

DA: “I think you’re right about taking the blackness out of it, and that’s the worst part about calling music that name. We make black music, you know, we’re not trying to say that we’re making something else. We’ve always been touched by that music and that’s what’s gotten us out of some places, that’s what’s liberated us and healed us. We’re making music for that same reason – we’re not making it to be played in a coffee shop where everyone’s all happy, this is not for that.”

AA: “We’ve never even said that we are R&B. We’re just making our music. R&B is pretty much dead, rock and roll is dead – the only thing that’s left from this stuff is spirit. So that’s how we see it, it’s like a spirit, and when we need to get in our zone we put on Reverend James Moore. They’re all like saints to us – Luther Vandross is like a saint, and Prince and D’Angelo.

“And then on the other side, the poetry side, I look at people like Billy Corgan and that white energy is powerful too.

And then on the other side, the poetry side, I look at people like Billy Corgan and that white energy is powerful too.

omg

You'd think the bros in The Inc. would know how to navigate these waters more delicately

lol why would you think this

their album is just so so so bad

the one based around the dodgy gulf war metaphor is probably the nadir

http://i.imgur.com/r1ZqMF7.gif

the white side, the poetry side, the corgan side

you'd really think they'd be on some blues hammer tip after all that and not just vapid simpering neutered twaddle like a sad can of flat coke zero half-heartedly handed to an anorexic model slipping into a fatal coma

vapid AND simpering

alt-r&b could kinda work as gulf war qua baudrillard/virilio come 2 think of it

young lamp n plax all feeling numb playing desert strike

CORGAN'S WHITE POWER MAJIK

anything can work if its done well.

The return of the Bald White Dude
Making sure whites groove

the album is actually pretty pleasant is the thing, in the most frightfully enervated way

matt and luke goss form spacek covers band was how i correctly basically broke it down to an extent iirc

And then on the other side, the poetry side, I look at people like Billy Corgan and that white energy is powerful too.

omg

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literally had to rub my eyes and roll back away from the screen

so speechless at that part (the whole thing)

I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential, but I think I'm going to go back to the core, the white music. Billy Corgan.

http://grungereport.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/billyhands.jpg

lol xp

i have to say it but saying "Billy Corgan and that white energy is powerful" is the only thing with a kernel of insight in the whole interview, the rest is incoherent if not contradictory

what clowns

i wdn't say "insight", i'd maybe go so far as "makes grammatical sense"

AA: “When Voodoo came out, if you read the reviews, people were like, ‘he’s mumbling’! You know, a good example is Terence Malick, the filmmaker. His movies to us are like divine breaths on film, but a lot of people really struggle with the lack of dialogue. Or Nirvana, that’s a great example – if you read the lyrics to ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ it’s like, what did he say? None of the teenagers knew what the hell he was saying – it’s ultimately a feeling.

“But the lyrics are really fundamental.

Wow. These guys aren't the smartest are they? And that track on the link sounds like a first demo for something someone might be thinking of finishing off one day when they can be bothered.

i'll stick with the last Britney album. my kinda nu-r&b.

"Music today is tribal – not tribal as in an aesthetic, but like we’re all part of a tribe. "

whole interview reads like an onion article

otm

White power is energetic too

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/339500000_9bfce4ef90.jpg