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Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

I responded by saying that white people wear saris and kimonos and all kinds of other shit from other cultures all the time-- and at appropriate public events, for that matter.

you realize this shit has been getting called out as racist for decades tho right

passive-aggressive dn change (zachlyon), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

um, not to suggest that du-rags are inherently funny, derp derp

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

you realize this shit has been getting called out as racist for decades tho right

sure. everything involving multiple cultures is called racist by somebody somewhere.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

and I guess that kind of points out the ridiculousness of a thread called "is it racist", since it's fairly obvious that there isn't ever a straightforward answer to the question.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

dü-rag

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

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Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

poliopolice, huskers or mats?

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

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the late great, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

mats no question

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

nothing against the gays and their gay fashion or whatever

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

:-}

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

would it be racist if i dressed like bob mould?

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

mats no question

OUT

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

So where do dreadlocks come into this? White w/dreads = always racist?

nickn, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

are those rolling hip-hop threads racist?

Mordy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

i find it really, really, really hard to agree to the idea that that some group can/should 'own' anything, whether it be a philosophy, word, fashion or anything else.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

it understand that many signifiers and texts are connected to systematic oppression but it seems silly to me that someone can have full rights to dreadlocks.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

it = i

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's pretty okay to wear hats and such

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

I sometimes use crutches because I like Itzhak Perlman.

Is this polioist?

mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

imo dreads actually have a better claim to being culturally bound than the do-rag, which has been worn by people around the world for ages 'n' ages

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

You have dreadlocks

― Dom Passantino

buzza, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

dreads also have a better chance of being super nasty because you can't throw them in the washing machine

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link

at least not without screaming

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link

or you rig up some sort of James O. Incandenza situation w/ it and jam yr head inside

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Thursday, 27 December 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link

My white Swedish ex-gf got dreads after we'd been dating a few weeks and it was almost a deal-breaker. She'd lived in South Africa for about a year prior to that and almost exclusively dated Iraqis before me, so I felt uncomfortable trying to judge the racial aspect of her hair, having grown up in the American south. I did think it looked stupid and hated how it would scratch my face whenever I tried to spoon her, though.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 05:14 (eleven years ago) link

man I used to get crushed out on women with dreads. RIP the 90s

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Yep, remember that myself. Never actually liked the look per se, but something about those drug-connected, sexually liberated space cases always got me too.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

'something'

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

how do you reconcile "I never liked the look" with "always got to me"

like, I've never been sexually attracted to camel toe and can't think of a single instance where I was like "that looks terrible but man I wish I could get me some of that toe" so I am curious how you navigated this apparent contradiction

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link

Darragh already got it on target, IMO

mh, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

1. Drug-connected women.
2. Sexually-liberated women.
3. New-agey space cases.
4. Has dreadlocks.

A venn diagram of the aforementioned clusters would reveal that the circle depicting "has dreadlocks" is almost entirely subsumed within the overlap of circles 1, 2, and 3. While I don't like dreadlocks, they are highly correlated to the other attributes, and the most visually obvious symbol that the subject possesses the other (more important) desired attributes.

Poliopolice, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

in other words, 'something'

Poliopolice, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

are you new-agey, polio police?

how's life, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

"that looks terrible but man I wish I could get me some of that toe"

underrated display name ideas I have wimped out on

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

is associating a black hairstyle with drug use and casual sex... racist?

fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

>are you new-agey, polio police?

I wouldn't say so, but I do find these amorphous new-agey aesthetics and philosophies fascinating.

Poliopolice, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

haha "aesthetics and philosophies" <-> "sex and drugs".

s.clover, Friday, 28 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

That is funny, but in a way, sex+drugs genuinely is more reductive than it should be. New-agey subcultures tend to be about openness to experiences, many of which are cultural taboos. They have defiant attitudes towards work, sex, drugs, fashion, science, material want, etc. To me there's something very appealing about the countercultural desire to escape from the trappings of modern society; sex and drugs are only one facet of that.

Poliopolice, Friday, 28 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

dude New Age is literally a shelf at Barnes & Noble, be more specific about what you're talking about if there's a point you have

autistic boy is surprisingly good at basketball (silby), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Sex and drugs as escapism has been going on since caveman times probably.

New Age (in modern times) is more or less your standard hip/defiant/rebellious subculture that has always existed in the pop culture era, only now with authenticity, spirituality, and deepness added in for good measure. There are some good ideas in it but im of the opinion that pretty much every subculture is a fashion statement first and foremost.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 December 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

y'all are talking about hippies y/n?

passion it person (La Lechera), Friday, 28 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

I had no point that I was trying to get anyone to sign off on, and was only answering questions that were being asked of me. I have no interest in justifying whatever inchoate views I have on "new age" anything, and couldn't care less that I'm not being specific about the exact Carlos Castaneda book or the sect of Reptilianism some high school druggy may or may not have joined/read/prayed to/sacrificed/engaged in tantric sex with/etc. Obviously, I'm talking about countercultural spirituality in its most generic form.

xxpost

Poliopolice, Friday, 28 December 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, im talking about hippies. Though nowadays you could probably find ppl in this subculture that say they HATE hippies. But they are hippies.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

calling DJP out that he's never seen a camel toe he wouldn't run up on, gtfo with this autobiographical total challop nonsense

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Friday, 28 December 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

polio police
arrest this man
his dreadlock hairdo
is running up on all the hot 'toe tonight

passive-aggressive dn change (zachlyon), Friday, 28 December 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

Rolling "this is poliopolice" thread

mh, Saturday, 29 December 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link


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