rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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the late great, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

is it racist to wear a du-rag if you're not black? having a disagreement with my gf about this.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

Only if you are an eastern european babushka.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Er, only if you are not. Also pirates, and gypsies, and circus folk can get away w it.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

not so much racist as questionable judgment

ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.etsy.com/listing/48554881/confederate-flag-do-rag

mh, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

not black, makes doo rag work

the late great, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

is it racist against grits and headbangers?

t_s (how's life), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

xposts

t_s (how's life), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

Anybody can wear a kerchief on their head!

Canaille help you (Michael White), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

A du-rag is not a kerchief though. In its current incarnation, it has its own design that couldn't be confused for anything else, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway gf says that it's uniquely a signifier of black culture and non-black people can't wear it without being inherently offensive. I responded by saying that white people wear saris and kimonos and all kinds of other shit from other cultures all the time-- and at appropriate public events, for that matter. Wearing a du-rang is not racist as far as I can see, though as someone else mentioned, it might be "questionable judgement", though even that I'm not really sure why. Do some people just get to "own" certain fashion statements?

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, you're taking about the sheer stocking-looking kind. Yeah, idk, white people don't really wear those. I don't know if it's offensive as much as it'd just look weird because you don't have black person hair?

mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link

I'm weirded out by du-rag. I always see do-rag, as in it keeps your hairdo in check

mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

:}

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

also wondering where these white people with kimonos are wandering around

mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

eminem fan forums have discussed this very issue

Mordy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link

also wondering where these white people with kimonos are wandering around
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md73v3Cyxm1ru41p9o1_500.jpg

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

I responded by saying that white people wear saris and kimonos and all kinds of other shit from other cultures all the time-- and at appropriate public events, for that matter.

Is this about you wearing a du-rag at an "appropriate public event?" Concert?

mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

duragpolice

buzza, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not going to run out and find pictures, but pretty sure well-known fashion houses have developed kimonos for consumption by the Western public.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, that's not the point. It doesn't really matter if white people wear kimonos or not. Is it racist for a white person to wear one?

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

history has taught us that it's cool for a white person to do pretty much anything they want to, don't fret about it imo

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

i'd say that white cultural tastemakers have done a lot to propagate (or steal, if you prefer) other cultures' texts/fashion/music/etc, there's always kind of a sheepishness about it too

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

My local pub is having a New Year's Eve curry night with Indian-themed fancy dress suggested. The barman agreed with me that this was a poor idea, but I didn't determine whether he agreed with my unspoken subtext that it was a bad idea because it was (at the very least highly likely to end up being) fucking racist wtf.

Sorry, as you were.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link

btw, just to clarify-- I do not nor do I plan to wear a du-rag in public. The discussion came up as a result of a friend's "wear-a-funny-hat" party.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.lib.unc.edu/rbc/keats/img/keats-hand-on-chin.jpg

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

I responded by saying that white people wear saris and kimonos and all kinds of other shit from other cultures all the time-- and at appropriate public events, for that matter.

you realize this shit has been getting called out as racist for decades tho right

passive-aggressive dn change (zachlyon), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

um, not to suggest that du-rags are inherently funny, derp derp

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

you realize this shit has been getting called out as racist for decades tho right

sure. everything involving multiple cultures is called racist by somebody somewhere.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link

and I guess that kind of points out the ridiculousness of a thread called "is it racist", since it's fairly obvious that there isn't ever a straightforward answer to the question.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

dü-rag

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6220/6364635019_1aed588e3e_z.jpg

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

poliopolice, huskers or mats?

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

keffiya.jpg

the late great, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

mats no question

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

nothing against the gays and their gay fashion or whatever

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

:-}

乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

would it be racist if i dressed like bob mould?

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

mats no question

OUT

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link

So where do dreadlocks come into this? White w/dreads = always racist?

nickn, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link

are those rolling hip-hop threads racist?

Mordy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

i find it really, really, really hard to agree to the idea that that some group can/should 'own' anything, whether it be a philosophy, word, fashion or anything else.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

it understand that many signifiers and texts are connected to systematic oppression but it seems silly to me that someone can have full rights to dreadlocks.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

it = i

Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's pretty okay to wear hats and such

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

I sometimes use crutches because I like Itzhak Perlman.

Is this polioist?

mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link

imo dreads actually have a better claim to being culturally bound than the do-rag, which has been worn by people around the world for ages 'n' ages

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

You have dreadlocks

― Dom Passantino

buzza, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

dreads also have a better chance of being super nasty because you can't throw them in the washing machine

GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link


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