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― the late great, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
is it racist to wear a du-rag if you're not black? having a disagreement with my gf about this.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Only if you are an eastern european babushka.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Er, only if you are not. Also pirates, and gypsies, and circus folk can get away w it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
not so much racist as questionable judgment
― ILX is not a non-profit — we are just not profitable (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.etsy.com/listing/48554881/confederate-flag-do-rag
― mh, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
not black, makes doo rag work
― the late great, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
is it racist against grits and headbangers?
― t_s (how's life), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
xposts
― t_s (how's life), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Anybody can wear a kerchief on their head!
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
A du-rag is not a kerchief though. In its current incarnation, it has its own design that couldn't be confused for anything else, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway gf says that it's uniquely a signifier of black culture and non-black people can't wear it without being inherently offensive. I responded by saying that white people wear saris and kimonos and all kinds of other shit from other cultures all the time-- and at appropriate public events, for that matter. Wearing a du-rang is not racist as far as I can see, though as someone else mentioned, it might be "questionable judgement", though even that I'm not really sure why. Do some people just get to "own" certain fashion statements?
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, you're taking about the sheer stocking-looking kind. Yeah, idk, white people don't really wear those. I don't know if it's offensive as much as it'd just look weird because you don't have black person hair?
― mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
I'm weirded out by du-rag. I always see do-rag, as in it keeps your hairdo in check
― mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
:}
― 乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
also wondering where these white people with kimonos are wandering around
― mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
eminem fan forums have discussed this very issue
― Mordy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
also wondering where these white people with kimonos are wandering aroundhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md73v3Cyxm1ru41p9o1_500.jpg
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
I responded by saying that white people wear saris and kimonos and all kinds of other shit from other cultures all the time-- and at appropriate public events, for that matter.
Is this about you wearing a du-rag at an "appropriate public event?" Concert?
― mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
duragpolice
― buzza, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not going to run out and find pictures, but pretty sure well-known fashion houses have developed kimonos for consumption by the Western public.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
anyway, that's not the point. It doesn't really matter if white people wear kimonos or not. Is it racist for a white person to wear one?
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
history has taught us that it's cool for a white person to do pretty much anything they want to, don't fret about it imo
― 乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
i'd say that white cultural tastemakers have done a lot to propagate (or steal, if you prefer) other cultures' texts/fashion/music/etc, there's always kind of a sheepishness about it too
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
My local pub is having a New Year's Eve curry night with Indian-themed fancy dress suggested. The barman agreed with me that this was a poor idea, but I didn't determine whether he agreed with my unspoken subtext that it was a bad idea because it was (at the very least highly likely to end up being) fucking racist wtf.
Sorry, as you were.
― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
btw, just to clarify-- I do not nor do I plan to wear a du-rag in public. The discussion came up as a result of a friend's "wear-a-funny-hat" party.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.lib.unc.edu/rbc/keats/img/keats-hand-on-chin.jpg
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
you realize this shit has been getting called out as racist for decades tho right
― passive-aggressive dn change (zachlyon), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
um, not to suggest that du-rags are inherently funny, derp derp
sure. everything involving multiple cultures is called racist by somebody somewhere.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
and I guess that kind of points out the ridiculousness of a thread called "is it racist", since it's fairly obvious that there isn't ever a straightforward answer to the question.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
dü-rag
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6220/6364635019_1aed588e3e_z.jpg
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
poliopolice, huskers or mats?
― 乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
keffiya.jpg
― the late great, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
mats no question
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
nothing against the gays and their gay fashion or whatever
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
:-}
― 乒乓, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
would it be racist if i dressed like bob mould?
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.boston.va.gov/images/OPT_man_sits_with_his_chin_on_his_hand.jpg
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
OUT
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
So where do dreadlocks come into this? White w/dreads = always racist?
― nickn, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
are those rolling hip-hop threads racist?
― Mordy, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
i find it really, really, really hard to agree to the idea that that some group can/should 'own' anything, whether it be a philosophy, word, fashion or anything else.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
it understand that many signifiers and texts are connected to systematic oppression but it seems silly to me that someone can have full rights to dreadlocks.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
it = i
i think it's pretty okay to wear hats and such
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
I sometimes use crutches because I like Itzhak Perlman.
Is this polioist?
― mh, Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
imo dreads actually have a better claim to being culturally bound than the do-rag, which has been worn by people around the world for ages 'n' ages
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
You have dreadlocks
― Dom Passantino
― buzza, Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
dreads also have a better chance of being super nasty because you can't throw them in the washing machine
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 27 December 2012 04:28 (eleven years ago) link