lolshe is in everythingshe and Helen Mirrin and Judi Dench are the Hecate of British cinema
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 07:51 (eleven years ago) link
never seen/heard the musical before. some of the big numbers were stirring, but i thought the second half of the movie was interminable. eponine, marius and cosette were all dumbass fucktards. russell crowe was alright in his scenes with other people, but his two big solos were real bad. he seemed like he was concentrating as hard as he could on getting the singing right, and as a consequence was really stiff. wolverine's got some pipes on him though, damn.
i dunno, maybe somethings wrong with me. the whole theater was sniffling during valjean's death scene, but i was just thinking about how bad i needed to piss. my attention wandered bigtime during a lot of the songs, including that one.
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
i agree with most of that, partic crowe's stiffness. thought all the acting was pretty good though
hathaway's "i dreamed a dream" was AMAZING, like i knew nothing about the story coming in and sobbed during it amazing
also agree the last third was too long. again i didn't know the story beforehand but i kind of expected it to end after
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
...valjean brought the young guy back to his daughter, though i can see how that might have been too disney-movie of an ending
also i kind of just loved the character of valjean and jackman's performance. his eyes did a lot of srs acting imo,
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
everyone dying at the end was pretty cool too
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
I understand that Sacha & Helena BC stink up the place but at least some Youtube searching on that matter has caused me to find Matt Lucas and Jenny Galloway at the 25th Anniversary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sD5hjYXD3E
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
oh they were fine for the comic relief they were intended to be, but they were probably in too many scenes
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
I have a soft spot for musicals -- I blame it on incessant listening to Oliver! when I was a kid -- and I like Les Mis more for its ridiculousness than in spite of it. My theater-geek girlfriend is similarly inclined, so we're looking forward to this. Not because it will be good in any serious sense. But, you know, shamelessness can be its own reward.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
i dig a lot of old movie musicals, but broadway-style musicals never did it for me
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
This is one of those movies that turns my FB feed into a true tale of two cities.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
movie musicals absolutely need abstract body patterns and lots and lots of fountains
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
jackman is pretty much 100% why I want to see this - love any opportunity to see him singand I'm v curious about Hathaway
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
who is responsible for trading in dancing for belting out hallmark cards, and can we flog that person
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Hathaway as Javert?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
jackman's real good in this. if he wins an oscar it'd be well deserved. same with hathaway
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
this movie shouldve had the lyrics onscreen the whole time with that little ball bouncing on each syllable
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
otm. I guess Fosse was the last gasp of great Broadway dance? Or I guess, Twyla Tharp has had some big shows. But none of those have been made into movies (and I haven't seen any of them, so I don't know if they were any good).
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
hathaway didn't have much screen time at all but she was wonderful, yeah. jackman should get some recognition for his part i think
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
Jackman only seemed great because he played most of his scenes opposite Russell Crowe.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
Like the Twilight movies, I'm only happy that this exists for the hilarious Walter Chaw review:
http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2012/12/les-misérables-2012.html
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
the only one who makes real emotion of the melodrama of cramped source material that has the audacity to not only introduce a new generation of characters post intermission, but also ask us to invest in a love triangle between three pretty little ciphers chirping their sorta-pretty little songs.
yeah, exactly. the part where it turns into a teen movie is when i started checking out mentally, and spent the rest of the movie counting the pores on the actors faces
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
I cannot emphasize enough, again, how horrible Crowe is in this
― Simon H., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
I really liked Crowe as Javert. I feel so lonely.
― JRN, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Doubt I'll be seeing this. Saw it on Broadway, didn't even love it THEN, and well...
But, ain't gonna hate on those who did like it. I'm just more miffed at the people who are writing scathing nastygrams on their FB Wall to people who had the audacity to criticize the film. One FB friend boasted that Crowe could "wipe his ass" with your paycheck.
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
(This criticism coming from a guy who...had yet to see the film).
― NINO CARTER, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
can't find much to disagree with in that review - way too many closeups, at least 30 minutes too long, confused politics, and crowe's singing was pretty bad. yet...i liked it - am i just a sap? the whole thing is just so warm, deliberate, and kind-hearted. kind of think you have to be a real grump to not have felt it at times
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
Awwww crypto I love your DN <3
I like that the musical keeps the Balzacian epic quality of the book. It allows minor characters to have big lead songs. In contrast to, say, the latter day revisions of a lot of 19th c source material where the central romance is emphasized at the expense of setting and backstory (modern cinematic adaptations of Great Expectations, Jane Eyre for example)
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 27 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
way too many closeups, at least 30 minutes too long, confused politics.......yet...i liked it - am i just a sap?
i've been reading and re-reading this and i've decided this movie is just .... lyfe
― banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 December 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link
aw sentimental k3v
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link
uh h4a these used to be basically the same thing until culture died.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
Crowe's rock background is kind of obvious in this clip - dude stands like they're singing Evanescence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fB6LIsntpg
― da croupier, Thursday, 27 December 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeahhhhh i noticed that haha
― k3vin k., Thursday, 27 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
for all the shit gerard butler got for his singing in phantom, crowe was way, way worse
― k3vin k., Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
I saw this, it was pretty OK. Considering how lame some of the songs are ("Bring him home", "Empty chairs") they did a great job, both actors and performers
I'm willing to admit that the 3 minutes of Anne Hathaway singing "I dreamed a dream" was the most moved I've ever been by anything since prepubescence
I liked also how gross it was, from Javert breaking his back as he fell to the snot and eye-boogers and shit and thing, it kept the pathos in the Real Zone
The whole second half has some dreadful songs though, some of them so bad I'd forgotten they'd existed
Russell Crowe wasn't as bad as people say, he just sings like a trombone. His death scene was good
― capital in ruins, thousands dead (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
ah now cmon, spoilers
― banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Friday, 28 December 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ "sings like a trombone"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 December 2012 06:18 (eleven years ago) link
His last sound going over should have been the "wah-wah-wahhhhhh" noise.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 December 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link
this fucking owned
― k3vin k
http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/kevin-keller2__oPt.jpg
― buzza, Friday, 28 December 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/531902_10151404089977783_1793876027_n.jpg
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
Denby opens a can of whupass, has rehab suggestions for you Les Shizzies:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/01/theres-still-hope-for-people-who-love-les-miserables.html
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
Wherever Valjean goes, Javert shows up; he’s everywhere at once, like the Joker in “The Dark Knight,” who was at least intended to be a fanciful creation.
Would like to shake the hands of whoever stuck a "Based on true events" on Denby's copy of the novel.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 5 January 2013 09:31 (eleven years ago) link
this was much, much better than i'd hoped for. crowe did struggle for air but tbh javert's just an awful part, even sung well, it's just continuous tuba notes going nowhere.
Hathaway, jackman and guy playing marius were all great. Bring him home was terrible tho, disappointing considering he did well with everything else asked of him.
Cosette sang like a cartoon mouse. HBC's singing was awful.
Whole thing looked amazing.
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
the songs are all really boring and awful songs even for a broadway-ish joint except for "i dreamed a dream" which is amazing, it's weird.
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
well i love 'bring him home' and the one or two ensembles bringing all the motifs together can be great too (lacked something in this tho, maybe too much focus on individual vocals i think)
― let's bitch about our stupid, annoying co-ilxors (darraghmac), Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, you liked it but you hate the music? Not a dig, just wondering how you can enjoy a completely sung-thru musical and hate all of teh songs!
― NINO CARTER, Saturday, 12 January 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
I agree that "Dream" outshines everything else, but "On my own", "Master of the house", "Do you hear the people sing?", "Castle on a cloud", and to a lesser extent "Look down", "Bring him home" and "Empty Chairs" are all good-to-great megamusical fare
And "Red & Black" is the best example of megamusical recitative that I've heard
But yeah, then there are five or six other songs that suuuuck
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Re: "bad singing" I liked it, actually, every actor had their own kind of not-great singing style and it a) contributed to the snot and shit stylization of the whole thing, and b) it made every singer so individual and different. I actually was left the least moved by the "pro" stage singer (Eponine) just 'cause she seemed so out of place in an otherwise filthy and fucked up production
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Like when Amanda Seyfried started singing and she sounds like a theremin I was like of course girl sounds like a theremin
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
Biggest head scratcher I've read about is that Sacha Baron Cohen sings/acts with an exaggerated French accent, despite the fact that the no one else in the movie has a French accent, even though it is set in France.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
Because Thernardier is a racist, obv
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link